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    it's a digital coup

    y'all really down with this, Trumpies?

    We are in the midst of a politicalcoup that, if successful, would forever change the nature of American government. It is not taking place in the streets. There is no martial law. It is taking place cubicle by cubicle in federal agencies and in the mundane automation of bureaucracy. The rationale is based on a productivity myth that the goal of bureaucracy is merely what it produces (services, information, governance) and can be isolated from the process through which democracy achieves those ends: debate, deliberation, and consensus.


    AI then becomes a tool for replacing politics. The Trump administration frames generative AI as a remedy to "government waste." However, what it seeks to automate is not paperwork but democratic decision-making. Elon Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) are banking on a popular but false delusion that word prediction technologies make meaningful inferences about the world. They are using it to sidestep Congressional oversight of the budget, which is, Cons utionally, the allotment of resources to government programs through representative politics.

    While discussing an AI coup may seem conspiratorial or paranoid, it's banal. In contrast to Musk and his acolytes' ongoing claims of "existential risk," which envision AI taking over the world through brute force, an AI coup rises from collective decisions about how much power we hand to machines. It is political offloading, shifting the messy work of winning political debates to the false authority of machine analytics. It's a way of displacing the collective decision-making at the core of representative politics.
    Amidst the chaos in Washington, Silicon Valley firms will continue to build their case that they are the answer. We can expect another industry announcement of a radical new capability for AI in the near future. OpenAI may once again claim to reach PhD-level intelligence (as in September 2024 and again in January 2025), or DOGE may launch a new chatbot trained on government data.


    After months of ridiculing the civil service for inep ude and shouting about the woke politics of academic research ins utions, a new delusion about word prediction will likely emerge from any such announcement. In that story, the beneficiaries of the AI coup will announce the perfect solution to government failures and their reviled commitment to diversity, equity, and inclusion in science. The solution will be a "centralized data repository" hooked to a chatbot and a suite of promises.


    Shedd described such a project on tape at a meeting with his new team:

    Because as we decrease the overall size of the federal government, as you all know, there's still a ton of programs that need to exist, which is this huge opportunity for technology and automation to come in full force, which is why you all are so key and critical to this next phase…It is the time to build because, as I was saying, the demand for technical services is going to go through the roof.

    To serve its purpose, any generative AI deployed here wouldn't have to be good at making decisions or even showcase any new capacities at all. It merely has to be considered a plausible compe or to human decision-making long enough to dislodge the existing human decision-makers in civil service, workers who embody the ins ution's values and mission. Once replaced, the human knowledge that produces the ins ution will be lost.

    Once the employees are terminated, the ins ution is no longer itself. Trump and Musk can shift it to any purpose inscribed into the chatbot's system prompt, directing the kind of output it is allowed to provide a user.
    https://www.techpolicy.press/anatomy-of-an-ai-coup/

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    "To replace the existing civil service, DOGE associates have been feeding vast troves of government records and databases into artificial intelligence tools, looking for unwanted federal programs and trying to determine which human work can be replaced by AI, machine-learning tools or even robots."
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...ge-musk-goals/

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    Come you lefties
    Get out there
    In the streets
    Burn something or shoot someone
    Do something

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    https://x.com/DMichaelTripi/status/1888598394127434076


    NEW: President Trump orders Elon Musk to hire 45 new DOGE agents to audit FBI, CIA, Pentagon.

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    Just learned that the social security database is not de-duplicated, meaning you can have the same SSN many times over, which further enables MASSIVE FRAUD!!

    Your tax dollars are being stolen.

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1888484555092312466
    Musk with the "look over here" while he's robbing over there

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    Come you lefties
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    What's wrong with you?

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    If it wasn't already, I'm certain now that handwaving has been canonized into the Republican playbook, being taught to young Republicans in the republican class.

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    What's wrong with you?
    impatient for political violence to break out

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    what's your take on what you just posted, Silent Bob?

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    what's your take on what you just posted, Silent Bob?
    His "takes" are plastic and depend solely upon 1) what Fox news and X has told him to say and/or 2) what you say, IE he will be a contrarian and say something the opposite or as close as he can.

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    there's no gravy train like the Musk gravy train

    Tesla gets beaucoup tax credits from Uncle Sam

    SpaceX gets about 35% of its funding from the USG, IIRC

    Tesla paid $0 in federal income tax last year.
    2022: $0
    2021: $0
    2020: $0
    2019: $0
    2018: $0

    Tesla reported $6.7 billion in profit in those years.

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    and now he's angling for the bid to replace the civil service with machines

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    After DOGE is done
    Move on and do City of Austin
    Them corrupt bas s need to be exposed too

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    After DOGE is done
    Move on and do City of Austin
    Them corrupt bas s need to be exposed too
    Is Elon going to audit himself?

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    No
    But Elon is not beyond reproach

    In fact you screaming lefties should go for that

    Get er done

    I am all for that

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    Just be careful what you might get

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    Just be careful what you might get
    what do you think is going to happen?

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    From the Elon audit?

    Maybe he is clean and runs a well oiled machine that shames NASA?

    Please clarify your question

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    and now he's angling for the bid to replace the civil service with machines
    boiled down, El0n is sacking and vandalizing the US government -- our republic -- to the advantage of the billionaires, corporations and large propertied interests who basically fund elections now

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    part of the dramatic tension here, is that El0n wields mighty discretion and is breathtakingly dumb at the same time

    Trump also has this quality
    Last edited by Winehole23; 02-09-2025 at 12:23 PM.

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    From the Elon audit?

    Maybe he is clean and runs a well oiled machine that shames NASA?

    Please clarify your question
    Lol "maybe he is clean"

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    Also lol "runs a well oiled machine"

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    Dude catches rocket ship like you catch Kamala farts

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