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Rather have Vassell over asswipe Keldon. Salaries almost the same
Dream scenerio Flagg and Baily. But if things go where they are trending I like Rasheer Flemming and Asa Newell just fine.
Rather have Vassell over asswipe Keldon. Salaries almost the same
the weird thing is that if they are looking at next season to start winning you'd want to play the Fox/Castle back court to see how they mesh and what you need to add around them and Wemby. But instead they play Fox/CP3 and play Castle 19 minutes. So next season you have to figure out the back court pairing for the future after adding pieces in the offseason. Makes zero sense, but Spurs gonna Spurs. We can't hurt CP3s feelings
It would have played a part. I know it's not the exact reason he left (LA was a big drawcard), but he and his uncle probably thought he could be a megastar and that SA was holding back his numbers a little bit. Plus them being a small market didn't help. I think it would have played a part.
Exactly, it's like they don't know the trade deadline is over. There's no need to showcase those other guys anymore. If they want to stay here, the need to prove it with whatever role is left for them. Not give them extra minutes over a better player that has sky high potential compared to them. If they want to see if they can fit, just play them in whatever role/minutes is left.
Who is Plan B if Hurley says no? The guy I have always wanted if Pop was out of the picture was Ty Lue but he signed an extension through 2029 last summer.
A couple of long shots here,The coaching market is so dry, man. Which established NBA coach is ready to jump if you make a call right now? Terry Stotts (Warriors asst), James Borrego (Pels asst), Frank Vogel and Mike Brown
but maybe Pop has had quiet talks with Kerr about him taking over after his contract is up in 2026?
Second, if Quinn Snyder gets fired in Atlanta, that might be a candidate.
Just want to add that Kawhi reached out to a few star players. I think Butler was first, then Paul George. Butler supposedly declined teaming up. So Kawhi said to Clippers and Toronto that he wanted to play with Paul George and whoever trades for PG, he will sign for that team. Hence why OKC got such a huge haul for Paul George. It's pretty amazing that really last year SGA became a stud and yet that trade felt eons ago. Anyway, Toronto and Clippers went on a bidding war and Presti was using that as leverage to get the big haul. The rumour was that Toronto wasn't giving up 5 firsts and Clippers were only giving up 4. So it was possible that both had 4 first on the table. Then Balmer greenlit the 5th pick, the deal was made, and Leonard became a Clipper.
He does not have to defend the POA attack as much with the switching lineup off the bench and share usage with Wemby and Fox. He is thriving, this is the best 4 game stretch of his career right now. CP3 is the only one that can feed Wemby right now, Fox and Castle kinda alienates him.
last year we were talking about fox, with the fox champ vassell sochan wemby lineup in mind, so now that he's here, why are we not playing that extremely well balanced lineup? Why do we need to play with 2/3pgs and or with either a center or a pf and almost never both?
I now do remember that he told the Raptors to get PG (I forgot some of this until you bought it up), but they wouldn't give up what was required. I didn't know he reached out to Butler to team up, though.
I like that Castle is now closing games, primarily for his defense. To be fair, he is already ahead of Keldon in minutes. I like that Mitch played him 30+ minutes when Castle scored the game high. I think the minutes comes from CP3 save his legs the next half of the season. Vassell is a 2 and his minutes go to Champ, who I like defending on situations, but I agree Vassell needs to stand his defensive ground to develop.
For now I am okay with CP3 starting over Castle, as long as Castle gets to close.
I'd be okay with it if the starting lineup was functional, but it's not.
It just doesn't work.
Fox has to be the point of attack defender and he's not that great at it, uses way too much energy on defense when we need him to be the offensive engine.
CP0 has to be hidden on defense which usually means he's matched up with a wing and any decent wing can attack him as if he's not there. Not to mention we get murdered on the boards.
Devin is also pushed to wing position and overmatched no matter what, makes our rebounding even worse.
Wemby is left alone to battle against multiple players every single possession and then people start ing about him not putting enough effort in. Our team doesn't box out at all. And a lot of it is on their physical inability to do so.
-4, -15, -11, +1 is the rebounding differential since Fox got here.
Even the damn Wizards had 10 OREBs, this lineup just can't work, it's not even about hindering Castle's development, but everyone else's.
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but Castle's only playing 4-5 minutes in the 4th quarter the past two games. He needs to be playing a minimum of 8 minutes each 4th quarter. I don't like seeing him come in cold at the end of the game and expect him to make big plays. Really, he should be playing 8 minute a quarter, or 8 x 2 and 7 x 2, so 30 minutes total minimum.
18/4/3 on 50/41/77 in 8 games since Spurs got back from Paris.
4th quarter minutes:
Clippers: 9:34
Bucks: 4:56 (blowout win)
Heat: 5:04
Grizzlies: 5:09 (blowout loss)
Hawks: 5:54
Hornets: 12:00
Magic: 11:36
Wizards: 5:21
Basically if he's not taking the game over and playing too good to be taken out, he'll sit and make way for players who are more familiar with Spurs culture.
There is no good reason not to play Castle 32 to 36 minutes. Those would come at the expense of Vassell and Johnson.
Mitch has already basically said that he talks to Pop after every game, so I'm assuming a lot of these big decisions, like how much Chris Paul is going to play or not, or if he's going to start or not, it's not really up to Mitch. That's not fair to Mitch or the team, but that's the weird middle ground we're in right now. I can only assume there was a conversation about this at the trade deadline and Chris wanted to stay as long as he could keep playing, but that's just me guessing.
Why wouldn't the Spurs want Castle to get ROY? It's like they are messing with him.
Maybe they are shortening his minutes as a pre-All Star Weekend precaution? Is he making worse mistakes than other players?
This is not making much sense.
I will say that Castle seems to handle the adversity well and has responded well to coming off the bench. Just doesn't feel right that he's out playing Champagnie (where's he been lately?)KJ and even CP3 much of the time. Oh, come to think of it, Vassell, too.
If he's part of our future don't mess with him!!!!
Thanks. I wanted to check myself, but I am not sure where to get those stats from? Where do I go to find them myself?
I thought some of those games he was playing less than half the 4th quarter. Thanks for confirming what I was seeing. The games the team is struggling badly and he was taking over seem to be the ones he got the bigger 4th quarter minutes in, especially when everyone else is struggling and he's carrying them. That sucks.
This Chris Paul thing is starting to backfire with the Fox trade. I'm not liking what is going on at all. Castle seems to be getting squeezed out minutes for no good/valid reason at all.
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is gonna backfire for sure when we face bostons giant lineup next.Thanks. I wanted to check myself, but I am not sure where to get those stats from? Where do I go to find them myself?
I thought some of those games he was playing less than half the 4th quarter. Thanks for confirming what I was seeing. The games the team is struggling badly and he was taking over seem to be the ones he got the minutes in. That sucks. They seem to be giving him those bigger 4th quarter minutes if they're struggling and need him to carry them. This Chris Paul thing is starting to backfire with the Fox trade
https://www.basketball-reference.com/
It's already backfired every single game, who knows if we would've beaten Wizards if not for Wemby's barrage of 3s that gave us the early lead.is gonna backfire for sure when we face bostons giant lineup next.
Current starting lineup is intentional sabotage by whoever makes the decision.
the funny thing is not only is Mitch starting Fox and CP3 together, but he's also playing Castle as the lone PG out there instead of having one of them on the floor at all times. That results in more minutes of them playing together
Keldon hasn’t played 20 minutes since the beginning of the month. He looks to be slotted into the Tre Jones 15 mpg niche. He played 11 minutes last game, and frankly, we need his shooting most nights. Vassell has clearly turned a corner in his starting role, playing more like he did off the bench. Be glad Pop isn’t here and Stephon isn’t in Austin.
I think Vassell needs to stay in the SL but not because he's "turned a corner," he's still been inconsistent as . He needs to stay in there so we can see how he looks next to Fox and Wemby so we can decide on whether or not to ship him out this offseason.
It’s not the starting lineups, it’s the closing lineup. The difference in the Wizards game was that Wemby got his rest break earlier in the 4th, and played the last 7 minutes uninterrupted. We dropped down into a tie earlier than usual in the 4th, but had more time to recover. There was also a 4-5 minute stretch where no one shot except Wemby and Fox, which is exactly what should happen. We won breaking away.
This. It's insane that he's not staggering Fox/CP3 with Castle more.the funny thing is not only is Mitch starting Fox and CP3 together, but he's also playing Castle as the lone PG out there instead of having one of them on the floor at all times. That results in more minutes of them playing together
Which is better than Castle, or Fox as a Spur.
I think Vassell needs to stay in the SL but not because he's "turned a corner," he's still been inconsistent as . He needs to stay in there so we can see how he looks next to Fox and Wemby so we can decide on whether or not to ship him out this offseason.
Devin has shot 41% on 27 shots spread over 4 games since Fox arrived and he no longer needs to create his own 3s, so yeah, he’s turned a ing corner.
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