Mamu is shooting 40% from 3 this season on 50+ attempts so why not him instead of Keldon? That's almost double Devin's sample size in the Fox games so we should be able to say he's turned a corner as well right?
knew Chris Paul wouldn’t come off the bench due to ego. People said
but he came off the bench last year
. spurs don’t have Steph Curry and championship pedigree.
Mamu is shooting 40% from 3 this season on 50+ attempts so why not him instead of Keldon? That's almost double Devin's sample size in the Fox games so we should be able to say he's turned a corner as well right?
52 attempts in 42 games isn’t a sample size, it’s a rounding error. It’s not the same as Vassells nearly 7 per game since Fox got here. That being said, Mamu has been playing more recently, he’s just not a guard, and not interchangeable with the players we’ve been discussing. Do better.
Just absolutely preposterous that we "need Keldon out there for his shooting" and "Devin has turned a corner based on 4 games." You're better than that.![]()
Reading this topic and thinking about optimal rotations, I feel like a lot of these random combinations are throwing players off and it's not like most of them have high basketball IQ.
They just get lost in all the random Mitch throws out.
Ideal rotation would be way simpler. No chance of it happening, but still.
Point guard: Fox/CP3 - Mutually exclusive on the floor. One is always out there, never together.
Point of attack defender: Castle/Jeremy - One is always on the floor. Mutually exclusive when Wemby is playing, can play together when Jeremy is playing as a backup big.
Center: Wemby/backup - This is obviously the biggest issue, I guess Jeremy will have to do, but we really ed up by not getting a serious backup.
Shooters: Devin/Champ/Barnes - Any combination works, at least two should be on the floor at all times.
240 minutes available.
Wemby 33
Jeremy (backup C) 15
Fox 32
CP3 16
Castle 32
Jeremy (POA defender) 16
Devin/Champ/Barnes have 96 minutes available, adjust accordingly depending who has the hot hand, throw in some pity mintues for Keldon or Mamu if needed.
Would this be so hard to do?
Tbh, I wish we kept Tre instead of CP3, he'd be fine for those backup PG minutes.
Saying the Spurs need Keldon out there for shooting is like me saying I need a kidney stone to pee better tbh.
At this point with the play in basically slipping away after a month plus of pretty play, there's probably reason for the rest of the season to be experimental. Spurs should learn what they can about this collection of dudes I guess, but long term the truth is half of them have to go. The defense the Spurs run is just not it, there's no way a team with Wemby and Castle and Sochan should be this bad at defense. Like I don't expect them to be Boston but the current level of defense is abysmal night in and night out against the worst inthe league. I don't know how you could look at those results and not immediately scrap the current system.
Spurs desprately need a break from Pop's coaching style. I don't think coaches matter all that much but right now they are taking what should be our biggest strength and turning it into a huge weakness. It's incredible how bad we are defensively and I can't even blame the players at this point.
Preach Manny.
Pop and his sycophantic coaching staff still think it's 2007 and they just need to protect the paint at all costs (even with Wemby in there), while every other team is running plays, setting screens, etc. to get their shooters open threes. It's idiotic.
Vessal and Sochan BB IQ is that of a rock. I know people are high on Jeremy but he just does to many boneheaded things to play consistent at a high level wining basketball.
He's a good player to have as a high energy and effort player coming off the bench to stirr things yp but you won't get very far if you try to make him an important part to the main team makeup.
I agree on the Vassel part but now that he's being fed spot up shots off a collapsing defense it looks alot better for him. Sochan I disagree, I actually see him over thinking things and not flowing. I think not having a set role/position is causing part of the issue. Give the guy a somewhat consistent role and it'll help a lot.
typical ST. just last week, half this place had no problem with shipping castle off for Fox.
In my hypothetical make believe fantasy NBA, the Suns don’t want KJ at all and only agree to trade KD for Sochan, Vassell and 2 FRPs![]()
yeah, he's like a basketball midfielder right now.
In this 4 game sample, Vassell has gone 2-8 from 3 twice, and the other two games went 4-7 and 3-4. "Turned the corner"![]()
The numbers and percentage I quoted were accurate for the four game set. No one is dead consistent game over game. LDN was a 40% 3 ball shooter, and I used to joke that he alternated games of4-5 with games of0-5.
I'm excited for the looks Devin has been getting since Fox came on board. Let's give it a little more time before saying things like "he's turned the corner"
Likewise, let's not read too much into Jeremy making 4 of 6 3PA over the last 5 games.
Less Vassell more Castle for the playin. If we are not going to make the playin then lots of Vassell to raise his trade value.
Lol. I dig it.
I know this is not cool or trendy but Spurs just added a very significant piece to the puzzle, finding the right rotation takes time especially when you have an abundance of depth guards and lack of depth for pretty much everything else. It is what it is tho Spurs had a plan you get 2 vets to help the young grow and in particular CP3 with Castle then you get Fox pretty much out of nowhere half season. That's a complex equation for a variety of reasons.
Fact is more often than not, you bench Victor and here goes opponent run, that's frustrating as . You have no center back up, so you play 38 minutes with a 7'5 center and the rest of the time with no center at all
Absolutely, and thanks for raising this.
While I see some value in shutting Fox down and getting the surgery done if the play-in starts to slip away (especially if it means more ping pong balls), I think there is equal value in just getting maximum minutes of the guys we think are going to be here long term (Fox, Castle, Wemby for sure, Vassell and Sochan most likely) playing TOGETHER. That doesn't mean they all need to play at the same time in one lineup, but I want to see over a long stretch how Devin plays with Fox caving in the defense. I want to see how Castle and Fox fit together. I want to see Fox and Wemby develop chemistry, etc.
I'm curious what the recovery time for Fox's surgery realistically looks like. If it's something that can get done in May and he's ready to go by August either way... then there is no need to rush it. Then it just becomes a matter of how much you have to gain by soft tanking to close the season (my guess is that there probably won't be much).
You could have just typed reduce CP3 minutes to 16 minutes off the bench and saved yourself some typing. Everything pretty much just falls into place from there. KJ is not to be benched - 1) harms his trade value, 2) if that’s a winning move to bench him it costs us lottery balls and gains nothing.
Now I am not trying to defend KJ by any means, but they said on the broadcast he was 5th in the league in bench points.
You’re not gonna reduce Paul’s minutes cause you promised him big minutes in the off season.
promised him 11 million big things
I think we’ll see a reduced (managed) minutes in the 2nd half to prolong CP3 body, especially if they have plans of getting into play-in and beyond.
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