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The Spurs don't need an old-fashioned big like Edey (or Poeltl for that matter).
They need a mobile 6'10" guy like Asa Newell or Thomas Sorber.
Edey might just get in the way.
I was looking at the rookie rankings today and noticed Castle was 1st and Zach Edey 5th . We could’ve had Zach Edey be Wemby’s back up. We had the 8th pick, he was right there for the taking and instead we picked Dillingham just to trade him. I feel like we wasted that pick, sure you can say we used what we got from Minnesota to get Fox. But the Spurs still have a massive size problem that isn’t going to be fixed by Bismack Biyombo who is again an Undersized C at 6’8 . Bassey sucks so bad that even when he’s healthy he doesn’t really play which says a lot cause the spurs definitely need a back up C . We could’ve had two potential ROY on the roster and Zach Edey definitely would’ve helped with our size and defense. But I wouldn’t be shocked if the next person the spurs sign is an undersized Pf or guard smh . I just feel like this roster would be a lot better if Wemby had more size with him in the frontcourt, I get they wanna do positionless basketball, but we don’t have the right personnel for that at all and seeing Wemby play these past two weeks, he seems exhausted and gassed from being overwhelmed in the paint . I don’t think small ball works for this team at all !
Last edited by Mackmitchell94; 02-11-2025 at 06:12 PM.
The Spurs don't need an old-fashioned big like Edey (or Poeltl for that matter).
They need a mobile 6'10" guy like Asa Newell or Thomas Sorber.
Edey might just get in the way.
So get a backup big man at #8, don’t get the pick and swap from Minny, and no De’Aaron Fox? Because we don’t get Fox without that pick.
A big who can rebound and defend.Also hit outside shots when open.Same thing with a wing.Would like for us to target a 6.8
small foward who defends and rebounds and hits open shots.Hopefully we can get them this offseason in this draft.
well wemby is 7'5 and sochan is 6'8, so on average, our centers are 7'1
You really think that trade, between two motivated parties, would not have happened in some form or fashion if the Spurs didn't have that one 2031 pick?
Trades have fallen through for less. The deal may have happened, but instead of the unprotected 31 pick, they now INSISTED on Castle. That may have been the replacement piece. You’ve just traded Castle for Edey.
It’s just a colossally dumb idea to use a top 10 pick on a guy you project as a backup. He’ll never displace Vic, and he can’t play with him.
I think the Castle ship had sailed by that point. It would have just involved some other pick.
I agree with that.
And maybe they don’t do the deal without Castle or an unprotected pick from an organization that already seems to be imploding. Ant seems most unhappy. At the time of the trade, I valued that pick higher than any ATL pick. SA wasn’t trading either pick from this year. I would have rather sent the ATL 27 than the Minny 31, and maybe the Spurs tried that.
Is this a sengun thread or scola thread ?
Last edited by K...; 02-11-2025 at 09:07 PM.
Probably going to be more of a Dalton Knecht thread
I think it might have to do with this:
Pick 1: Get a 6’7-8” wing that can shoot.
Pick 2: Get a 6’9-10” PF
Pick 3: trade up in 2nd round by offloading an excess 2026 SRP for a legit size backup center like Kalkbrenner or Zikarsky.
Problems solved, congrats on a 2025 NBA draft threadjack.
Oh man, are people still ing about the #8 pick? First, Edey isn’t the type of player to fuss over, he’s big and slow, and he is someone who can be picked up in the mid teens in most drafts. Good touch around the basket, plays hard, but have severe limitations.
The 31 pick and 30 swap are decent returns for someone like that. There are a few suitable candidates to trade at the deadline who can help the spurs. For some reason the FO didn’t go for them. Point is, players who can fill that role are available for much cheaper than a lottery pick, or even a future swap and 1st.
I was ing about that #8 pick trade when it happened at the time, but that pick (and the draft asset we got from Minny for it) was instrumental in bringing in Fox so people need to quit their in'.
We basically turned the terrible contract of Zollins, failed prospect Cissoko, that #8 pick and a bunch of second round garbage into an All-Star caliber, young and seasoned player.
It would’ve happened, they just would’ve had to give up a more valuable pick.
just get a back up C in the 2nd round of this upcoming draft class, there are plenty.
An old story some of you might no know:
https://ziller.substack.com/p/the-ce...s-the-theories
The whole Spurs need a backup C remind me that story. Spurs need a backup C. It's obvious and everybody knows it. Spurs also have other bigger need like better forwards.My favorite Jerry West story has to do with Brian Cardinal’s inexplicable mid-level exception contract with the Grizzlies in the mid-2000s. The legend goes that in the summer of 2004, the Grizzlies’ notoriously goofy team owner Michael Heisley marched into Memphis GM West’s office and demanded to know why the Grizz hadn’t done anything yet in the offseason. West allegedly picked up the phone, called the agent for Cardinal (a 26-year-old white dude known as The Custodian, who’d had one decent season as a reserve for a terrible Warriors team, a definitional Purdue Boilermaker of the era), offered the mid-level exception (which was immediately accepted), hung up and asked Heisley, “There, you happy now?”
Spurs could easily get a high quality backup C by committing a lot of assets on it (in draft picks and/or salaries). It wouldn't make Spurs a good team but “There, you happy now?”.
Spurs have to be careful on the amount of assets they spend on a backup C. It is also way more important to have a good backup C in 1 or 2 years when the team should be good than now when Spurs aren't ready to compete.
I honestly think the spurs thought they had a chance at Fox way before he announced that he wouldn't resign with the kings . That's probably why they traded the 8th pick, just to get some possible additional picks in case a trade like that popped up somewhere down the road. That was obvious. Besides, two rookies on this team ? We have enough players that need more development. Sometimes teams get lucky from other teams misfortune. The spurs just took advantage of the situation several months in advance.
Biyombo will probably last 10 days if not less. That buys the spurs some time to scout the buyout market without actually committing to the first available big man. There is a huge talent gap behind Wemby and we need someone better than Biyombo . Get to the phones Brian Wright.
ain't nobody coming here. Even if we sign another back up big, Mitch gonna keep going small.
This here. It's one thing to acquire players, it's another what you're spending to get them (and pay or retain them).
Would it be cool to have a great young center coming off the bench? Sure. Would it be great to spend a mid-lottery pick on a guy who will exclusively come off the bench for however long he's in San Antonio? No, that's not good.
A backup for Wemby is a massive conundrum. You're looking for an agile, mobile player who can rebound and block shots who won't mind being a full-time bench player and who won't break the bank. To me, that's unlikely to be a lotto guy (they're owed money, they want to build a career, the pick is expensive to use on a back-up). To me, that's a veteran player or a flyer somewhere else.
I don't know who it is, though.
Same way the story of the emperor's new clothes has endured the ages.
Trading up in second round for Kalkbrenner is an obviously good backup C approach.
There's a size issue across the board. Wemby's enormously tall, but not strong enough to be a space eater in a small lineup. Harrison Barnes is decently tall, but not an elite rebounder. Castle is huge for a PG, but he's playing a bunch of SF minutes where doesn't have a size advantage.
Long term, Wemby getting stronger, a serious PF upgrade, and backup C should cover a lot. But there's no point spending all the assets now to become a 45 win team a year earlier.
They don’t have money and counting on profit sharing again. The ownership is cash poor. They want to move, they’ve already don’t want to throw money into a team that sucks balls.
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