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    the publication requirement in Section 685 specifically applies to messages sent under Sections 683 and 684

    Can you even read?
    Can you read?

    Who Has to Publish in the Federal Register?
    The Comptroller General (GAO). If the GAO finds that an impoundment (rescission or deferral) violates the ICA, it must report it to Congress and publish it in the Federal Register.
    This is a watchdog mechanism to ensure transparency after a violation has been found.

    The President is only required to notify Congress. The law does not require the President's notification to be published in the Federal Register.

    The Impoundment Control Act distinguishes between executive and legislative oversight roles.

    The President's role is to request recissions or deferrals by formally notifying Congress.

    The Congress's role (via the GAO) is to review whether the President is complying with the ICA and, if found to be in violation of the ICA - the GAO must then report THAT to Congress and publish in the Federal Register, 2 U.S.C. § 685(d).

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    Can you read?

    Who Has to Publish in the Federal Register?
    The Comptroller General (GAO). If the GAO finds that an impoundment (rescission or deferral) violates the ICA, it must report it to Congress and publish it in the Federal Register.
    This is a watchdog mechanism to ensure transparency after a violation has been found.

    The President is only required to notify Congress. The law does not require the President's notification to be published in the Federal Register.

    The Impoundment Control Act distinguishes between executive and legislative oversight roles.

    The President's role is to request recissions or deferrals by formally notifying Congress.

    The Congress's role (via the GAO) is to review whether the President is complying with the ICA and, if found to be in violation of the ICA - the GAO must then report THAT to Congress and publish in the Federal Register, 2 U.S.C. § 685(d).
    (d) Printing in Federal Register
    Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this le, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.


    Where does it say "nuh-uh"?

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    (d) Printing in Federal Register
    Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this le, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.


    Where does it say "nuh-uh"?
    Which is the responsibility of the GAO. You should be barking up their tree, Chump.

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    Which is the responsibility of the GAO. You should be barking up their tree, Chump.
    Your claim is the GAO is breaking the law?

    What's your conspiracy theory here?

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    Your claim is the GAO is breaking the law?

    What's your conspiracy theory here?
    Nope. Never said that.

    I've contended the notice doesn't have to be published and it's the GAO that tasked with publishing anything that is required to be published. It's also their responsibility to report (and publish in the Federal Register) any violation of the ICA. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's just facts.

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    Nope. Never said that.

    I've contended the notice doesn't have to be published
    And you were completely wrong.

    (d) Printing in Federal Register
    Any special message transmitted under section 683 or 684 of this le, and any supplementary message transmitted under subsection (c), shall be printed in the first issue of the Federal Register published after such transmittal.


    Either the GAO is violating the law for no reason or there is no special message.

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    If there's a special message from Trump following the provisions of the ICA out there, I'd love to see it and I'll admit all my complaining was for naught.

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    And, there's your problem. "Probably" isn't a legal position.
    One of your problems is "my understanding"

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    Historically there has been no secrecy at all with actions taken by the president under the au es of the ICA. Indeed, transparency is a requirement.

    I looked back to an example in the Federal Register for such an action by Diamond Bill Clinton in 1996 -- it literally says "CONTENTS OF SPECIAL MESSAGE" in the relevant section for the OMB.

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    Nope. Never said that.

    I've contended the notice doesn't have to be published and it's the GAO that tasked with publishing anything that is required to be published. It's also their responsibility to report (and publish in the Federal Register) any violation of the ICA. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's just facts.
    Looks like the process has started; at least some lip service.

    If the funding pause is eventually allowed to proceed by the court, it could face other resistance. The comptroller general, the head of the Government Accountability Office, must report to Congress when a withholding of federal funds has taken place and the executive branch fails to send its own notification, or “special message.” After the Office of Management and Budget on Monday ordered federal agencies to freeze federal spending on grants and loans, while allowing for an array of carve outs and exempting programs that provide direct assistance to individuals, a GAO official told Government Executive it is examining the manner.

    “GAO is examining the steps and information needed to determine if there are any Impoundment Act issues with respect to the administration’s actions to pause funds,” the official said, referring to the 1974 Impoundment Control Act. “GAO also has authority under the ICA to review potential impoundments.”


    https://www.govexec.com/oversight/20...-legal/402563/

    "just facts"

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    He was only off by 3700 miles. We should continue to have complete confidence in this man from southern Africa where Mozambique is.



    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1889430491914445045

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    "Some of the things I say will be incorrect..."

    No .

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    dude looks high as in the Oval Office



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    they're not crazy about him



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    Lol what does a guy with $400 billion want? $500 billion.

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    Because of what he calls the "woke mind virus," Elon claims he lost a son.

    It's not the money...

    "I vowed to destroy the woke mind virus after that, and we’re making some progress."

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    EFF lawsuit

    The Plaintiffs who have stepped forward to bring this lawsuit include individual federal employees as well as multiple employee unions, including the American Federation of Government Employees and the Association of Administrative Law Judges.

    This brazen ransacking of Americans’ sensitive data is unheard of in scale. With our co-counsel Lex Lumina, State Democracy Defenders Fund, and the Chandra Law Firm, we represent current and former federal employees whose privacy has been violated. We are asking the court for a temporary restraining order to immediately cease this dangerous and illegal intrusion. This massive trove of information includes private demographic data and work histories of essentially all current and former federal employees and contractors as well as federal job applicants. Access is restricted by the federal Privacy Act of 1974. Last week, a federal judge temporarily blocked DOGE from accessing a critical Treasury payment system under a similar lawsuit.
    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2025/02/eff-sues-doge-and-office-personnel-management-halt-ransacking-federal-data

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    Because of what he calls the "woke mind virus," Elon claims he lost a son.

    It's not the money...
    Is the son dead?

    Elon was probably playing too much video games.

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    Then he won't mind actual transparency, will he Darrin?

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    both yoni and Darrin highlighting the personal grievances of Elon and Trump.

    Divorced dads need their proxies.

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    The guy who donates starlink terminals to hurricane victims and rescues stranded astronauts is actually an evil Bond villain.

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