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yup coaching could be the problem.But this is something the players should already know.They are just lazy to me.
And it's not just a size issue. That's a major part of the equation obviously, but more importantly, guys on this team aren't boxing out when the opposition shoots the ball. We see it all the time with our Guards/Wings and even with our bigs where they just watch as the ball goes up instead of putting a body on a man. In a league where teams shoot more 3's than ever before and thus long rebounds are more prominent than ever before, this is unacceptable.
Spurs are currently allowing 12 Offensive Rebounds per game, tied with the Pelicans for the 4th most in the NBA. Only WAS, DAL, and PHX are (barely) worse. Numbers show that we're equally bad at home and on the road.
This is something that should be improved upon with time by our coaching staff, so why is it only getting worse..?
And to make matters worse, you have an interim HC who thinks playing 6'7 Jeremy Sochan and 6'8 Harrison Barnes at C against NBA 7-footers is a good idea. Make it make sense.
yup coaching could be the problem.But this is something the players should already know.They are just lazy to me.
The wildest part about this Box Out stat to me is that Charles Bassey has only played 346 minutes. Wemby has played 1,491 and Barnes has played 1,427.
Bassey the only mother er on our team who cares about rebounds.
So not only do we have low bbiq players, they're also lazy. Great...
It's how you know the coaches are absolute . As soon as a shot goes up, half the lineup leaks out looking for a fast break.
This team is garbage at shooting, no doubt. But their rebounding effort or lack thereof is the reason they've been trash this year.
The word is out about these lazy mofos. Opposing teams are crashing offensive board regularly now.
If you look at advanced stats for the league, boxing out stopped being a thing years ago. Maybe some teams are back at it, but it really went away about when the 3 became the "every trip down the floor" option.
That said, Devin Vassell is straight trash. Lower paid scrubs, you expect bad outings. DV is almost 1 good outing per 5 bad ones. He should be Luka'd by now.
We need a PF (at least 6'9) who can rebound next to Wemby. I like Barnes but he is a SF not a PF. I would actually try the following lineup: Fox, Castle, Barnes, Sochan and Wemby with Castle shooting better now.
I've been yelling this at clouds all season.
This team does not box out.
This team does not track rebounds.
This team does not grab the ball with two hands.
What they do is all kinda meander into the paint, and if the ball happens to come their way, they try to bat it out to someone to initiate the fast-break instead of just securing the ing rebound.
Half the time, this tap ends up going back to the opponent who are conveniently still positioned around the perimeter and ends up in an open shot.
We need to stop preaching pace and get back to some fundamentals here.
we need some nasty
The forum has been crying about the team needing shooters but we need rebounders way more
It's like we don't have a coach.
This is on wemby. Always allowing his man to box him out on the defensive end every fckn time.
Last edited by skin27; 02-12-2025 at 10:40 PM.
Porque no los dos?
It's more on the coaching staff and the IQ of players. It's basic- once the shot goes up, box your man out. Our low IQ players are always ball watching, that's why we often see the other team getting offensive rebounds
Great point! They play like pussies. The tallest guy is cherry picking all night long
Lots of people on this board think Jeremy is a center, too, when he is not close to power forward size.
I don't know why, but this team has not been able to rebound or defend the three since like 2018.
I keep seeing the coach pushing the pace, and the team moves faster than they have control skills for. This is just mimicking Pop who USED to only do that with skilled players. You cannot do that with a group of people who half wouldn't recognize each other in a restuarant at night.
League average dreb% is 74.9% with the best team being at 78.1% and the worst team at 72%.
Spurs with Wembanyama on the court: 74.9% dreb%
Spurs with Wembanyama off the court: 72.5% dreb%
Spurs are also at 74.9% dreb% with Bassey.
Stat wise, Spurs are an average defensive rebounding team when they have Wembanyama or Bassey at C and a bad one otherwise.
No NBA team have more than 1 player with 10 rebounds or more.
The Knicks have Towns with 13 I believe and Hart with 9.
i notice many times Wemby don’t go for the rebound and start running to the other side of the court.
The have an intelligence and talent issue as well.
Barnes is not a PF. Sochan is not a center.
We play small ball literally entire games then wonder why we have trouble rebounding.
Spurs have too many players who are minus rebounders for their position, especially at the wings, it’s how the current team is designed. Wemby is doing well but he rarely gets any help because of another need - floor spacing. Even decent rebounders like Sochan are forced to play a position up where they become minus as well.
The balance is impossible to get with this roster, it’s not about getting other guys who can rebound and insert them into the rotation, you need guys who can rebound, shoot and ideally defend too. All in one, not three different players doing a bit of each. They’ll have a lot of work in the offseason.
only explanation is they are tanking with midget starting lineup or they are dumb s. Maybe both.
been saying it. Last in the NBA in box outs. This is a coaching issue. If you can't drill it into your players that they have to box out their man, that's on the coach. Playing 60% of your roster a position up from their natural one just adds to the problem.
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