Game Thread: Spurs @ Celtics - Wed. 2/12/2025 -- 6:00pm CST (2:00am RIGA; 2:00pm Hawaii)

[Frenchfred]

And we are obviously nowhere near Boston when it comes to talent or team.

Does anybody have any further questions, or are we just gonna keep pointing out obvious things?

yep outside of Wemby, Fow who just arrived and Castle who just started to play better, the rest of the team is bad and coaching is not that great

[Knoxxx]

Even without "half their players", Boston is still way better than the Spurs. Imagine how the game would have gone if Brown and Holiday had played.

People need to accept the reality of where this team stands. Adding Wemby isn't just some miracle cure than makes us instant contenders.

Did you not see any games last season?

[Extra Stout]

truth.

that means that there is a lot to be done this summer

Sochan and Barnes are useful as reserves. Champagnie is a decent end-of-bench player.

That still leaves them six players short.

Moving Vassell and Johnson would be addition by subtraction.

[Knoxxx]

yep outside of Wemby, Fow who just arrived and Castle who just started to play better, the rest of the team is bad and coaching is not that great

We have 3 keepers and I don’t mind Barnes as an 4th and as much roster churn beyond that as possible is fine with me. I don’t think we drop then entire other 11 guys but changing out 5-6 would be a good start.

[tbdog]

Sochan and Barnes are useful as reserves. Champagnie is a decent end-of-bench player.

That still leaves them six players short.

Moving Vassell and Johnson would be addition by subtraction.

Sochan should be starting at not CP. Spurs desperately need someone working hard down low. But the spurs have no reliable big man, so Sochan has been asked to be backup.

[skin27]

Welp another L. Bye play in

[scott]

Sochan and Barnes are useful as reserves. Champagnie is a decent end-of-bench player.

That still leaves them six players short.

Moving Vassell and Johnson would be addition by subtraction.

Seems like the majority of this board has come around to what I've been saying for months. Main Character Dev is just an empty stats tank commander. Should have shipped him off to a team like Utah or Brooklyn to help them sell some seats because they've got their "up and coming star" who actually isn't even that. BKN actually kind of already has that guy in Cam Thomas, but another one couldn't hurt.

[baseline bum]

Boston was also down two starters.

Spurs could have won if they were down two starters (Paul+Vassell)

[scott]

Spurs could have won if they were down two starters (Paul+Vassell)

I hear ya, but honestly... Vassell doesn't really impact winning either way if he has a good game or a bad game, which is actually the worst thing you can be as a player: completely inconsequential. Having December Wemby would have been the difference. I hope post ASB we get the same post ASB Wemby we got last year. I want to see our Big 3 operating together on all cylinders even if the season is lost.

[Dex]

Did you not see any games last season?

I've watched every game Wemby has played with the Spurs, so I don't understand your question.

[Knoxxx]

I've watched every game Wemby has played with the Spurs, so I don't understand your question.

You closed out a reasonable sounding post with a thud saying Wemby isn’t going to turn the team around single handedly which was beyond obvious from the get go and entirety of last season. Like it was some amazing new revelation.

[Mugen]

Spurs could have won if they were down two starters (Paul+Vassell)

[sananspursfan21]

I don’t have access to any of the major networks, so I’m typically scrambling for a free trial when LP blacks me out. I didn’t really give a rip about this one and I’m glad I didn’t waste my efforts.

[Knoxxx]

So the recap was:

Changing of the guard from CP3 watch: Castle at least first man off the bench.

Vassell/Johnson: rotation players on their way out at first opportunity?

Sochan: why not more PT with the two above laying eggs?

[Knoxxx]

I don’t have access to any of the major networks, so I’m typically scrambling for a free trial when LP blacks me out. I didn’t really give a rip about this one and I’m glad I didn’t waste my efforts.

Amen, I had the channel and hardly bothered.

[Dex]

You closed out a reasonable sounding post with a thud saying Wemby isn’t going to turn the team around single handedly which was beyond obvious from the get go and entirety of last season. Like it was some amazing new revelation.

And you are trying to cherry-pick and ignoring the rest of the content of said post (and my previous comments and general posting history) to make a baseless statement to make yourself seem smart.

[tim_duncan_fan]

This is exemplary of a key part of the problem. Teams that don't take care of business during games should not be in this kind of mood:

They should look ready to commit murder since they are a losing team.

Not downtrodden. Not low-attidude. Not hopeless. But damned sure not silly either. It's annoying and stupid.


They should be moving as if they have a mission to execute. Kome would flame this entire roster, and he'd be right.





It's time to cut this kind of out. One can be outwardly, ostensibly determined and businesslike during work-hours and still be family.

[Donald Sterling.]

Generational talent, best prospect since Lebron and future goat got locked down by old man Horford

Back to reality after playing the 9 win Wizards

[Knoxxx]

And you are trying to cherry-pick and ignoring the rest of the content of said post (and my previous comments and general posting history) to make a baseless statement to make yourself seem smart.

Not really but you also said “half their players” as if that supported your point when emphasizing that was contradictory. If you really want me to nitpick. I was trying to be nice/diplomatic and merely question the worst part of your post.

[SpursBills]

Best places for Vassell (or at least places most likely to be willing to give up something useful for Vassell):
1. Milwaukee - terrible front office, desperate, want to keep Giannis, can potential sell them on having an "up-and-coming young star just having a down year" to pair with Dame in the backcourt and give more spacing for Giannis; can potentially ask for Portis if he picks up his player option +/- picks
2. Detroit - have lots of young guys who can't shoot (Ron Holland, Ausar Thompson), can pair with Cade in the backcourt and run a Cade-Vassell-Holland-Thompson-C lineup with equal parts shooting and rim pressure; would ask for Tobias Harris (expires in 2026) + picks

Best places to move Keldon Johnson:
...
...
Phoenix for Micic and Cody Martin and some second rounders? Don't know if I want to make Phoenix that much worse since Houston owns their picks.
Bulls? See if they're willing to do Vuc for a couple seconds. Otherwise Huerter is completely terrible but gets you off that salary a year earlier.

[daslicer]

This is exemplary of a key part of the problem. Teams that don't take care of business during games should not be in this kind of mood:

They should look ready to commit murder since they are a losing team.

Not downtrodden. Not low-attidude. Not hopeless. But damned sure not silly either. It's annoying and stupid.


They should be moving as if they have a mission to execute. Kome would flame this entire roster, and he'd be right.





It's time to cut this kind of out. One can be outwardly, ostensibly determined and businesslike during work-hours and still be family.

I hate it when people use the example of Kobe as having a serious business-like at ude. Kobe was by far the most selfish self-centered player I have seen in my life. He was a player who was concerned with his stats first and then winning second. He is the same guy who sabotaged Shaq in the '04 Finals simply because he wanted to get Finals MVP.

[Raven]

i'd say it was a predictable loss given the coaching.

[mystargtr34]

This is exemplary of a key part of the problem. Teams that don't take care of business during games should not be in this kind of mood:

They should look ready to commit murder since they are a losing team.

Not downtrodden. Not low-attidude. Not hopeless. But damned sure not silly either. It's annoying and stupid.


They should be moving as if they have a mission to execute. Kome would flame this entire roster, and he'd be right.





It's time to cut this kind of out. One can be outwardly, ostensibly determined and businesslike during work-hours and still be family.

That’s embarrassing. If I was B Wright I would cut both of those fools for the cringe alone.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I hate it when people use the example of Kobe as having a serious business-like at ude. Kobe was by far the most selfish self-centered player I have seen in my life. He was a player who was concerned with his stats first and then winning second. He is the same guy who sabotaged Shaq in the '04 Finals simply because he wanted to get Finals MVP.

You're not wrong. But at least he sent the message, one way or another, whether gracious or not, that things were not ok when they were not ok.

Our guys act like they would love having a Swaggy P around.


Edit: They are young, but still. Somebody get mad. And dead-serious.

[scott]

This is exemplary of a key part of the problem. Teams that don't take care of business during games should not be in this kind of mood:

They should look ready to commit murder since they are a losing team.

Not downtrodden. Not low-attidude. Not hopeless. But damned sure not silly either. It's annoying and stupid.


They should be moving as if they have a mission to execute. Kome would flame this entire roster, and he'd be right.





It's time to cut this kind of out. One can be outwardly, ostensibly determined and businesslike during work-hours and still be family.

Team needs some of this, in every way.