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    why do you have a grudge against immigrants?
    They broke they law and are being rewarded

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    Lol, no. There are Americans suffering in NC and LA.
    Is Trump not helping them?

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    They broke they law and are being rewarded
    so what?

    crossing a border is an administrative violation, not a crime

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    Americans over illegal immigrants is controversial in 2025? :
    not sure why any human being should have to feel superior to any other human being

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    if not, why not?

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    not sure why any human being should have to feel superior to any other human being
    Darrin REALLY needs to.

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    They aren't Americans?
    you hold that against people?

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    They broke they law and are being rewarded
    Oh you mean like Trump

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    only cost El0n $290 million























    ....so far

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    to hack the US Treasury, to take over OPM and the GSA.

    to cancel federal contracts and claw back payments already made.

    to be an executive-wide political commissar

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    (until the midterms, allegedly)

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    lol terminating the powers of Congress in a panic about dirty immigrants

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    and letting El0n hack the whole of US government

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    lol terminating the powers of Congress in a panic about dirty immigrants
    The old man understands the importance of owning the con this time after making President and ain't gonna waste nary second porkin' the pooch like he did last time he made President.

    Hit 'em with a blitzkrieg.

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    TV Dems say 2 things: “nobody voted for this” & everyone hates Elon. They have learned nothing. And they lie. Read ‘em & weep on
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    “Every AZ swing voter in our focus groups approve of Trump's actions — & most support Musk's efforts to slash government
    .” https://x.com/ScottJenningsKY/status...80812471701741

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    MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow saying President Trump gave Elon Musk a $400 million contract with Tesla, but it was Joe Biden. Did Maddow just open MSNBC up to same massive lawsuits?


    https://x.com/4Mischief/status/1890234319723278593

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    Q: “When Elon Musk met with Prime Minister Modi, did he do so as a CEO, or as a representative of us?”

    TRUMP: “I don’t know. I’ll ask him.”
    https://apnews.com/article/india-us-...b0542466c2a589

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    The Troller-in-Chief.

    These guys aren't even breaking a sweat.

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    The Troller-in-Chief.

    These guys aren't even breaking a sweat.
    how weird not to answer honestly

    is El0n a shadow Sec'y of State, or is he using his proximity to trump to feather his own nest?

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    how weird not to answer honestly

    is El0n a shadow Sec'y of State, or is he using his proximity to trump to feather his own nest?
    Direct answer?

    Trump should have probably told them to ask Musk. In the article, Trump indicated he didn't know.

    “I would imagine he met, possibly, because you know he’s running a company,” Trump told reporters.
    It could be because he's a fan of Modi's.

    Musk, who previously called himself a “fan of Modi,”...
    The press should ask him. It's not like Musk has been inaccessible to the press.

    I suspect he took advantage of being in the same place as Modi to either fanboy or talk business. Why? Is it you or Chump that's always saying, "What's your conspiracy theory?"

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    DOGE operative with a record of wasting billions in government

    Just the sort of person you'd want to loot Medicare


    Four and a half years ago, Department of Government Efficiency co-czar Brad Smith stumbled on a counterintuitive revelation: The most effective way to slash federal health care spending involved drastically raising Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement rates for hospital care.

    At the time, Smith was running something called the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation, an obscure off-the-books laboratory created by the Affordable Care Act for experimenting with “alternative payment models”—neoliberal for “larger sums with less accountability.” In its ten years of operation, CMMI had spent more than $10 billion testing various methods of tweaking reimbursement standards in (theoretical) hopes of improving health care outcomes for lower costs. They had worked with UnitedHealth, Aetna, Molina, and other insurers in 13 states to reward primary care physicians who administered more preventative care and collected more specific data on their patients. They’d worked with more than 100 hospitals and mega-practices to bundle payments for complex patients, in hopes of lowering the ultimate cost of treating chronic illnesses. CMMI had spent some $10 billion testing out dozens more schemes, nearly all of which subscribed to an ideology called “value-based care,” in which the central flaw of American health care is “volume-based” fee-for-service compensation schemes that incentivize “overutilization” of the health care system, and so the natural “solution” involves the government paying health care providers and various intermediaries to take steps designed to decrease said “utilization.”
    Value-based care grew especially important during the Obama years, because the ACA mandated that insurance companies spend a minimum of 85 percent of patients’ premium dollars on “care,” wiping out profit drivers like the mandatory insurance policies UnitedHealth sold to college students that often boasted medical loss ratios as low as 10 percent. Insurers in turn began to focus their energies around their highest-revenue patients: seniors with a lot of complex health issues who were enrolled in the private Medicare offerings known as Medicare Advantage. They would soon buy up the medical practices, home health agencies, and surgery centers that treated these patients, in a move that enabled them to at once “align incentives” (i.e., control more of the medical decisions they were paying for), park the excess profit margins they weren’t allowed to report on their insurance sides, and find more Medicare patients to convert to MA plans.
    Brad Smith was a value-based guy. He’d gotten in on the ground floor of the craze during the first term of the Obama administration, while helming the education reform foundation of former Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN), whose billionaire brother Tom Frist founded the hospital behemoth HCA, whose long history of unnecessary overtreatment of Medicare patients perhaps ironically gave birth to the value-based revolution. Together, the two had built a home health care business with more than 650 employees that they had just sold for $440 million to health insurer Anthem.

    Smith had been working as the chief operating officer of Anthem’s value-based business when he’d been tapped for the CMMI gig by one Adam Boehler, another value-based evangelist who often talked about how he wanted to “blow up” the “volume-based” ancien régime. Still, doctors, especially the types of doctors who complained about Obamacare and voted for Trump, hated value-based care, because it required spending way too much money on software and far more hours doing paperwork than the incentive payments could justify. Smith’s boss, Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) head Seema Verma, was value-based skeptical, and wanted to know whether CMMI’s programs were actually working as “intended.” So Smith ordered his staff to conduct a financial analysis of all 54 programs CMMI had bankrolled to test out the new approach to health care.
    The verdict was unambiguous: Value-based care was a bust. For two of its biggest programs, CMMI had spent $7 billion more than it had saved, just from compensating all the various intermediaries that had administered the trials. The reasons for this were twofold, say two individuals who worked on value-based care policy for the Obama administration: One, CMMI and CMS invariably outsourced the management of the trials to “venture capital or private equity firms or nonprofits where the CEO is making millions of dollars” that typically alienated and underpaid the clinicians they were ostensibly seeking to incentivize; and two, most of the policymakers involved were too preoccupied with “how they were going to monetize their expertise” to design programs that might actually save CMS money.
    https://prospect.org/health/2025-02-...loot-medicare/

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    Direct answer?

    Trump should have probably told them to ask Musk. In the article, Trump indicated he didn't know.



    It could be because he's a fan of Modi's.


    The press should ask him. It's not like Musk has been inaccessible to the press.

    I suspect he took advantage of being in the same place as Modi to either fanboy or talk business. Why? Is it you or Chump that's always saying, "What's your conspiracy theory?"
    that Trump is a sad sock puppet and other people are running the show now, more or less

    not sure he's all there anymore

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    Direct answer?

    Trump should have probably told them to ask Musk. In the article, Trump indicated he didn't know.



    It could be because he's a fan of Modi's.


    The press should ask him. It's not like Musk has been inaccessible to the press.

    I suspect he took advantage of being in the same place as Modi to either fanboy or talk business. Why? Is it you or Chump that's always saying, "What's your conspiracy theory?"
    Trump doesn't know what he or Elon is doing.

    Pretty simple.

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    MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow saying President Trump gave Elon Musk a $400 million contract with Tesla, but it was Joe Biden. Did Maddow just open MSNBC up to same massive lawsuits?


    https://x.com/4Mischief/status/1890234319723278593
    Why is a guy with a $400 million contract the one to look for waste?

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