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I only said right from the start Wemby had > or = POTENTIAL to TD. Y’all the ones who morphed it into a point in time comparison of the two. Wemby is still filling out, TD was grown into his frame when he came into the league. Wemby was a buck 98 naked as a rookie, a real beanpole.
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On the bench while the team loses? Thought it was pretty clear.
Robinson was an elite post player. He was perhaps the best face-up center of all time, which is why he didn't post up more. KG was an outstanding post player but he played in an era with Rasheed, Webber, and Duncan. There is no shame being the fourth best in that group. I have no opinion of Durant's post game, but I think Victor could end up superDurant with all-time levels of defense.
Yeah. David was built like an Adonis, but had chicken legs and small hips.
Tim had big legs and strong hips which helped him tremendously with Shaq's weight and force while not looking like a chiseled statue out of marble.
Edit: Tim also had such a strong feel/knowledge of leverage too to get low a bit on Shaq, rather letting him shoot jumpers than successfully backing him down.
Imma need Wemby to be able to 30+ minutes without needing an iron lung before I'd say he's better than Timmy tbh
Robinson, KG, didn't have great back to the basket games from what I saw of them growing up. I got to see all of KG's career and followed David's career closely starting in '94, so I saw him at his peak. David was a great athlete that could face up like you said and drive to the hoop in a way very few 7fters could, but I never really saw him back guys down in the post like Duncan did and that's not a knock-on David because very few guys could play a back to the basket game like Duncan could. It was very rare to see David do it. David's game was predicated from operating from the top of the key and shooting his great mid-range shot or slashing to the hoop for a layup or a dunk.
Age 21 Tim scored 21 ppg on an EFG% of .549 and a TS% of .577
Age 21 Wemby is scoring 24 ppg on an EFG% .559 of and a TS% of .597
...while also being the front-runner for DPOY and averaging 11 rebounds and 3.8 blocks per game.
I'm not saying Wemby is better than Timmy, but yes...he is a force to be reckoned with even if he isn't putting up 30 a game
Age 21 Tim played in 1997-1998, league average points per game 95.6, EFG% of 0.478 and TS% of .524
Age 21 Wemby in 2024-2025, league average points per game 113.4, EFG% of 0.541 and TS% of 0.574
I knew these fools were fumbling quite a bit but thanks for the forensic support. I still think this is not an apples to apples comparison as Wemby has bore a heavier load than TD early among other things. We being spoiled brats need to not forget Wemby’s otherworldly exploits due to a recent little slump.
The thing Tim had was plug in consistency. He was around his averages every night, hence the Groundhog Day nickname. Wemby scores 50, and then a few days later scores 17. He’s kind of all over the place.
They’re both over league averages, and if you compared their year 2 averages instead of age 21, it isn’t even close.
Tim year 2: EFG% .495 TS% .541. He kinda regressed.
I love Tim and he's the reason I even became a Spurs lifer in the first place, but saying Vic "will never be CLOSE to Timmy" is just darn short-sighted.
The reason he's getting as much hype as he is is the god-tier physical attributes that he possesses coupled with clear, natural ball skills that you just don't get from people his size.
Tim was a vastly superior post-up player, yes, but Vic certainly has better tools to be a more multi-faceted scorer in this day and age. Heck. he's actually scoring more than Tim at this point in their careers. Shoots a little less efficiently, yes, but is a way better FT shooter and let's not even talk about the 3-ball.
Furthermore, there's even a solid argument to make that Tim's game wouldn't have worked as well in today's NBA.
What I'm saying is, declaring Vic to be "nowhere close to Tim" and that "he probably never will" OFFENSIVELY is a tad laughable to me.
He's struggling lately but even despite all that, you'd be blind to say he does not have the tools to be one of the greatest scorers in the game, way ahead of Tim, just because what? He can't post up? He's too light, to post up?
Pfffft.
Exactly. I'm a TD fan for life but to say Vic "is not close and will never be" is just downright insane to me.
Sooo...your bar for not being good in the post is...not being as good as Timmy.
I guess we have to agree to disagree.
I mean, you're a got.
Hope this helps.
I've said that Wemby is the best player I've seen since Jordan and he's younger than all the guys he's compared to by at least a couple of years.
I love Castle but lol @ Castle > Manu.
Timmy would also frustrate Wemby in the paint that all Wemby would do is start forcing 3s.
Very helpful!
As if someone named timtonymanu is going to be able to participate in an unbiased new Spurs big 3 discussion…
Don’t call me out because you came up with such a take. Like bene said, shut up got.
I called you out for you weak take, genius. Not the other way around.
Nah this thread backfired and now you’re just finding ways to deflect so again shut up got
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