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    FIRE THE UNKNOWN PEOPLE WHO DO THINGS I ALSO DON'T KNOW!

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    Wow Elon really took the libs for a ride

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    Wow Elon really took the libs for a ride
    Are you not an American taxpayer?

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    Wow Elon really took the libs for a ride
    Busted their hole, broad daylight.

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    So are all the people who lose employment because of stupid government regulations. Sorry, no sympathy. Go find real work.


    What the President and DOGE are doing is what former administrations have promised to do but never had the Big Balls to do. They're identifying waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption in the federal government and exposing it. Then, they're cutting off like a cancer.
    You're sadistic and sociopathic, like Trump

    No fraud and waste have been proven, y'all are just posting through it.

    The way y'all are wrecking people's lives and wrecking government capacity is a das ly crime. It won't soon be forgotten.

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    Wow Elon really took the libs for a ride
    he's taking you for a ride too

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    mass firing thousands of Americans indiscriminately and without any cause is a crime against them and us -- people will die because of this

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    Melanie Mattox Green's most recent performance review in October lauded her "incredible" self-initiative, "superior quality" work, and efforts to promote "efficiencies" on her team.

    She was fired last week based on her performance, along with thousands of other federal probationary workers.

    "It's a low blow, and it's completely baseless," the former US Forest Service employee told Business Insider, adding, "If these terminations were truly about performance, then why were thousands of well-reviewed employees let go?"
    https://www.businessinsider.com/can-...-unions-2025-2

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    before long we're going to be talking about hundreds of thousands of lost public jobs

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    There are 3 parts to reporting on Trump's bogus claims of fraud.
    1) Elon has been caught in lie after lie, & his "receipts" prove that he has no one competent to understand what they're looking at.
    2) Trump's claims of fraud RELY ON HIS OWN COVID FRAUD PROBLEM.
    3) He fired the guys who found it.

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    I mean, vandalism and arson change things dramatically, but does that mean they're good?

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    I will fix my finances using the DOGE roadmap

    Step 1: save 5 dollars by not getting coffee
    Step 2: record it as 5,000 dollars in the spreadsheet where i track my finances
    Step 3: tell everyone I saved 5,000 dollars already

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    to be fair, the Trump/Musk junta has no intention of following laws and Trump just declared himself lord of nominally independent regulatory agencies. I guess they decided the SEC doesn't need to do legal research, Trump/Vaught will just tell them what the law is.






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    the power wasn't ceded, the Musk/Trump junta took it


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    failure to read and comprehend, lies, posting and decontextualized line items

    there are not millions of centenarians receiving SS

    A July 2023 Social Security OIG report states that “almost none of the numberholders discussed in the report currently receive SSA payments.” And, as of September 2015, the agency automatically stops payments to people who are older than 115 years old.
    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/na...-20250219.html

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    some of the cuts do not save money but are lost opportunities that cost us

    “In fiscal year 2023, every $1 of NIH funding generated approximately $2.46 of economic activity”.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-show-far-less

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    Republican legislators are begging Trump to give them back their own appropriations

    The Trump/DOGE junta is crazypants radical

    “Many of these abrupt terminations will do more harm than good, stunting opportunities in Alaska and leaving holes in our communities,” Murkowski wrote. “We can’t realize our potential for responsible energy and mineral development if we can’t permit projects. We will be less prepared to manage summer wildfires if we can’t support those on the front lines. Our tourism economy will be damaged if we don’t maintain our world-class national parks and forests.”


    Murkowski wrote that she supported President Donald Trump’s efforts to reduce the federal government, but added the current “approach is bringing confusion, anxiety, and now trauma to our civil servants—some of whom moved their families and packed up their whole lives to come here.”


    “Indiscriminate workforce cuts aren’t efficient and won’t fix the federal budget, but they will hurt good people who have answered the call to public service to do important work for our nation,” Murkowski added.
    https://kansasreflector.com/2025/02/...deral-workers/

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    Yesterday, the Justice Department filed a declaration claiming Elon Musk isn’t running or employed by DOGE. The audacity of this claim would be almost comical if it weren’t so dangerous. As Cathy Gellis just pointed out a little while ago, this declaration actually makes their potential Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) violations worse, but that’s almost beside the point given the sheer brazenness of the lie.

    Let’s go through some of the receipts.

    On November 12, Donald Trump clearly announced that Elon Musk would run DOGE:

    I am pleased to announce that the Great Elon Musk… will lead the Department of Government Efficiency (“DOGE”). [DOGE] will pave the way for my Administration to dismantle Government Bureaucracy, slash excess regulations, cut wasteful expenditures, and restructure Federal Agencies – Essential to the “Save America” Movement. “This will send shockwaves through the system, and anyone involved in Government waste, which is a lot of people!” stated Mr. Musk.

    Sure, some things have changed since that November announcement — Vivek Ramaswamy, mentioned in the same release, was kicked off the project before inauguration. But Musk’s leadership of DOGE? That’s been constant, obvious, and repeatedly demonstrated through both his actions and his own statements.

    And then there are DOGE’s day-to-day operations. Just last week, Rolling Stone reported on how DOGE’s staff — a collection of what can only be described as extremely online wannabe edge lords — have been running around Washington with all the subtlety of a kid who just discovered 4chan and thinks it’s actually cool. Their go-to move when they don’t get what they want? Threatening to call their boss. And who might that boss be? Well:

    When security officials, for instance, at several departments and agencies have responded that they need to check to ensure these young Musk allies have proper clearance to view sensitive databases, DOGE staff have routinely erupted in fury. Some have told these security officials that if they don’t give them what they want immediately, they’ll call Musk’s cell phone and give him the officials’ names — and have the richest man in the world call and yell at them, or get them reprimanded or fired.

    “Do I need to call Elon?” one DOGE member barked at a federal security official while demanding access to sensitive information at one agency this month, a source familiar with the exchange tells Rolling Stone.

    This has happened repeatedly since the dawn of the second Trump administration — at the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the Treasury Department, at the Office of Personnel Management, and elsewhere. It has become a cruel punchline within the federal bureaucracy, four sources familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone, that “some child” from the DOGE team “will threaten to call Elon Musk, if you don’t do what the child wants,” as one federal career official describes it.

    This isn’t the behavior of staff working for an “advisor” or someone uninvolved with DOGE. This is the conduct of employees who know exactly who their boss is. And who (rightly assume) that everyone they’re talking to also knows who their boss is.

    Which, by the way, creates an interesting situation: If the Justice Department’s declaration is true and Elon really isn’t running DOGE, then federal employees should immediately stop bowing down to these threats. After all, why would anyone need to worry about a call from someone who (according to the DOJ) has no official role or authority over the DOGE team? In fact, given this declaration, shouldn’t security officials be asking DOGE staff who actually has the authority to override their security protocols? (Good luck getting an answer to that one.)

    But of course, everyone knows exactly who’s really in charge. And Musk hasn’t exactly been subtle about it. I mean, when Elon gave his White House briefing last week, he spoke so much about DOGE and what he was doing via DOGE that the Elon fanboy account “Elon Clips” listed out 17 “DOGE actions” that Elon discussed. And then Elon retweeted it.


    Just days ago, Elon tweeted a picture of himself sitting behind a “D.O.G.E” sign, in response to a Congressional Rep expressing concerns about DOGE:

    And now we’re supposed to believe he has no role with DOGE? This isn’t just a lie — it’s an insult to our collective intelligence, a demand that we deny what we’ve all witnessed with our own eyes.

    Like the emperor parading naked through the streets, this lie is both absurd and revealing. The Justice Department isn’t just asking us to believe a falsehood — they’re demanding we participate in an obvious fiction, testing who will stay silent and who will speak up.

    Of course, Trump/Musk trolls will celebrate this as the ultimate troll, as if deliberately lying to a federal court is just another epic meme. But that’s exactly the point: this isn’t about humor or owning the libs or whatever excuse they’ll manufacture. It’s about whether we’ll collectively accept a lie so brazen it makes a mockery of truth itself.

    This declaration isn’t just an attempt to shield Musk from accountability for DOGE’s actions — it’s a test of our willingness to deny reality itself. And like that child in Andersen’s tale, we need to state the obvious: Elon Musk runs DOGE. Everyone knows it. He knows it. His staff knows it. Donald Trump knows it. The Justice Department lawyers who filed this declaration know it. The federal judges who will read it know it. And they know we know it too.

    That’s what makes this moment so clarifying. It’s not just about whether Elon runs DOGE (he does). It’s about whether we’re willing to pretend he doesn’t. Whether we’ll nod along as the emperor parades down the street, stark naked, insisting he’s wearing the finest clothes anyone has ever seen.

    You can choose to believe the lie if that’s important to you. But I think I’ll stick with the kid in the story. The emperor is naked, Elon runs DOGE, and no amount of legal paperwork can change what we’ve all seen with our own eyes.
    https://www.techdirt.com/2025/02/18/...othes/#respond

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    No , it's extremely clear Musk wants to formally distance himself from DOGE when the lawsuits begin to really heat up.

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    No , it's extremely clear Musk wants to formally distance himself from DOGE when the lawsuits begin to really heat up.
    all the credit, none of the responsibility

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    Republican legislators are begging Trump to give them back their own appropriations

    The Trump/DOGE junta is crazypants radical

    https://kansasreflector.com/2025/02/...deral-workers/
    these people are cloaked in the authority of the cons ution itself and are begging zoomer incels to restore legally appropriated funds

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