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    Might want to ignore that stat. Vassell is at 3.6.
    Has anyone claimed Vassell is not a 3 point threat? Or is this just another exstatic strawman?

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    Jollins for Vassell (plus maybe a little extra draft compensation coming our way) would be a pretty nice swap. We shave off 3 years of Devin's deal, get someone who can slot into that 4th option, and is significantly better defensively (though Jollins D numbers are worse than I thought they'd be).

    CraftedNBA has a really nice tool to sort 3&D players that shows you their SQ Index and DPM on the summary table. Good way to quickly identify trade prospects. https://craftednba.com/player-traits/three-n-dee
    well the guy played on the Hawks and the tanking Jazz and was often used as small ball C, which he's not good at. I think he'd probably look a lot better on a team with capable defenders around him. He's not a lockdown defender, but can block shots and grab a lot of boards. Also gives us some more athelticism and shooting.

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    Vassell is at 3.6 and Sochan is at 0.9. Meanwhile, Vassell's shooting 35% from 3 while Sochan's shooting 34%. You can think what you want, but I'm going to say that 3P/100 is probably a more accurate marker of how often a guy is left open on the perimeter than 3 point percentage alone.
    I’m not arguing against the stat. It seems like an OK way to show some floor spacing ability. I’m chiding Scott for his bias against Vassell. His last 4 seasons were 3.4, 4.1, 3.5, 3.6.

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    I’m not arguing against the stat. It seems like an OK way to show some floor spacing ability. I’m chiding Scott for his bias against Vassell. His last 4 seasons were 3.4, 4.1, 3.5, 3.6.
    If you want to stan for Dev, make your case. My "bias" comes backed up with data. Don't sing it, bring it. Show us how he's turned the corner.

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    If you want to stan for Dev, make your case. My "bias" comes backed up with data. Don't sing it, bring it. Show us how he's turned the corner.
    I just did. You quoted it, and according to you, it’s a valid stat that you’re “going to start using”.

    Nice, I'm going to start using that as well. Makes perfect sense. Fox is at 2.6 this season (down from 3.9 last year), which passes the eye test for me on how he's still a threat teams need to account for despite his poor % this season.

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    I just did. You quoted it, and according to you, it’s a valid stat that you’re “going to start using”.
    Got it. So your entire defense of Devin Vassell is that he makes 3 pointers?

    Solid work, really thorough. Thanks man. Going forward I will make sure to footnote every discussion on Devin Vassell with "Please note, Devin makes 3.6 threes per 100 possessions" - will come in real handy when talking about his defense.

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    Got it. So your entire defense of Devin Vassell is that he makes 3 pointers?

    Solid work, really thorough. Thanks man. Going forward I will make sure to footnote every discussion on Devin Vassell with "Please note, Devin makes 3.6 threes per 100 possessions" - will come in real handy when talking about his defense.
    The discussion was about 3 pointers, and a stat based on them. You looked up Fox and posted his numbers, but I knew you wouldn’t look up Vassell or post his numbers, so I did it for you.

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    The discussion was about 3 pointers, and a stat based on them. You looked up Fox and posted his numbers, but I knew you wouldn’t look up Vassell or post his numbers, so I did it for you.
    Has there ever been a discussion on this forum about Devin not being a 3 point threat?

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    Has there ever been a discussion on this forum about Devin not being a 3 point threat?
    if anything people have begrudgingly said we need vassell on the floor because of his shooting

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    Not sure it's been talk about before, anyone else interested by Santi Aldana?

    I like him a lot, he could become available and his inside/out game will be perfect to pair with Wemby imo

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    Not sure it's been talk about before, anyone else interested by Santi Aldana?

    I like him a lot, he could become available and his inside/out game will be perfect to pair with Wemby imo
    We mentioned him plenty.


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    Told y‘all. But now that we got Fox we don’t have cap space, so we would need to make a sign and trade.

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    Told y‘all. But now that we got Fox we don’t have cap space, so we would need to make a sign and trade.
    Not necessarily. Spurs can trade contracts into cap space or exceptions to generate more room if they need it for a FA.

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    Naz Reid guys

    can we get him in the offseason??

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    We’d be lucky to get 2nd rounders for vASSell and Keldumb

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    We’d be lucky to get 2nd rounders for vASSell and Keldumb

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    At this point I’d say keldon still has some value, Vassell we’d have to throw in capital so might as well keep him. That said, we got rid of Zollins without giving up anything (and got positive returns) so there’s always hope.

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    How much for AD?

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    Vassell and a 2031 first sounds about right for Nico, though maybe talk him down to the 2029 instead since we're taking a risk with AD and the 2031 has that Sacramento swap.

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    Wonder what it would take to get the CHI center in a trade this offseason. Put up 20/12 tonight and is averaging 18.2/10.4 with a 67.5% TS% in his last 5 games since entering the starting lineup for the Bulls.

    Anyone know anything about this Zach Collins guy? Think we could get him for only 1 or 2 FRP?

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    Not sure it's been talk about before, anyone else interested by Santi Aldana?

    I like him a lot, he could become available and his inside/out game will be perfect to pair with Wemby imo
    l

    Interesting though his game reminds me of a Center I like in this draft Max Raynaud

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    Aldama has been talked about plenty and would be a great addition.

    I'm wondering if there's a chance to get in on the Mavs -show and grab Lively as a backup center/insurance policy? Based on their recent transactions, maybe Biyombo and Harrison Ingram get it done?

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    Aldama has been talked about plenty and would be a great addition.

    I'm wondering if there's a chance to get in on the Mavs -show and grab Lively as a backup center/insurance policy? Based on their recent transactions, maybe Biyombo and Harrison Ingram get it done?
    I think Gafford is more gettable.

    Also think PJ Washington would be a good fit.

    I said in another thread I think the Mavs blow it up this off-season after the Kyrie injury. Including trading AD and Kyrie.

    Lively is the only young + prospect they have so don’t see them giving him up cheaply.

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