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    not the way it's done in a free country

    hacking US IT to spy on the whole of government and apply pressure to the whole of government from the top down isn't the style of presidential leadership we're used to

    it isn't particularly presidential either


    https://www.theatlantic.com/technolo...d-mode-access/

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    It's part of Expedition 72

    Expedition 72 began on Sept. 23, 2024 and ends in Spring 2025. The orbital residents will explore a variety of space phenomena to benefit humans on and off the Earth including pharmaceutical manufacturing, advanced life support systems, genetic sequencing in microgravity, and more.

    The astronauts who came up on the Starliner were always part of Expedition 72 and continue to fulfill the duties of crew for that expedition.

    You can read what they do every day.

    If you're not a ing moron.
    You're talking about the mission of the ISS Crew. Yes, when originally planned, SpaceX Crew Dragon 9 was going to deliver 4 astronauts and loiter while they conducted their mission. SpaceX deliberately sent SpaceX Crew Dragon 9 with two empty seats, with the expressed intention of bringing home the 2 stranded astronauts.

    The actual space craft is not involved in the mission of the astronauts aboard the ISS.

    The mission of SpaceX Crew Dragon 9 was to deliver astronauts and, before launch, it was changed to bring back the 2 stranded astronauts.

    Soyuz would have been there --- like they've been there for 10 years -- waiting for the next crew rotation in March of 2025.

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    You're talking about the mission of the ISS Crew. Yes, when originally planned, SpaceX Crew Dragon 9 was going to deliver 4 astronauts and loiter while they conducted their mission. SpaceX deliberately sent SpaceX Crew Dragon 9 with two empty seats, with the expressed intention of bringing home the 2 stranded astronauts.

    The actual space craft is not involved in the mission of the astronauts aboard the ISS.
    of course it is.

    The craft brings the crew to the ISS.

    And takes it back.

    It's mission critical.

    You're flailing dude.
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    of course it is.

    The craft brings the crew to the ISS.

    And takes it back.

    It's mission critical.

    You're flailing dude.
    Nah, I'm pretty sure of my conclusion. I don't think NASA would have allowed two empty seats on SpaceX Crew Dragon 9 if they didn't know the intent, unless you're suggesting SpaceX just took it upon themselves to make that alternate plan.

    I think it's you that's misunderstanding -- probably deliberately. Go troll someone else.

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    Lord Protector Trump

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    Lord Protector Trump
    Nah, just President Trump, fulfilling his oath to protect and defend the U. S. Cons ution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That's it. And, doing a bang up job. He's got all the right people whining.

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    Nah, it's a neo-puritan revolution

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    Nah, just President Trump, fulfilling his oath to protect and defend the U. S. Cons ution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. That's it. And, doing a bang up job. He's got all the right people whining.
    Against personal enemies is not in the Cons ution.

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    Y'all started a religious war because society changed not to your liking

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    Y'all started a religious war because society changed not to your liking
    After you started the war because Trump bull rushed the gate and made President.

    You were able to oust him and thought you was safe again, then Biden quit, you misfired in PA., and Trump made President again.

    Could end in the streets, could end with your side standing down again...but, he never quit, and quite frankly neither have you all.

    Let us proceed...

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    "...could be torpedoed..."

    Meh, let me know when it happens, then we'll talk.

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    "....The New Republic added, “Several parts of Musk’s businesses concern India. The tech mogul is trying to get access for his Starlink satellite internet service in the country, and is fighting with Indian billionaire Mukesh Ambani, who has competing interests. Musk also is trying to sell low-cost Tesla vehicles in India and get past the country’s tariffs on electric vehicles.”

    Was the billionaire meeting with the Indian prime minister in his businessman capacity, or as the head of a quasi-governmental “department”? When the president was asked this question, he replied, “I don’t know.”

    How reassuring......."

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...ict-rcna192259

    No conflict to see here

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    "....The New Republic added, “Several parts of Musk’s businesses concern India. The tech mogul is trying to get access for his Starlink satellite internet service in the country, and is fighting with Indian billionaire Mukesh Ambani, who has competing interests. Musk also is trying to sell low-cost Tesla vehicles in India and get past the country’s tariffs on electric vehicles.”

    Was the billionaire meeting with the Indian prime minister in his businessman capacity, or as the head of a quasi-governmental “department”? When the president was asked this question, he replied, “I don’t know.”

    How reassuring......."

    https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-...ict-rcna192259

    No conflict to see here
    In the video I saw, the President actually said, "I'll ask him." I don't think he said, "I don't know." He may not have known but, since he said he would ask him, I'm betting it wasn't a meeting had in his official capacity as Special Advisor to the President. Musk is fan of Modi's and, yes, he's trying to get business there. How convenient Modi was in the same place at the same time as Musk. Why not meet?

    Are you suggesting Musk couldn't have gotten a meeting with Modi, outside his capacity as President Trump's Special Advisor? Just checking my understanding.

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    He didn't know. Otherwise he would've said.

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    He didn't know. Otherwise he would've said.
    Which should tell any reasonable person Musk wasn't acting in his capacity as Special Advisor to the President.

    The President said he would ask. Has it come back up in any Press gaggle?

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    Which should tell any reasonable person Musk wasn't acting in his capacity as Special Advisor to the President.

    The President said he would ask. Has it come back up in any Press gaggle?
    He didn't say Musk wasn't acting in that capacity

    He didn't know.

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    Which should tell any reasonable person Musk wasn't acting in his capacity as Special Advisor to the President.

    The President said he would ask. Has it come back up in any Press gaggle?
    So you're saying Trump isn't a reasonable person

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    He didn't say Musk wasn't acting in that capacity

    He didn't know.
    And he said he'd ask. Has it been revisited by the press?

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    And he said he'd ask. Has it been revisited by the press?
    Trump didn't know but you say you know.


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    Trump didn't know but you say you know.

    "Any reasonable person!"

    * other than Trump

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    Trump didn't know but you say you know.

    I didn't say I knew. I said that since he said he'd ask, means he probably doesn't know and is an indication it wasn't in his official capacity as Special Advisor to the President. What could Musk and Modi have to discuss remotely related to his position as Special Advisor to the President, helping to strategize the efficiency audit of the federal government?

    Your comprehension skills have never been very sharp, Chump.

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    This is what you said:
    Which should tell any reasonable person Musk wasn't acting in his capacity as Special Advisor to the President.
    If you want to walk it back now, just say you're walking it back.

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    This is what you said:
    If you want to walk it back now, just say you're walking it back.
    I'm not walking anything back; I assert that any reasonable person could assume it had nothing to do with his official capacity as Special Adviser to the President because Trump seemed not to know. He said he'd ask. Has anyone followed up?

    Now, there's another possibility. The President of the United States enjoys Presidential Communications Privilege with his immediate staff, including Elon Musk. He doesn't have to ing tell you what he and Elon Musk discuss.

    Again, I'd ask what possible conflict-of-interest could the Special Advisor to the President (overseeing the efficiency audit of the federal government) have in meeting with Prime Minister Modi?

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    I'm not walking anything back; I assert that any reasonable person could assume it had nothing to do with his official capacity as Special Adviser to the President because Trump seemed not to know.
    Now you're assuming?

    Walkback confirmed.

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