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    Something seemed off with him the past couple weeks and they said he had an upper respiratory infection. Even sick he was putting up great numbers. He will likely be on blood thinners the rest of his life but I am glad they caught it before it got any worse. Ingram had the same condition and came back so I hope he recovers and is able to come back and play at a high level and it's not career ending.

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    Would a doctor clear a player if he's on blood thinners for the rest of his life? With the amount of contact and falling down in basketball seems like that would be a concern. I know they get extremely concerned about normal patients on blood thinners being a fall risk due to the possibility of excessive bleeding
    They can design different types of blood thinner regimen for people who are athletes. They can go on and off of them. He can take them during the off season when there's less contact involved

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    Right, imma go ahead and take the insanely optimistic route of this being a one off case:

    * We weren't gonna make the play-ins anyway. Let's tank for better draft positioning.
    * Might as well get Fox fixed up at this point too. Even more tanking goodness for draft positioning.
    * Unleash the Castle. Get him the ROTY and let him just do whatever he wants to develop.
    * Give Vassell and Keldon more minutes, up their trade value as proven tank commanders for the offseason moves.
    * Spurs hopefully wake up to the fact a great backup big is super important this offseason to not run wemby into the ground, and make the right moves
    * No Euro ball for Wemby this summer. He'll be cleared for a full offseason of prep and conditioning and training
    * Missing out on DPOY and All NBA will light a fire in Wemby's soul, he'll come back with a vengeance next season. 30/12/5 with 6 stocks

    When god gives you smeared lemons, you make lemonade

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    This PT says he thinks Wemby will be alright long-term. 3 months of blood-thinners and then reevaluate.


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    Does discovering this earlier makes a difference ? Not like before a stroke, but as with cancer
    Funny you should mention cancer.

    My friend with the lower leg blood clots was sent to see an oncologist even though it's not cancer.

    For some reason oncologists seem to have some connection with/insight into this situation.

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    How can thrombosis in his shoulder affect his overall energy levels though? That almost seems to be a lung issue.
    inflammatory reaction to the DVT
    Haven't read the whole thread but anybody say what blood vessel?
    Upper extremity DVTs are much less likely to embolize to the ungs.

    Sometimes these are due to anatomical abnormalities thoracic outlet syndrome

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    I was assuming this was unrelated to his illness from 2 or 3 weeks ago (after the Paris games), but some of you are thinking it was related?

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    RIP "Sneezy" nickname tbh.
    "Clots McGee" tbh.

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    text message w/ doctor buddy of mine who does sports medicine

    caveat that he's a laker fun

    OK, that doesn't sound good. I thought that might have been the cause of his fatigue, struggling to breath.

    I hope Victor recovers for his sake, not for any of us as fans. The kid loves basketball and works super hard. Great person too. It hurts looking back at how hard he played in the all-star game while having this happen to him.

    Hopefully it's a good thing the Spurs picked this up sooner.

    I'm a hematologist. I think Victor may have this:

    Paget-Schroetter: A Thrombosis Syndrome in the Young and Healthy | ASH Clinical News | American Society of Hematology

    He will need to be on blood thinners (anticoagulation) for a period of time. Sometimes thrombolysis (destroy clot with a catheter) or surgery is needed. If he indeed has this, then he will make a full recovery and this should not threaten his career. I suspect Spurs medical staff will have him get a CT scan of the lungs to make sure there is not blood clot in the lungs.
    Thanks for posting. I really appreciate you giving us some general information about it.

    I asked/posted about it earlier, as I thought the fatigue and breathing may be because of this. If it is not related, what could be causing those issues? Any idea on that? Those are the issues that had me wondering what is going on with him the past week or two. You could clearly see he was struggling out there.

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    I'm a hematologist. I think Victor may have this:

    Paget-Schroetter: A Thrombosis Syndrome in the Young and Healthy | ASH Clinical News | American Society of Hematology

    He will need to be on blood thinners (anticoagulation) for a period of time. Sometimes thrombolysis (destroy clot with a catheter) or surgery is needed. If he indeed has this, then he will make a full recovery and this should not threaten his career. I suspect Spurs medical staff will have him get a CT scan of the lungs to make sure there is not blood clot in the lungs.
    Seems surgery would be the best way to go. Thanks for weighing in here with your expertise.

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    Bright side he won't be playing internationally this summer

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    Funny you should mention cancer.

    My friend with the lower leg blood clots was sent to see an oncologist even though it's not cancer.

    For some reason oncologists seem to have some connection with/insight into this situation.
    Oncology training includes hematology. So this is in there wheel house of training and mangement.

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    I was assuming this was unrelated to his illness from 2 or 3 weeks ago (after the Paris games), but some of you are thinking it was related?
    It probably was but glad they caught it when they did because if he kept playing dude might have collapsed on the court. The blood thinners after a few months will get rid of the clot and he will have to stay on them the rest of his life.

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    text message w/ doctor buddy of mine who does sports medicine

    caveat that he's a laker fun

    Ask if some issue causing lack of energy, could cause this blood clot

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    If there is anything optimistic to take out of this, it came at the best time it could have come. He's very young and should make a full recovery according to most reports. And you have the fact we are in position to be at the top of the draft more than once. No one wants this to happen but if it's going to this is best case scenario.

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    "Clots McGee" tbh.
    Thromby.

    I apologize.

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    I don't give a about our season.
    I don't give a about Wemby not getting DPOY or All NBA.

    I just hope he'll have a full recovery. Get well soon, Wemby!

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    He hadn't looked the same conditioning-wise since coming back from Denver at the start of the year.


    I also think back to when GG Jackson landed square on Wemby's right shoulder when they both dove for a loose ball in Memphis a few weeks ago.


    Entirely unqualified speculation of course but could that have exacerbated an existing issue?

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    It probably was but glad they caught it when they did because if he kept playing dude might have collapsed on the court. The blood thinners after a few months will get rid of the clot and he will have to stay on them the rest of his life.
    How do you know he'll have to stay on them the rest of his life? Staying on blood thinners doesn't sound good at all.

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    Thromby.

    I apologize.
    lol...perfect

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    From Open Evidence, an AI medical website I use.

    A blood clot in the shoulder typically refers to a deep vein thrombosis (DVT) in the upper extremity, specifically involving the veins of the shoulder region, such as the subclavian, axillary, or brachial veins. This condition can arise due to various factors, including trauma, surgery, or repe ive strain.
    One specific type of upper extremity DVT is Paget-Schroetter syndrome, also known as effort thrombosis, which is often seen in athletes or individuals engaging in repe ive upper limb activities. This syndrome involves thrombosis of the subclavian vein and presents with symptoms such as painful swelling, discoloration, and visible collateral veins in the affected arm.[1-2]

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    I don't give a about our season.
    I don't give a about Wemby not getting DPOY or All NBA.

    I just hope he'll have a full recovery. Get well soon, Wemby!
    Of course his health is the #1 concern, but I'm operating from the assumption that he recovers and goes on to have a long career. If that does happen, it sucks that he's getting deprived of significant career accolades.

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    Funny you should mention cancer.

    My friend with the lower leg blood clots was sent to see an oncologist even though it's not cancer.

    For some reason oncologists seem to have some connection with/insight into this situation.
    Yeah, I see a hematologist as well who offices in an oncology clinic. Scared the out of me when I first got referred and I was showing up to an oncology clinic... my first reaction was "is there something they aren't telling me?" (Everything turned out fine)

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    I don't give a about our season.
    I don't give a about Wemby not getting DPOY or All NBA.

    I just hope he'll have a full recovery. Get well soon, Wemby!
    Yeah, I agree with you there.

    He hadn't looked the same conditioning-wise since coming back from Denver at the start of the year.


    I also think back to when GG Jackson landed square on Wemby's right shoulder when they both dove for a loose ball in Memphis a few weeks ago.


    Entirely unqualified speculation of course but could that have exacerbated an existing issue?
    Very interesting. I wonder if that could have played a part. He was looking amazing in that first Denver game. He really was looking like a top 3 player on the planet and playing amazing. And I wonder if GG landing on him, like you just said, if that could have exacerbated anything?
    Good observations.

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    Umpf...I have always been scared about Victor's health cutting his career short...like I can't be grateful for the incredible luck the Spurs had in getting the number one pick and getting a generational talent. This just feeds on my fears. First and foremost, hope the dude is healthy and gets better as he is young and has much of life yet to live regardless if this ever stopped him from playing basketball again. Second, selfishly hope that he returns next year to lead a loaded squad that is good for years to come. We in SA have been spoiled with great basketball players: Gervin, Robinson, Duncan, Parker, Kawhi (I know, I know), and Manu being the best of the best. Please Basketball Gods just give us Wemby even though we don't deserve him.

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