You guys gotta chill. Every move has to be on the assumption that Wemby is coming back. Getting an insurance is some GSW light years ahead two timeline move.
Brandon Ingram and Ausar Thompson say you’re wrong. They’ve both recovered from upper extremity DVT, and are playing without restrictions. Ingram had it when he was with the Lakers, so it’s been a while. Ausar had it last year, and is back playing full time.
Agree. What Spurs are expecting about Wemby's injury is to be an one time thing and him being back for the training camp. This injury isn't also linked with him playing too much minutes.
This injury should change nothing related to Spurs' draft plan and more globally their rebuilding plan. The only impact could be that Spurs get a slightly better pick this year (maybe one or two spot higher).
add Anderson Varajao and Mirza Teletovic. they all fully recoverd. (unfortunately Varejao had so many other injuries)
I know, I read that Wemby will be fine and ready for next season, expected making full recovery - thats why make this post about non-Wemby starting 5
That’s wonderful news. I think they just shut Fox down and get his surgery, make the most of the situation and get us the highest chance on the draft pick, top 4 would be great! Plus Danny Wolf
If the Spurs don't shut Fox down I don't see them falling any lower than what they currently are at 10.
Portland is going to pull their players and tank, Sixers are going to tank to keep their pick and Chicago and Brooklyn aren't good.
If the Spurs want to win games they aren't going to fall below those teams.
After seeing the positive effect Biyombo had on last night's game with his big body in the interior, my interest in Danny Wolf is ramping way up.
Anyway, #12 Michigan faces #14 Michigan State tonight on Fox Sports and should feature Wolf along with MichSt PG/SG Jase Richardson (probably not on Spurs radar).
Also, don't ignore 7' 1" center Vladislav Goldin on UMich as a 2nd round big. I think he's a fringe 2nd rounder right now, but frequently when looking for Wolf highlights I come away impressed by Goldin. He's maybe a + or ++ version of a Plumlee type center. He's about to turn 24, so there's that too. He and Wolf have deevloped into a nice big-man tandem as well, if that's worth anything. Also, he's 8 of 18 from 3, which is interesting; he never once took a 3-point attempt in over a 100+ games with FAU priior to his transfer to UM.
Recent highlights:
Danny Wolf is my guy. I see a lot of Diaw, David Lee in him, high bball IQ and contributes in many way, plus he’s already playing with another big man. I just think he’s a winner or at least will have a long career in the NBA with his skills.
You could have read the entire post you were responding to, where it clearly said "in the event" and then goes on to talk about when Wemby does come back, the scenario leaves you with a significantly better backup C, or the option to play twin towers and put Wemby at the 4.
But instead you chose derp.
Essengue is still my guy with the lower 1st rounder tbh. Will be the Sochan replacement in 2-3 years IMO.
i feel like its bad juju to pine for the #1 overall pick. too greedy after landing wemby
im on team ace bailey as far as draft day wishes
Draft experts, is there any team out there that might make sense for us to package, say, the 9th and 11th pick to move up the draft ladder with? Or any players between 5-8 it'd make sense to do so? Or is it really top 4 or bust as far as great talent in this draft.
Honestly I'm completely content with the 10th and 12th pick in this draft (or wherever they land in the natural scheme of things)... and I'm completely content with trading one of those picks away like we did with #8 last year if the opportunity presents itself.
While landing a Top 4 pick sounds nice, and this is going to sound strange, I think it almost leads to too much of an embarrassment of riches. If we land Flagg, then there will need to be a pretty monumental shift in the way we think about our team. Castle goes from being part of our future Big 3 to more of a Derrick White-like supporting character. This sounds pretty awesome, but that fits Derrick White because that is Derrick's 90th percentile outcome, whereas it might only be Steph's 60 percentile outcome... so now you suboptimized Steph. The same is probably true of Dylan Harper, whereas with Edgecombe and Bailey they may be better suited as supporting cast for the Wemby/Fox/Castle big 3.
These are, as they say, winners problems... good ones to have... but part of me would kind of just rather see us build around our big 3 of Wemby/Fox/Castle with smart, solid role players - the Harrison Barnes of the league. This will also be more sustainable for our team.
I know this sounds counterintuitive and maybe even kind of stupid, because you should always want to add the best players you can, but I'm really excited about our future big 3 of Wemby/Fox/Castle and I want to see us build around them. I don't think a Big 4 is achievable or sustainable. BOS might be the closest with Tatum/Brown/Tingus/Jrue/Derrick... but they also have a roster that this ownership group will never pay for.
I'll be happy if we land a Top 4... but honestly if we landed 2-4 (I'm taking Flagg no matter what), I might be an advocate for trading that pick away. Would NOP take #2 and Vassell for Trey Murphy? Would POR possibly do #3 and Keldon for Camara and Clingan? I'd be targeting rebuilding teams with young up and comers on cheap deals... might be overthinking things though.
I struggle to see a scenario where any team would want to go from the Top 5 (that is where most folks I trust seem to have a huge tier break) to two mid to late lotto picks, but I could definitely see a scenario where say the Spurs were in love with Liam McNeeley and wanted to get up to #6 to take him and could package 9 and 11. The draft seems pretty flat from 6 to around 16 according to the guys I listen to.
I think that would be doable, just maybe not a great use of assets. If McNeeley is the guy you really want, I'd rather just sit tight at 9 and hope he is there, and be happy with taking Knueppel or Tre Johnson if he doesn't make it. Then look to pull of a MIN like trade with #11 for future draft capital if one presents itself, or take BPA, or move #11 for a proven player.
Caveat: I am definitely not super high on this draft outside of the Top 5... which is strange considering I also don't really want us to take a guy in the Top 5 (see my post above).
Of what I believe the needs of the team are: 1) Shooting, 2) BBIQ/Processing Speed, and 3) Forward/Center (3-5) positions
The players I want are completely scattered through the first round:
Cooper Flagg
Kon Knueppel (I'm assuming about his BBIQ)
Liam McNeeley
Egor Demin (including him because he's 6'9" even though he's a PG/SG)
Danny Wolf
Wherever we end up, these are the names I'm hoping to hear.
I'd be happy with any wing who has a let's say Bridges upside.
~18ppg on 37-40% from 3pt and positive defense.
Can't ask for more with such odds.
Malauch also intrigues me, he had a great game for Sudan against USA last summer.
So, the white guys. Do you work for the Musk administration?
Some real gym rats in that list, lunch pail carrying salt of the earth amiright
type of guy you'd want to your daughter
Not directly a comment on your post, but what do you think is a realistic expectation/hope for a 4th option on a team in terms of scoring? I see a lot of folks talking about Devin as an 18-19ppg scorer, but leaving Devin aside, assuming our big 3 is Wemby/Fox/Castle, what is a realistic expectations for points from these guys?
Wemby and Fox are already 25ppg scorers. Say Castle becomes an 18ppg guy. What can a team realistically expect out of it's 4th option? I ask because I see a lot of lofty expectations or hopes thrown around, but scoring 116/gm makes you a top 10 scoring team... not everyone can average 15+.
Celtics big 3 is averaging 69 ppg this season, and their 4th option (Derrick) is at 16ppg. The 17-18 Warriors that three 20ppg scorers had their big 3 averaging 72.8ppg and their 4th leading scorer (Draymond) only averaged 11ppg.
Endless motor on these guys, big heart
This is horrible, wishing for Knuepple if you miss on Flagg.
That's a great question and that's why I said we don't really need another star after Fox acquisition, would have too many mouths to feed.
If we assume it's going to be Fox/Castle/Wemby as the core, I honestly don't see how can Devin start with them unless he makes a big, unexpected leap which is very unlikely to happen.
Imo, the best realistic outcome for Devin is to drop the main character act and accept the 6th man role.
Fox/Castle/Devin as the three man guard rotation for the playoffs, with another solid backup PG for regular season load management.
If Devin can't be that 6th man, we get someone else for the role.
Two reliable (key word) 3-D wings to average ~25ppg between them. We went over the potential targets many times, no need to do it again.
Get one of those guys in free agancy or via trade and draft the other one. Keep Barnes as a mentor until the rookie is ready to take over in a couple of years.
Champ as the bench shooter and Jeremy as the glue guy who gets the worst possible assignments because he can't shoot.
Backup big needs to be a physical rebounder/rim protector, would be great if he can shoot, but not a must.
Imo, those are the obvious needs and there's no need to overcomplicate it if Wemby can stay healthy.
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