who wouldn’t be amazed if they saw a Spur big do the play in the second clip of this video? This guy is filthy
Most of Danny Wolf’s “flashy” passes come from top of the key… the most unimpressive type of pass there is because there is no ball handling to go with it AND it’s not a play that can be run consistently in the playoffs. I think people are falling for something that’s not there tbh
Meanwhle, Fleming continues his efficient three point shooting and no signs of falling off. Last year the supposed sharpshooter Zaccharie Risacher had months of poor shooting but was given the benefit of the doubt all year long before the draft. He still only shoots at 32% right now in the NBA. Don’t know how long Fleming has to keep shooting lights out for people to say he’s for real mo7888
I still don’t know what people see in Malauch… i don’t think we can afford to draft an inept offensive player. It’s one thing to focus on defense and rebounding, but I don’t want to pair that skill with a zero on offense. Plus, we’ve seen what an all time defensive anchor can do for us on defense… that is, absolutely nothing if the wings and forwards are on defense.
It's hard to say. Perception is a tough thing to change. Some people view it though current production and some through analytics, i.e. players this age will become this...or players who've made a jump in percentage will return to the mean etc, etc. So I can't really say when perceptions will change, I can only really evaluate what I see, what I think will or won't develop, and how a guy fits in the league or on a specific team. You know my opinion, I've got him top 10. I'm very comfortable with where I've got him. I think he's a high level complimentary player that will have a productive career. His ceiling isn't as high as some above him , but his floor is much higher. I'm perfectly comfortable with drafting him in our perceived draft range.
Just say what you really want to say and say that you want the team to tank next year too. Yeah let’s waste away all of Wemby’s years
Queen is one of the players I still have to scout. Do you think he can play PF next to Wemby? And how is his defense?
Besides Flagg, who out there to draft had both athleticism+IQ?
Why does Flagg have IQ and no one else does???
People like to tag high IQ on white players and low IQ on high energy high athletic black players. IQ players lacking NBA level athleticism are over rated.
Everybody in the top of the draft. That's why these guys are high draft picks because they get results on the court and you're not getting top results without having an understanding of the game,(high IQ).
High IQ is thrown out there for guys with limited NBA abilities/athleticism as compared to other NBA players.
Height, lenght/wingspan, quickness, jumping ability, shooting form and consistency, ball handling dribbling skills. The top players will check off enough of these physical ability boxes and also have high IQ.
Coaches and gaining experience increase the understanding of the game. But it's not rocket science. It's not that difficult. Boxing out, tapping rebounds to a teammate, reading where the ball will come off on a shots trajectory and getting into position for a rebound off a missed shot, seeing the floor to make a good pass.
Basketball IQ involves reading the game, anticipating plays, and making the right choices under pressure. It's about knowing when to pass, shoot, or dribble.
Players with high basketball IQ often seem to be in the right place at the right time.
Probably not full time PF. My dream would be to draft both Fleming and Queen so we can finally have true bigs. We’ll have beef down low and guys with a nose for the ball. The team has went all-versatile the last several years and I think it’s time to fill the roster with guys who could bully their matchup with size and strength.
Queen’s defense is nothing to write home about but the footwork on offense is special and something you don’t see everyday. When we drafted Castle, he was a step in the “guy who can score without it being predictable” direction. We need more creative scorers and Queen is it, at least from a front court perspective.
Obviously you have not watched a lot of Michigan’s game this year. Wolf is a floor general at 7 footer who passes from the key, on post, in traffic, hockey passes. Then you claim he’s not a good defender. He averages 1.5 blocks almost 1 steal game, 12th in rebounding. He already knows how to play with another big man (7’1 Goldin). He’s practically sharing his big man stats. Watch him play, not just the highlights because you’ll see his beautiful game out there, a very high bball iq. I like Fleming 6’9” athletic who can shoot. But I’m hoping they use the 2nd FRP on Wolf. Not another bonehead, all braun no brain.
Listening to Vecenie a little more in depth last night with particular focus on three players who get talked a lot about.
Derik Queen: seems like the report on him from Sam is that he’s great offensively but really bad on defense. I’m still trying to rack my brain around how that fits on our squad.
Tre Johnson: Sam is admittedly not high on Tre. His take seems to be that he’s an effective ISO scorer but doesn’t do anything else, and it’s not clear if he’ll be able to be a successful ISO scorer in the NBA. So basically… what we currently have in Devin Vassell. Not super interested.
Danny Wolf: Sam doesn’t believe in Wolf’s shot, which is kind of the make or break for his ceiling as a pro. He does think Wolf will be a better NBA player than Luka Garza though.
As someone who doesn't really watch college ball, the more I read about these prospects, the more I dislike everyone outside of top5.
If we can't consolidate our picks to get into top5, I'd rather get someone who's ready to contribute right away, we have enough fundamentally flawed players already.
2 for 22 from three. Another big man who can’t shoot, really?
Does Isaiah Hartenstein shoot 3’s? Y’all are obsessed with wanting 3 pt shooting from all five positions when it’s A-OK to have one non shooter on the floor.
You go goo goo gaga over guys who resemble 1% of old Spurs players. First it was Johnny Davis being Manu, then it was thinking Castle would be Nephew at the small forward position (even bragging about it mid-season when he did it for a couple games when players were out), and now Wolf being a Diaw prototype. I think you’re just John B-ing it up again with Wolf.
Just win lottery and draft Flagg, how difficult it could be
Yeah, that’s where I’m at as well, with a big gulf in excitement from 1 to 2, then from 2 to 3-5.
Sam (and I apologize if I come off as a Vecenie fan boy, he’s just the podcast I listen to the most as he comes across as the most knowledgeable and objective NBA guy out there) has been saying for awhile that outside of the top 4 or 5, this is a really weak draft, and there are still plenty of question marks about the guys from 3 to 5.
Everyone keeps saying this is a “strong class” but it’s really not.
Yup touché on Johnny DavisHey I was high on Jalen Johnson, but people thought he’s not Spurs-type character.
But please no more undersized C (6’10) and cannot shoot, and questionable defense.
For me it's about archetypes of players available.
Flagg and Bailey are the only two players I'd take with no hesitation, I'd listen to offers for everyone else.
Harper and Edgecombe look good, but we have Fox/Castle. I want some actual wings. Not even those 6'7 wings, but a 6'9-6'11 PF is a must.
Everyone else is either too small or either can't shoot or can't defend.
I’d be happy with Bailey because he fits the archetype we need, but I’d be fully prepared for him to be disappointing as a Top 5 pick. There are enough question marks that have been raised to give me concern. But it’s not like there are better prospects behind him to take.
Harper I’d still take and be happy to try to make work. He has good enough size to pair with Fox and Castle in the SL, but we’d absolutely need that 6’10” PF.
Pop not being the full-time head coach doesn't mean he won't ever be around the team and players. He didn't die.
Sure, he and Victor won't have the same relationship as if Pop had continued to coach, but that was never going to last forever anyway.
Just the most incorrect pointless rant I’ve seen in a long time. There are so many busts out there at the top of the draft that saying well everybody at the top of the draft has high basketball IQ. I mean more than half the #1 picks are busts. 40% of lottery picks don’t even make it past their 5th year in the league.
Plus just watching Flagg play and it’s obvious to see he has both athleticism and high IQ. What dip question is that? It isn’t just bc he’s white. It’s bc he’s clearly the best of the lot. Take your race baiting elsewhere. I mean Castle has more bb IQ than Sarr for example and would you believe the dumbass was the #2 pick in the draft. Not all of these college player have high basketball IQ. Many of them were brought up to play individual basketball and have no concept of working with a team aspect. Many can’t run or thrive in nba defenses or offenses bc they are just talented and athletic and not smart. Vassell is talented. He’s also a moron. Now his talent might make him have a good career of a bench player going forward but due to his no IQ that’s as far as he will go.
Basketball is incredibly complex. The greats don’t just focus on themselves. They read how/what 9 other people are going to react and do at any moment on the court. That isn’t easy. If it was easy then we would still be running the beautiful game.
Not only that, but the likes of Vassell just think about 5 players on the other team.
I'd argue that everyone should think about how their actions affect their 4 teammates and then think about the opponents.
It's a team game.
There are busts because front offices misread on players abilities, like Houston did with the third pick thinking Sheppard was going to be able to shoot as well in the nBA as he did in college.
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