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    conservatives stanning for this paper tiger

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    libercucks supporting a kokaine dictator

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    So just a few more than a few more weapons. Super power held off.
    Try close to a $150 billion dollars worth of military aid... plus the intelligence network of a real super power.

    Russia is not a superpower -- never was on its own.

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    Worked in Afghanistan; worked in Ukraine until you surrendered.
    Arming Osama Bin Laden worked out real well for us.

    Besides, this Russia is different than the old Soviet Union anyway. Even General Mark Miley said Ukraine should have been negotiating back in 2022. He was right.

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    Arming Osama Bin Laden worked out real well for us.
    We didn't arm Osama Bin Laden. Your ignorance explains a lot.

    Besides, this Russia is different than the old Soviet Union anyway.
    Not really.

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    Try close to a $150 billion dollars worth of military aid... plus the intelligence network of a real super power.

    Russia is not a superpower -- never was on its own.
    When Biden was President the amount was in excess of $300 billion. Now it's down to $100-$150 billion. See, how it shifts when need be?

    Trump is right to go for the half trillion in minerals and oil.

    But he must NOT link that half trillion with the Ukraine rebuild. That must remain separate and must be paid for as the work is done by Americans if they are so awarded the contracts. Paid as it's completed, in American cash. cash-cash.

    And we must leave nothing behind when we pull our out of there. Not 1 single s casing, tank, or, jeep. Everything comes home.

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    We didn't arm Osama Bin Laden. Your ignorance explains a lot.

    Not really.
    That was the story in that circa, you damn right it was. Had Congressional Hearings about it.

    But now we're, in association with MSM rewriting all this materiel so it looks better. Runnin' just as fast as we can.

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    imagine someone talking about not conquering Ukraine who has F16s, air defense and Himars/Atacms with satellite targetting, when their own country got butt ed by a bunch of sandal wearing cave dwellers

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    imagine someone talking about not conquering Ukraine who has F16s, air defense and Himars/Atacms with satellite targetting, when their own country got butt ed by a bunch of sandal wearing cave dwellers
    3-5 days

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    7 billion dollars to the Taliban

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    We didn't arm Osama Bin Laden. Your ignorance explains a lot.
    Arms, funding, training, he and his "Afghan Arab" faction undoubtedly got that and more from us.

    And that's your model for victory against Putin? What the do you think we've been doing the past three years?

    Of course it is. Putin is winning despite $400B+ in Western aid to Ukraine. He's willing to take major casualties unlike the Soviet Union when in its dying days.

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    That was the story in that circa, you damn right it was. Had Congressional Hearings about it.

    But now we're, in association with MSM rewriting all this materiel so it looks better. Runnin' just as fast as we can.
    Right, look at the mess Biden left in Afghanistan. You think our weapons don't fall into the wrong hands even if we tried to stop them? Nothing has change. It's sad.

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    Donald is likely hurrying this too quickly but USA has that right. They aren't even on the Continent. Their current influence on the matter amplifies where Europe has found itself.

    40 something years ago there was off record promise supposedly made. Something quote we won't expand NATO to your border. I believe this to be true

    There is a number of angles to take here. I am enjoying the Barca match at the Bar and could just keep throwing more Euros for War. Boys in War have no option. Is that not warped? Other people will make the call but I'm totally neutral.

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    Arms, funding, training, he and his "Afghan Arab" faction undoubtedly got that and more from us.
    no

    Good God you're ignorant.

    And that's your model for victory against Putin? What the do you think we've been doing the past three years?
    Eroding his capacity to make war, genius.

    Of course it is. Putin is winning despite $400B+ in Western aid to Ukraine. He's willing to take major casualties unlike the Soviet Union when in its dying days.
    How much has he spent?

    Ukraine is still willing to fight. I'm willing to help them. You want them to be exterminated by Putin.

    You're the worst kind of appeaser. No principles.

    We're just different that way.

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    Donald is likely hurrying this too quickly but USA has that right. They aren't even on the Continent. Their current influence on the matter amplifies where Europe has found itself.

    40 something years ago there was off record promise supposedly made. Something quote we won't expand NATO to your border. I believe this to be true

    There is a number of angles to take here. I am enjoying the Barca match at the Bar and could just keep throwing more Euros for War. Boys in War have no option. Is that not warped? Other people will make the call but I'm totally neutral.
    An off the record promise is not a promise.

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    no

    Good God you're ignorant.

    Eroding his capacity to make war, genius.


    How much has he spent?

    Ukraine is still willing to fight. I'm willing to help them. You want them to be exterminated by Putin.

    You're the worst kind of appeaser. No principles.

    We're just different that way.
    Tell yourself whatever you want.

    Zelensky is losing and he would have been better off negotiating two years ago just like general Mark Miley was calling for then.

    You know nothing. Your strategy failed and left Ukraine wrecked.

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    There is a number of angles to take here. I am enjoying the Barca match at the Bar and could just keep throwing more Euros for War. Boys in War have no option. Is that not warped? Other people will make the call but I'm totally neutral.
    Ukraine is arresting people in the street to throw them into the war. People have been killed trying to flee Ukraine to avoid conscription.

    By the way, I bet Chumpdumper would be fleeing his ass off if he were one of those poor lads.

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    Tell yourself whatever you want.

    Zelensky is losing and he would have been better off negotiating two years ago just like general Mark Miley was calling for then.

    You know nothing. Your strategy failed and left Ukraine wrecked.
    Which negotiated agreement has Putin kept?

    Give me your list.

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    Ukraine is arresting people in the street to throw them into the war. People have been killed trying to flee Ukraine to avoid conscription.

    By the way, I bet Chumpdumper would be fleeing his ass off if he were one of those poor lads.
    You want them to be rounded up and executed by the Russians.

    You sure as wouldn't fight for your home.

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    You want them to be rounded up and executed by the Russians.

    You sure as wouldn't fight for your home.
    I want a negotiated peace for Ukraine, you over emotional clown.

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    Which negotiated agreement has Putin kept?

    Give me your list.
    It doesn't ing matter if there are tens of thousands of Western troops backing up the agreement.

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    I want a negotiated peace for Ukraine, you over emotional clown.
    Which negotiated agreement has Putin kept?

    Give me your list.

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