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    Flagg
    Harper
    Edgecombe

    would obviously all be heists to get into the top 4 for. I'm also really intrigued with:

    McNeeley
    Flemming

    Lesser extent but still interesting:

    CMB
    Wolf
    Sorber
    Will Riley
    Kalkbrenner
    Joan Beringer
    Flagg, Harper and Edgecombe are given. if we get any combinations of those players.

    What I really don’t like, tweener PF/C who cannot defend the paint, worst who cannot shoot. Please, please, please for the love of God, no more Keldon, Sochan at PF.. haven’t Spurs learned their lesson?? Wemby WILL NEVER be heavy enough to bang with the likes of Zubac. He needs a full-size PF/C to help man the paint and will not clog the lane.

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    While I have no reason to doubt the Spurs and medical professionals (and the experience of BI and Ausar) and I believe Wemby will be back at full strength next year... I still think it would behoove us to prepare for the chance (no matter how slim) that Wemby doesn't come back or can't be relied upon to play 70 games + playoffs going forward and needs to be load managed.

    This doesn't mean trading him away or anything stupid like that... but more in terms that we should probably invest in a high quality big who can start at the 5 or just be a high end backup. I don't know if Maluach is that guy or not, or if that guy is even in this draft.

    I think this gets a lot easier to do if we somehow luck into Flagg. Because at point, I am filling the rest of the wing positions with 3&D role players anyway and should be able to devise a rotation that has two of Fox/Castle/Flagg/Wemby on the court at all times. That would be devastating for the league. I no longer need to find a wing with high end scoring upside (like a McNeeley) to make up for the deficiencies of the other wing position. So I want a guy who can step in if Wemby needs to miss games and for our team to still be a major threat with a core of Fox/Castle/Flagg. I don't need a world beater, but I need that guy to be a Duren/Claxton/Zubac/Jak level C who isn't going to be a glaring hole.

    This becomes a bigger challenge if we are picking 10 and 11... but it's still on my mind.

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    While I have no reason to doubt the Spurs and medical professionals (and the experience of BI and Ausar) and I believe Wemby will be back at full strength next year... I still think it would behoove us to prepare for the chance (no matter how slim) that Wemby doesn't come back or can't be relied upon to play 70 games + playoffs going forward and needs to be load managed.

    This doesn't mean trading him away or anything stupid like that... but more in terms that we should probably invest in a high quality big who can start at the 5 or just be a high end backup. I don't know if Maluach is that guy or not, or if that guy is even in this draft.

    I think this gets a lot easier to do if we somehow luck into Flagg. Because at point, I am filling the rest of the wing positions with 3&D role players anyway and should be able to devise a rotation that has two of Fox/Castle/Flagg/Wemby on the court at all times. That would be devastating for the league. I no longer need to find a wing with high end scoring upside (like a McNeeley) to make up for the deficiencies of the other wing position. So I want a guy who can step in if Wemby needs to miss games and for our team to still be a major threat with a core of Fox/Castle/Flagg. I don't need a world beater, but I need that guy to be a Duren/Claxton/Zubac/Jak level C who isn't going to be a glaring hole.

    This becomes a bigger challenge if we are picking 10 and 11... but it's still on my mind.
    Once again, in full agreement. Having a strong PF who could cover that position in small ball situations along with a serviceable C is the ideal next step scenario in building this roster.
    We've been playing Vassell at SF and Keldon at PF. Let that sink in. No where to go but up. Can we all just agree to get Naz Reid and Cooper Flagg as their replacements and add an imposing C and call it a day?

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    He doesn't do anything for me.
    He's a young athletic raw big man with good traits in a league that lacks quality bigs.

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    I still don’t know what people see in Malauch… i don’t think we can afford to draft an inept offensive player. It’s one thing to focus on defense and rebounding, but I don’t want to pair that skill with a zero on offense. Plus, we’ve seen what an all time defensive anchor can do for us on defense… that is, absolutely nothing if the wings and forwards are on defense.
    Yeah, make "us" 5.4 points per 100 possessions better (115.4 to 110.0), which is the difference between the 6th and 24th best defense.

    He's a young athletic raw big man with good traits in a league that lacks quality bigs.
    If you define bigs as center or combo/hybrid, then relatively speaking (although two-big lineups are making a comeback, there's still less of them than their used to be), there's more quality bigs than ever.

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    Yeah, make "us" 5.4 points per 100 possessions better (115.4 to 110.0), which is the difference between the 6th and 24th best defense.



    If you define bigs as center or combo/hybrid, then relatively speaking (although two-big lineups are making a comeback, there's still less of them than their used to be), there's more quality bigs than ever.
    I think that stat is being read into too much. He’s surrounded by talented offensive players that’s amplifying that stat. Is he helping those guys score by setting perfect screens? Maybe. That would be the only reason why that metric is above average since it sure isn’t his offensive talent. Nobody’s going to convince me that catching lobs is some sort of great offensive skill. Especially since it’s not a great fit on this team. He might get those the way Bassey gets it from Castle, but that’s about it.

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    I think that stat is being read into too much. He’s surrounded by talented offensive players that’s amplifying that stat. Is he helping those guys score by setting perfect screens? Maybe. That would be the only reason why that metric is above average since it sure isn’t his offensive talent. Nobody’s going to convince me that catching lobs is some sort of great offensive skill. Especially since it’s not a great fit on this team. He might get those the way Bassey gets it from Castle, but that’s about it.
    I was referencing the defensive impact of Wembanyama.

    There's a reason centers with limited offensive skills like Chandler, Jordan, Gobert and Capela had strong offensive metrics/impact in their prime: Good screeners who rim run and vertically space help create separation for ball handlers and open up weak side corners threes.

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    While I have no reason to doubt the Spurs and medical professionals (and the experience of BI and Ausar) and I believe Wemby will be back at full strength next year... I still think it would behoove us to prepare for the chance (no matter how slim) that Wemby doesn't come back or can't be relied upon to play 70 games + playoffs going forward and needs to be load managed.

    This doesn't mean trading him away or anything stupid like that... but more in terms that we should probably invest in a high quality big who can start at the 5 or just be a high end backup. I don't know if Maluach is that guy or not, or if that guy is even in this draft.

    I think this gets a lot easier to do if we somehow luck into Flagg. Because at point, I am filling the rest of the wing positions with 3&D role players anyway and should be able to devise a rotation that has two of Fox/Castle/Flagg/Wemby on the court at all times. That would be devastating for the league. I no longer need to find a wing with high end scoring upside (like a McNeeley) to make up for the deficiencies of the other wing position. So I want a guy who can step in if Wemby needs to miss games and for our team to still be a major threat with a core of Fox/Castle/Flagg. I don't need a world beater, but I need that guy to be a Duren/Claxton/Zubac/Jak level C who isn't going to be a glaring hole.

    This becomes a bigger challenge if we are picking 10 and 11... but it's still on my mind.
    Even before the Blood clout issue I was seeing that Wemby needs a legit backup one of my biggest concerns is when teams play him very physical he doesn't do to well. And we all know that when the Playoffs start the physicality goes up a couple of notches and there is not enough time to rest and take your foot of the pedal when your playing in a seven-game series.

    As far as this upcoming draft I hope for the best but would still be very happy if we landed McNeeley at SF and Flemings/Wolf at PF/C - Even if we land Naz I would still try to pick up a Center in the second round.

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    Even before the Blood clout issue I was seeing that Wemby needs a legit backup one of my biggest concerns is when teams play him very physical he doesn't do to well. And we all know that when the Playoffs start the physicality goes up a couple of notches and there is not enough time to rest and take your foot of the pedal when your playing in a seven-game series.

    As far as this upcoming draft I hope for the best but would still be very happy if we landed McNeeley at SF and Flemings/Wolf at PF/C - Even if we land Naz I would still try to pick up a Center in the second round.
    OKC saw the need to add high end size next to Chet in Hartenstein even after Chet had a completely healthy season. I wonder if we should be thinking the same.

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    OKC saw the need to add high end size next to Chet in Hartenstein even after Chet had a completely healthy season. I wonder if we should be thinking the same.
    Give me Naz, De Larrea or McNeely, and Fleming and I'm pretty happy.

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    Give me Naz, De Larrea or McNeely, and Fleming and I'm pretty happy.
    I think the odds are low to begin with... but I'm going to make this statement in hopes of inspiring the reverse jinx...

    Naz won't be coming here.

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    OKC saw the need to add high end size next to Chet in Hartenstein even after Chet had a completely healthy season. I wonder if we should be thinking the same.
    I don’t think Wemby can play PF he’s just too slow laterally at 7’5.

    Chet can somewhat move laterally similar to Mobley.

    I do think however Wemby needs a solid backup c (obvious) and a bigger stronger wing/forward starting next to him at the 4. Naz Reid, Rasheer Fleming, Aldama type. Even a PJ Washington is good.

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    Well the Spurs are finally embracing the Tank but man loosing twice to the worst NBA team is kinda embarrassing. But we just overtook Portland for the 9th pick and I legitimately think we can get as low as the 7th pick but can’t see us passing Philly.

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    Spurs odds of a top 4 up to 20% on Tankathon, jumped Portland.

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    Why do so many of you want Harper when we have Castle and Fox?

    We need wings

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    I don’t think Wemby can play PF he’s just too slow laterally at 7’5.

    Chet can somewhat move laterally similar to Mobley.

    I do think however Wemby needs a solid backup c (obvious) and a bigger stronger wing/forward starting next to him at the 4. Naz Reid, Rasheer Fleming, Aldama type. Even a PJ Washington is good.
    What universe did you see Wemby moving slow? Have you seen him covered the likes of Kyrie or Curry? What Wemby cannot guard are heavy strong C who puts weights on him like Zubac, Sengun, Embiid or Zion who use their weight. Wemby needs help depending those types and a tweener like Sochan will not do. Wemby has no problem guarding the likes of Giannis, Tatum, JJJ, long athletic players. Wemby eats them for breakfast.

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    Why do so many of you want Harper when we have Castle and Fox?

    We need wings
    Trade Vassell for a wing. Harper is going to be a beast, that's why.

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    Why do so many of you want Harper when we have Castle and Fox?

    We need wings
    if you think theres enough of a talent gap, you take the best player available and figure it out later. if you think theyre pretty close, then you can start looking at need/fit. harper has been phenomenal this year.

    would a starting unit of Fox/Harper/Castle work... dont know. but you figure out the rest later. maybe you move one down the line, but you take the more valuable guy now. kings drafted haliburton when they already had fox. haliburton was really good in sacto, and they ended up getting a good return for him. imagine kings had chosen a lesser player than haliburton because of their positional need and took a big like isaiah stewart instead. they'd have given up a ton of value in doing so.

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    Johni Broome might actually be my top prospect for Spurs second round pick. He isn't a sexy pick by being old and quite undersized but he just seems to be a good basketball player. There is a good probability he turns into a solid backup C in the NBA.

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    In no particular order, players I could see them targeting if the picks end up in the projected range and in the cases of some, they actually enter it: Malauch, Knueppel, McNeeley, Sorber, Richardson, Riley, Bryant, Penda.



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    Johni Broome might actually be my top prospect for Spurs second round pick. He isn't a sexy pick by being old and quite undersized but he just seems to be a good basketball player. There is a good probability he turns into a solid backup C in the NBA.
    Couldn’t we have said the same thing about Drew Timme?

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    Rutgers (Dylan Harper, Ace Baily) at Michigan (Danny Wolf) on Pea tonight at 8:00 central.

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    Rutgers (Dylan Harper, Ace Baily) at Michigan (Danny Wolf) on Pea tonight at 8:00 central.
    Thanks.

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    Not even slightly impressed by this Wolf guy

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    Not even slightly impressed by this Wolf guy
    Not his best night for sure. I'm more interested in the Harper/Bailey evaluations. There's some Brandon Miller in Bailey's game. He a much better fit here.

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