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    Essengue and Newell would fix the defense and length isssue. You can always sign some shooters.
    Fox, Vassell, Castle, Newell, Wemby
    Wesely, Branham, Essengue, Barnes, Sochan
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    Not his best night for sure. I'm more interested in the Harper/Bailey evaluations. There's some Brandon Miller in Bailey's game. He a much better fit here.
    Bailey makes a ton of sense on paper. The real question is the stuff between the ears.

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    Essengue and Newell would fix the defense and length isssue. You can always sign some shooters.
    Fox, Vassell, Castle, Newell, Wemby
    Wesely, Branham, Essengue, Barnes, Sochan
    If this is the actual 10 man rotation for next season Wemby should probably just go ahead and ask for a trade

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    Bailey makes a ton of sense on paper. The real question is the stuff between the ears.
    Why do you question his smarts?

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    Not even slightly impressed by this Wolf guy
    Not his best night. Still 10, 8 and 4 in the win column.

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    I'm an uncultured swine that really doesn't keep up with college ball. Is there anything close to a potential all-star low-post scoring big in this draft?

    We also need a wing who can shoot off the dribble and make 3s at a more-than-solid clip, but I would commit a series of murders for a young, talented, traditional big.

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    Why do you question his smarts?
    Because he's 18, pretty much single minded gunner right now, and at least one of the profiles on him suggest that "feel for the game and basketball IQ are a work in progress." It's not dispositive obviously -- lots of prospects will be dinged on "feel," so the real question is character, etc.

    https://www.nbadraft.net/players/ace-bailey/

    I say all this, but Bailey is still my top non-Cooper pick.

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    I'm an uncultured swine that really doesn't keep up with college ball. Is there anything close to a potential all-star low-post scoring big in this draft?

    We also need a wing who can shoot off the dribble and make 3s at a more-than-solid clip, but I would commit a series of murders for a young, talented, traditional big.
    Do you have a Time Machine? You’ll need one to find a league in which such a player is relevant.

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    I'm an uncultured swine that really doesn't keep up with college ball. Is there anything close to a potential all-star low-post scoring big in this draft?

    We also need a wing who can shoot off the dribble and make 3s at a more-than-solid clip, but I would commit a series of murders for a young, talented, traditional big.
    Maybe Queen is as close as you’ll get. I think he’s underrated even through mocks have him going around 10-12.

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    Do you have a Time Machine? You’ll need one to find a league in which such a player is relevant.
    Joker is not exactly locked to shooting jumpers exclusively.


    Maybe Queen is as close as you’ll get. I think he’s underrated even through mocks have him going around 10-12.
    Will check him out, thank you.

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    Joker is not exactly locked to shooting jumpers exclusively.




    Will check him out, thank you.
    I actually think he might be the worthy of the 5 pick but that's not a popular opinion right now because his game is old school.
    I'd be thrilled for us to pick him up around the 9-12 picks.

    My top 5 BPA list right now:
    1. Flagg
    2. Harper
    3. Edgecombe
    4. Bailey
    5. Queen

    I'm split on Maluach or Tre Johnson for the #6 spot
    I'm down on Jakucionis and Knueppel, I don't think their games will translate well to the league so I hope other teams burn early picks on them.

    As for guys likely to be available around #9-12, I like Queen, McNeely, and Newell.
    Queen and McNeely would contribute immediately.
    Newell is more of a project but a very promising one.

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    Interesting thread topic on reddit... essentially "what is your worst case scenario for the draft?"

    Below is what I came up with. What is your worst case scenario?

    Spurs finish with the 10th lottery seeding, Atlanta makes the playoffs. Someone jumps ahead of us in the lottery and we end up with picks #11 and #15.

    At 11, Knueppel, McNeeley, Newell, Tre Johnson, Maluach have all been picked. We have one of Fears/Traore on the top of our board and take one of them. A non-shooting PG who at best will be a backup to Fox for the duration of Swipa's contract.

    At 15, CMB, Fleming, Essengue have been picked ahead of us. We're left to choose between Derik Queen, Hugo Gonzales, Ben Saraf, Egor Demin. Again, all non-shooters. Saraf and Demin have some playmaking capabilities that interest me, and maybe Demin can slot in as a playmaking SF, but it doesn't really fit what we need.

    This would be my worst case scenario. We'll still have added some talent to our team (which is never a bad thing), but it will be in spots where these guys are going to take some considerable time to develop into real contributors to our team and we will have not addressed our biggest needs.

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    Joker is not exactly locked to shooting jumpers exclusively.
    What you described was NOT Joker. He is most certainly not a traditional low post big. He’s a one off, the same way Wemby is, but sure, if you find exactly Joker II, you draft him. Doubt you find him in college, though. Joker’s game s pure Euro.

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    Interesting thread topic on reddit... essentially "what is your worst case scenario for the draft?"

    Below is what I came up with. What is your worst case scenario?

    Spurs finish with the 10th lottery seeding, Atlanta makes the playoffs. Someone jumps ahead of us in the lottery and we end up with picks #11 and #15.

    At 11, Knueppel, McNeeley, Newell, Tre Johnson, Maluach have all been picked. We have one of Fears/Traore on the top of our board and take one of them. A non-shooting PG who at best will be a backup to Fox for the duration of Swipa's contract.

    At 15, CMB, Fleming, Essengue have been picked ahead of us. We're left to choose between Derik Queen, Hugo Gonzales, Ben Saraf, Egor Demin. Again, all non-shooters. Saraf and Demin have some playmaking capabilities that interest me, and maybe Demin can slot in as a playmaking SF, but it doesn't really fit what we need.

    This would be my worst case scenario. We'll still have added some talent to our team (which is never a bad thing), but it will be in spots where these guys are going to take some considerable time to develop into real contributors to our team and we will have not addressed our biggest needs.
    I think taking Traore with our first pick would piss me off the most, followed by Demin. Reaching for Newell with our first pick if CMB and Fleming were both on the board in position to be taken with our second pick.

    If we land a top 4 pick, taking KJ would make me melt down.

    If we took both Kon and McNeeley, I'd be pretty annoyed, but not nearly as annoyed as rascal.

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    If this is the actual 10 man rotation for next season Wemby should probably just go ahead and ask for a trade
    What is the solution ?

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    Essengue and Newell would fix the defense and length isssue. You can always sign some shooters.
    Fox, Vassell, Castle, Newell, Wemby
    Wesely, Branham, Essengue, Barnes, Sochan
    Essengue is just a raw as Risacher, so he would not contribute right away. Potential is there, but he is a project.
    Branham, Weasley in rotation, not backup C. Where is Keldon ? Sold for future protected 2nd ?

    It's bad, very bad

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    Yeah, really looking to see what happens this summer a big question will be what will they do with Keldon and Vassell? Also, what is going to happen with Cp3 and Barnes, will we resign CP, and what do we do with Barnes on his last year will he be part of a trade?

    Another issue is that we need to find at least two new bigs this summer as Collins is gone and Bassey knees are huge red flags that can no longer be ignored. As far as Blake and Branham I have seen enough they just are not cutting it and it is time to move on.

    If it was me I would go ahead and have Fox have his surgery and I would want to try to do the following;

    1. Find out if Castle can handle full time PG duties?
    2. Try and push up the trade value of Vassell, Keldon, Branham, and Blake

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    Guys

    How did the win today affect our standings?

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    Guys

    How did the win today affect our standings?
    It didnt tbh. Still 9th, we need to root for Bulls, Portland to keep winning and Hawks to keep losing. I doubt Spurs would be better than 8 and 9 in odds.

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    It didnt tbh. Still 9th, we need to root for Bulls, Portland to keep winning and Hawks to keep losing. I doubt Spurs would be better than 8 and 9 in odds.
    Thanks Sir

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    The general consensus about this draft seems to be that the top 5 picks are in a tier of their own, and then picks 6 through 20 are all roughly the same tier.

    That makes it even more imperative that at least one of our two lottery picks lands somewhere in the top 4. Right now, the odds of that happening are about 1 in 3.

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    Michigan vs Illinois right now:
    Wolf, Kasparas Jackucionis, Will Riley, and the better Ivisic brother.

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    Poor defense and has largely been ineffective all game —> Wolf

    bUt I dOnT wAtCH tHe GaMeS according to the guy who only watches highlights John B

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    Michigan’s coach has had to sit Wolf down because he’s been such a massive liability on defense.

    but this is the guy who’s going to help the Spurs

    the same Spurs team that struggles heavily on defense and having opposing teams going on 20-0 runs against them because of the poor perimeter defense

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    Michigan’s coach has had to sit Wolf down because he’s been such a massive liability on defense.

    but this is the guy who’s going to help the Spurs

    the same Spurs team that struggles heavily on defense and having opposing teams going on 20-0 runs against them because of the poor perimeter defense
    Wolf has been pretty bad this game and in the Rutgers game. On the bright side today, though, Kasparas looks great, and Riley is much improved since earlier in the season. I really like both guys, albeit at different draft positions.

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