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We prefer un-athletic dumbos.... it wouldn't be fair otherwise..
If Queen was White and European he would be getting more hype. Some team will fall in love with him and he will go top 10. Hope it’s the Spurs and not the Thunder. If the Thunder get him it’s goodnight in the West.
We prefer un-athletic dumbos.... it wouldn't be fair otherwise..
One thing I like to look is how they start the season but more importantly how they finish the season to me March is a important month as far as looking at development and potential. I really wanted to see how Knueppel played in March and so far he has exceeded my expectations he really is having a very good month he would not be a sexy pick but would not be a bad pick.
What draft picks do the Thunder have coming from other teams?
They have the 76ers pick top 6 protected
If you check out my draft take on Vassell, it’s still relevant today— i wasn’t a fan because he took so many ill-advised shots in college, thinking he’s Kobe. He’s pretty much the very definition of the type of player that should be avoided in this draft. Everyone thought we had a real 3 and D guy with Vassell in that draft year, some even thought he had Kawhi-like potential. So yeah, Vassell is pretty much a dumbo.
as far as Sochan goes, he was not a dumbo but his expected skill development hasn’t caught up to equalize what he lacks. I’m not saying to go for low skill, smart guys anyway. In terms of priority: it should be IQ first, skill second, athleticism last. The group that the Spurs have collected has been picked from lower lottery or late of first round, so it’s slim pickings as far as IQ+skill guys go. Tre Jones is another guy who was productive who clearly had a higher IQ than most of the other guys, and some skill to go with it, but just not enough skill to be a mainstay on the Spurs. The Spurs need to keep going in that direction and find guys with high IQ and high skill, because it’s way more likely we’ll have a keeper than if they went the other way.
Carter Bryant at the 3 with Sochan at the 4 might be the move. I’d take Bryant at 9 his hs tape is enough for me. He’s basically Jalen Johnson.
Doubt Bryant goes that high, but he should be in the discussion with the Atlanta pick.
We're on the same page here... I was only calling out the notion of not drafting any "more" high-athleticism, low IQ players... since we haven't drafted any of those guys. Vassell is a low-IQ, mid-athleticism guy, for example. Low-IQ, high athleticism might actually be an improvement over some of our guys
For fun…We're on the same page here... I was only calling out the notion of not drafting any "more" high-athleticism, low IQ players... since we haven't drafted any of those guys. Vassell is a low-IQ, mid-athleticism guy, for example. Low-IQ, high athleticism might actually be an improvement over some of our guys
rating IQ, Skill, and Athleticism
low/mid/high are the possible grades
Vassell
Low IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Castle
Mid IQ
High Skill
High Athleticism
Wemby
Mid IQ - yeah, for the absurd shot selection
High Skill
High Athleticism
Sochan
Mid IQ
Low Skill
Mid Athleticism
Keldon
Low IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Paul
High IQ
High Skill
Low Athleticism
Barnes
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Fox
High IQ
Mid Skill
High Athleticism
Could maybe trade back for some draft capital. You know Brian wants to replenish his assets.
IMO…
Flagg
Mid IQ
High Skill
High Athleticism
Harper
High IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Ace
Low IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Edgecombe
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
High Athleticism
Kon
High IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Queen
Mid IQ
High Skill
Mid Athleticism
Fleming
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
High Athleticism
Tre Johnson
Low IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Kasparas
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
CMB
High IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Egor
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Wolf
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
Low Athleticism
Riley
Mid IQ
Mid Skill
Mid Athleticism
Malauch
Mid IQ
Low Skill
Mid Athleticism
Last edited by Dejounte; 03-15-2025 at 03:55 PM.
How are you defining skill?
You have Kon and Vassell having the same athleticism rating? On this scale kon is low athleticism
Vassell is barely athletic enough to create any separation from his defender, so whether he jumps higher than Kon doesn’t matter. Vassell is also a twig who gets pushed around. Kon is stronger than him and can take contact.
ill answer mo later
Wolf
Mid IQ
Mid Skillwith guard skills for a 7 footer, mid skills???
Low Athleticism - this is underrated. He covers perimeter pretty well. He’s not dunking but it doesn’t mean he’s unathletic
Nice game for both Queen and Wolf. Michigan won with passing game 17 assists.
Wolf 21, 14 with 5 ORebs, 4 assists
Queen 31 pts 3 rebounds (not much for his size)
Next up Wisconsin.
fleming had to lose sum value last few games.Just didnt make a difference for his team.Gotta be a late
first or second round pick.Danny wolf probably the best big over queen and fleming
Queen 31 pts, some huge buckets down the stretch and clutch free throws. Wanted the ball with the game on the line. They lost but another impressive performance
For me the Hawks pick is coming down to Fleming or Carter Bryant. One of those two I would be happy.
With the Spurs own pick if it stays in the 8-10 range I’m leaning towards CMB.
I do like Kon but to me he’s a 2 guard and he’s gonna measure in at 6’5 without shoes with short reach. We just used a top 4 pick on a 2 guard last year, you could role with Fox-Castle-Kon sharing the 1-2 minutes but the Spurs have bigger needs. Kon will have a solid career I think.
Bailey on the Spurs would be absolutely amazing. If we don't get Flagg, he would be an amazing consolation prize.
It's not his athleticism that's the problem, it's his size and length (or lack thereof). I do like him a lot, though. I think he's just a really good basketball player.
Did he though? They got the jump on Illinois early and never really looked back. The knock on him is the lateral quickness on that side, which will be a problem in the NBA. But, like a Sengun, the offensive talent is undeniable.
I really don’t mind Queen. The Spurs desperately need a big body inside. He kinda remind me of Z-Bo, big body slightly undersized but can bully inside. He shoots 70% FT so hopefully that translates to long range. He got two from downtown tonight
Carter Bryant and Hugo Gonzales should be the picks. Dynamic players who are impactful without anything built around them.
He's at the top of my wish list.
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