I’d be all for getting KD for Vassell + Keldon if that’s all it took. I wouldn’t even extend KD right away, I’d just let him expire and look at the trade as a way to get off Dev and Keldon’s money. Maybe you resign KD using his bird rights, maybe you don’t.
Yeah I really only want him if it's a fleecing, like Friendship Crew (Evin & Kelon) plus either the lesser 2025 or maybe the 2029 pick. And only if our ty private equity owners are willing to pay hefty luxury tax for a year since the last year of a KD 2 year extension would coincide with the first year of a Wemby supermax.
Don't think KD is going for that at all. It would be seen as super disrespectful for the Spurs to trade for KD just to not pay him and would really hurt the team with other players' agents. If the Spurs are trading for KD it's going to be with a two year 35% max extension most likely.
Then I’m out.
I think you can salary dump Evin and Kelon without pissing off every agent in the league. Would make a world of difference if it was just a one year extension so we didn't have to worry about paying two supermaxes for one year in 27-28.
A lot of these older guys (LeBron, Harden) like doing what are efffectively 1+1 deals every year… KD may be open to that.
KD isn’t worth it if we have to commit to him for more than one year at a time, IMO. I’m operating under the assumption that our ownership is going to want to stay below the tax line for as long as possible, so I see 3 years of a max KD deal as a pretty significant restriction on our ability to do anything else. We’d still be okay by the league’s cap rules, but probably not by the Spurs ownership financial requirements.
1+1 still puts the Spurs in the same bad situation with regards to 27-28 since KD is under contract for $54 million for 25-26 so that +1 is effectively a player option supermax for the 27-28 year Wemby's likely supermax starts.
They always seem to opt out of the second year, because a new 35% max is bigger than the second year of a 35% + 8% max raise. That would be the idea here.
That would be KD's age 39 year when he has probably fallen off hard and wouldn't get anything close to a 35% max offer in free agency. No one else is going to age like LeBron. , 36 YO KD is aging worse than 40 YO LeBron.
Last edited by baseline bum; 03-18-2025 at 03:14 PM.
Sounds like a good reason to not trade for him.
Would have loved to see KD make a swing through San Antonio during his great nomadic career, but count me out at this point. His defensive effort is nonexistent and I'm not convinced he'll be enough of a + player next year to sacrifice minutes that could be going to a better long term bet.
Yeah…let the Suns wallow in the sh!tshow they’ve created. Spurs shouldn’t help bail them out. PHX will run on the treadmill of mediocrity until Durant’s days are over.
I don't think trading them Evin and Kelon would be bailing them out tbh. I'd only give them one first though: either the lesser 2025 or the 2029 pick, assuming the ownership group committed to paying a lot of of tax for the 27-28 season before KD's deal came off the books.
Last edited by baseline bum; 03-18-2025 at 05:34 PM.
I'd prioritize trying to get Naz Reid or Santi Aldama over KD at this point. He'd be option # 3 for a tall forward this summer.
I'd love to have them but the Spurs have no capspace to chase Reid and instead of Aldama I think I'd rather hire his Finnish assistant coach in Memphis to be head coach here and install that offense that is making Aldama look so impressive.
Would love Naz, or Santi, or both... I think both guys stay with their current teams though.
they'd have to land Reid in a sign and trade. we do have contracts we could offload to create space
Spurs will probably be near the cap after their two draft picks, so I'm guessing they'd have to clear about $33-$41 million in capspace to sign him outright, depending on where those picks fall. Otherwise they have no leverage unless Reid so badly wants out of Minnesota that he'd go sign in Brooklyn, which is probably unlikely given he wanted to stay in Minnesota so badly he took a paycut on his last contract.
obviously in a sign and trade, just like an outright signing, you need the player to want to join your team. that goes without saying.
post fox trade, the dreams of signing anybody notable outright were more or less gone. we'd have the MLE, thats it. would have to be s&T to land somebody good like reid or even aldama.
No you need more, you need the player wanting out so badly he's willing to sign in Brooklyn to try force Minnesota's hand
In the Wolves' case, the whole reason they will have to let Reid walk is that they can't afford to keep him. That also means they wouldn't be able to afford to take in players making similar salary, so I can't see them doing a Reid S&T unless a team with cap space (iirc only the Nets will have an appreciable amount) absorbs a contract, which only pushes the price that Reid's new team has to pay.
Three team trade. We get Naz, BKN gets ending contracts and some seconds. BKN conveys some nearly useless asset to MIN. We send a protected FRP to MIN, maybe something like CHI sent us for DeRozan, also a sign and trade, 1-10,1-8,1-8.
or if its just Reid wanting to play somewhere else
with that said he has a pretty nice gig in minnesota
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