Careful you might start liking this guy
It’s too late. That’s who I want with our second pick. He has size, finishes with both hands, has touch around the rim, can handle the ball, makes smart decisions, and knows how to play offensively. He’s just what I want for our back up big.Careful you might start liking this guy
Nah he intrigues me a lot with his skills and knowledge. It’s the athleticism that suspect. But he’s still 7 footer 250 lbs and he’s still going to be NBA strong. As other posters say, I rather Spurs get a smart player. Because that Beautiful Game only works with “smart players” and could hide the less athletic ones
Curious at what leads you to believing Bailey is a terrible fit. Seems one of the most natural fits of this entire draft, tbh.
Reports said they were higher than consensus on last year's draft too, tbh
The lack of physicality and strength.
I’m of the opinion that we should compensate the lack of bulk we’ll never have at our starting C position (because of Wemby) with both of our forward spots.
Now I’m not saying that there won’t be players I’ll want that don’t meet that criteria— i’m not a fan of Ace’s playstyle in general, kind of reminds me of Jerami Grant or Kelly Oubre Jr.
Don’t forget that he’s a bit of a black hole, with a fractional asst/TO ratio. That doesn’t seem very Spursy.
Now thinking about it… my description for tier 4 and 5 could be swapped tbh… with Demin going to the other tier like:
Tier 4 - talented, but I have serious concerns
Bailey - lack of strength and physicality as I said before
Tre Johnson - boneheaded shot maker that we probably don’t need
Demin - might be way too passive to make a difference
Tier 5 - talented, but the fit is terrible
Queen - defense concerns
Wolf - might occupy the same spots as Wemby / hard to game plan an offense with Wolf taking the same spots as Wemby
I like this k-nipple kid!
Gonna write notes for the rest of the players for the of it. Not gonna do the tier 1 because it’s obvious.
Tier 2 - Oozing talent
Kon -I think the Spurs are constantly looking for winning players, and Kon fits that definition to the T.
VJ Edgecombe - the combination of defense and athleticism is just too good to pass up
Jase Richardson - i know our backcourt is crowded but if you have a chance to draft a potential all star that plays a little bit like Maxey, you do it.
Tier 3 - Talented & decent fit
Fleming - the combination of strength, length, and shooting is too good to pass up. Our lineup needs length (without sacrificing speed) in a way very few can provide in this draft
Carter Bryant - almost same as the above. Not as strong, however. I do fear that this guy is just another Isaiah Roby though.
CMB - this is like taking another shot at another (more defensive-minded) Luka Samanic, but obviously a better chance of hitting since Samanic’s immaturity level was otherworldly
Saraf - this guy is a flat out hooper. His bag on the offensive end is sick. I’m not putting all my eggs in this basket but i’m just impressed by what he can do on offense.
Tier 6a - High risk, high reward
De Larrea - vision is nice, can shoot the 3. But, at his height he should be able to breakdown his man more often on offense. It makes me feel like his ballhandling is not good enough.
Hugo - he’s here because of his defense and his offense is nothing to write home about. If he’s somehow a great 3 and D prospect and can be a better version of Champagnie, that would be great. Perimeter defense is a great need and that’s why he’s here.
Noa - this man is physical as evidenced by his high free throw rate and I think I’ve said enough about how we need a lot of players like that on the team.
Tier 6b - Safe picks
Riley - cant go wrong with a shooter who can also handle the ball some
Kasparas - cant go wrong with a playmaker who has had good experience already leading his team
Maluach - I feel bigs are easy to showcase in the league, especially if they’re above average like Malauch is. Just see how well Biyombo’s doing with us.
Tier 7 - Meh
Asa Newell - I don’t see him being that versatile with how poor of a shooter he is and how stiff he is as a perimeter defender
Fears - i think he’ll need the ball too much to truly be effective here
Traore - same as Fears
Tier 8 - Bust
McNeeley - scrub
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VJ with a disappointing game vs Duke… too little too late. Didn’t show enough fire the whole game. I’m not one to write off any player after one game though.
appreciate these write-ups
of course everybody will have their own tweaks and preferences, but these are the parts i disagree with the most:
- i think you are vastly overrating Kon (and he's a guy i'd be content with taking if we wind up around pick 9-10). having him in the "oozing talent" category is just a misread imo. he's a pretty limited player who is the beneficiary of playing on a loaded team. he constantly finds himself getting the ball in advantageous positions, with a defender having to close out on him. with that said, he's very effective in those situations as an advantage-exploiter. he is a very accurate and consistent shooter, and he has enough ball skills to beat closeouts. my concern is whether he has the athleticism to do the same at the NBA level. the shooting will be fine, but im not convinced he's going to be much of a player inside the 3pt line at the NBA level. but unlike McNeeley, he constantly makes correct decisions. he's also probably the worst defender in their lineup and benefits by having 2 of the best help defenders in the class behind him in Flagg and Maluach while Proctor and James take on the more difficult assignments.
i would place Nipple in the "safe picks" category. he's going to be a playable reserve 2. hopefully he has enough length/ability to become belinelli offensively to make up for the defense. all the compe iveness in the world doesnt matter if you are as woefully unathletic as he is, and he's going to defend guards. too small to defend forwards. if you are expecting derrick white type outcomes, i dont see it. but lord knows the spurs need a legitimate sniper. champagnie being 36% aint it. vassell below 37% for his career aint it. barnes has been lethal from the corner, but thats most of his production. more than half of his 3pa are from the corner, and he's nailing 48% of those. outside the corner, hes 3p% is closer to 36% as well
- i put Jace in the "talented but i have concerns" tier. guy can shoot and score. the playmaking isnt there. the defense isnt there. the size isnt there. the athleticism is decent enough but doesnt stand out like his dad. all in all he's probably an undersized 2. to me, he's a worse prospect than dillingham was who showed actual point guard chops. but he's a bit bigger than dilly so maybe he survives as a bite-sized 2. but what's his fit next to Fox... i dont see it.
- CMB is not a decent fit. his role is highly redundant with sochan. we dont need another tweener forward who defends the perimeter and struggles with the outside shot. CMB offensively plays like a hub, something like Julius randle. i think thats a very poor fit for the spurs given what we have. i think his talent exceeds his fit, and i have questions about his talent as an undersized interior player without an outside shot. i put him in the "talented but terrible fit" tier
- bailey is in the oozing talent category. and he's a good fit as well. to me he's the clear #3 on the spurs big board.
i dont hate mcneeley... but yes it was an incredibly rough stretch to finish his freshman campaign. still, i think his struggles came from Uconn not really having any good on-ball players and asking more of him than he was reasonably equpped to handle.
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If the Spurs land in the projected range and as expected the likes of Maluach, Knueppel, Jakucionis and Johnson (doubt they'd select him either way) are gone, I suspect Richardson followed by McNeeley are the most likely picks.
Should they declare, Bryant, Sorber, Riley, Beringer, Penda, Powell, Condon, Fleming (more so hope, as they've always avoided this archetype) are others I could see them having interest in, but with the Hawks pick.
Can't see them selecting another poor - non shooting primary/secondary creator (Fears, Traore, Demin, Gonzalez, Saraf) or another poor - non shooting big who isn't a defensive anchor (Murray-Boyles, Queen, Newell, Essengue, Wolf).
i agree with most of this. though i dont know that they'll value Jase very much
I see Richardson as mostly as a combination of process of elimination, fit and archetype that they've traditionally been attracted to.
I don't see a no brainer, so maybe in part because of that, they throw caution to the wind and just go pure talent play with a Fears or Demin or whoever, but high floor/moderate to low ceiling > than low floor/moderate to high ceiling at this stage.
Some bad tape for Jakucionis today. Has gotten eaten up on the defensive end all game and has more than twice as many turnovers than assists.
im not saying he's cooked as a prospect, but theres always going to be a question mark when it comes to translating games of guys who are simply meh athlets, particulary when they're supposed to be initiators/creators. but he has solid size as evidenced by his rebounding (similar to Podz), so there are still plenty of pathways for success. as with basically every perimeter prospect, shooting will go a long way with him
He's smaller than we'd all like... but what about Nique Clifford as a possibility with the ATL pick? What are the cases for and against?
How about Proctor in round 2?
wouldnt mind that
Good lord Derik Queen. Stock up.
Derik Queen with the Legendary game Winner. I don’t think he even makes to the spurs at this point unless they move up into top 4.
He’s a non-shooting big who isn’t particularly effective around the rim, and isn’t a rim protector. He will not going in the top 4, game winner or no, and he’ll be very lucky to go in the top 10.
Queen telling the coach he wants the ball during the timeout. He has that Dawg in him. Dude is an offensive Juggernaut. Sign me up. He will develop into a star.
So if the Spurs luck into the #2 pick are you taking Harper despite already having Fox and Castle?
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