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    who are all these successful 6'4 forwards in the NBA?
    Charles Barkley checkmate

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    This team doesn’t need another hero-baller who cannot fall in line. Unless it’s Flagg or Harper. Spurs need solid role players. They already have Wemby, Fox and Castle. They don’t need another Devin or Keldon who have channel visions.
    Brother, I'm fine with that... but the team you constructed that I was replying to looks like it would be quite terrible

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    A fun hobby is to look at player comps of white dudes... they are usually just other white dudes

    Knueppel: Hayward, Sczerbiak, Fournier, Kennard
    It’s lame and folks who do that have no creative thought

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    A fun hobby is to look at player comps of white dudes... they are usually just other white dudes

    Knueppel: Hayward, Sczerbiak, Fournier, Kennard
    Hope they didn't pull that with Flagg. When I see him I think Sheed with a motor.

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    Hope they didn't pull that with Flagg. When I see him I think Sheed with a motor.
    Flagg: Pippen, Shawn Marion, Tatum, Batum, AK47
    Kasparas: Dinwiddie, Delon Wright, Bogdan, Podziemski
    Demin: Livingston, Kyle Anderson, Bolmaro, Avdija, Giddey

    Looks like only Kon got the white boy treatment in this one

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    Flagg: Pippen, Shawn Marion, Tatum, Batum, AK47
    Kasparas: Dinwiddie, Delon Wright, Bogdan, Podziemski
    Demin: Livingston, Kyle Anderson, Bolmaro, Avdija, Giddey

    Looks like only Kon got the white boy treatment in this one
    I don't get all the Pippen comparisons I see for Flagg. Feels like they're just lazy ways to say they don't think Flagg can be a #1 on a le team. Because I don't think Pippen at all watching Flagg. Looks like a straight PF not someone to play point and put on the other team's best guard. Marion and Batum I can def see though very rich man versions of those two.

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    I don't get all the Pippen comparisons I see for Flagg. Feels like they're just lazy ways to say they don't think Flagg can be a #1 on a le team. Because I don't think Pippen at all watching Flagg. Looks like a straight PF not someone to play point and put on the other team's best guard. Marion and Batum I can def see though very rich man versions of those two.
    It just brought me a minor bout of temporary depression to realize that I don't really remember Pippen's game all that well at this point

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    It just brought me a minor bout of temporary depression to realize that I don't really remember Pippen's game all that well at this point
    My biggest memory of Scottie is him bodying up Magic the whole 94 feet in the 91 Finals after the Bulls pulled Jordan off him when the Lakers took Game 1. Plus Laker fans rushing the floor for Michael and Scottie when they won Game 5 in The Forum. Only time I have ever seen that when the road team wins a le.

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    Charles Barkley checkmate
    Barkley is 6'6.

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    And 5’5 Wide

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    I see a bit of Bobby Jones, I'm an old-timer, in Flagg. The kind of player that can fit in anywhere and makes every one better.
    Flagg has more offensive upside, but, they have a similar size and shooting touch.

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    Barkley was most likely 6'4.5-6'5.5 without shoes.

    Modern day answer would probably be Jalen Williams who measured 6'4.5" without shoes at the draft combine.

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    Barkley was most likely 6'4.5-6'5.5 without shoes.

    Modern day answer would probably be Jalen Williams who measured 6'4.5" without shoes at the draft combine.
    williams is also very athletic with a 7'2 wingspan. using him as the basis to say Kon can play the 3 is very dubious. j-dub is very much an exception

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    my problem is CMB doesnt shoot from outside, and his game is very post oriented, like you have to run stuff through him for him to really be effective. i think in that respect, the Randle comparisons are apt (of course, he can change/improve his game), and Randle has always been an awkward fit. to his credit, CMB projects to be a much much better defender than Randle
    I don't know man, if you told me I could get a lower usage non basketball-terrorist version of Randle on offense who picks his spots and gives you borderline all-defense level defense on the other end, that's a of a pick in the mid-lottery. Actually, that's literally Millsap.

    And I agree with you, I don't think you can rely on him for high volume post scoring at his size, it's not a style that works in the modern NBA especially at his size. What I do buy is his drive and face-up game with his handle and size. I don't actually view him as Sochan replacement, but more like a bigger, stronger, more athletic high IQ version of Keldon. Interestingly, aside from his low 3P volume, the rest of his touch indicators (FT shooting, midrange %, touch around the rim) are either comparable to or exceed that of Keldon, and he's about 2 months older than Keldon during their respective draft seasons.

    Ultimately, I'm thinking of the long game with CMB. Any 19-20 year old we draft this year probably won't be a high leverage playoff starter until at least age 23-24 when Fox will be over 30 and his speed starts declining. If I can get an advantage creator from the PF slot who can also be a perfect defensive complement to Wemby by guarding the perimeter and the paint, that allows me to draft more limited 3 and D guards to start next to Castle - these are types you can usually find in the mid to late first, which is where I anticipate the Spurs will draft going into the latter half of the decade. It doesn't solve the biggest immediate problem which is shooting, but it solves a lot of other future problems that might be just as important.

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    williams is also very athletic with a 7'2 wingspan. using him as the basis to say Kon can play the 3 is very dubious. j-dub is very much an exception
    Yeah standing reach, wingspan, weights are just as important as height when assessing positional size. Jalen Williams also has a 8’9.5 standing reach which is massive for a 6’4.5 height. Most 6’7-6’8 guys have standing reaches around that mark. He’s easily a 3 in todays NBA.

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    williams is also very athletic with a 7'2 wingspan. using him as the basis to say Kon can play the 3 is very dubious. j-dub is very much an exception
    Oh my bad, didn't read the entire thread, didn't realize we were using this as the basis for arguing for Kon haha. Yeah agreed, JDub is nothing like Kon in spite of their heights.

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    For a shooting-starved team, I'm wondering if it's worth taking a second round flyer on a defensively limited flamethrower / shooting specialist.

    Looking at Walter Clayton Jr for this year - short (6'2-6'3) and old (senior, 22), so most likely will go in the second round

    Career 88% FT, 39% from 3
    This year - jacking up 14 3P/100, shooting 39% on 3s when almost half of them are self-created, 42% from midrange on entirely self-created looks, 86% from the line.
    Mediocre (not terrible) career STL%, and 6 dunks for the year is not bad for a 6'3" shooting prospect, and >1.5 AST:TO for all 4 years in college indicates his feel is at least decent

    I'm looking at what Malik Beasley has done for Detroit this year in spite of his horrific defense just by jacking up and making a high volume of 3s. Taking Walter Clayton Jr 2nd round is in my opinion a much better bet than taking Jordan Hawkins lottery or Malik Beasley mid-first.

    https://www.tankathon.com/players/co...yton-pritchard

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    Pop would love his Forbes replacement

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    Pop would love his Forbes replacement
    Bryce Cotton and Jack McClinton walked so Patty Mills, Bryn Forbes and Gary Neal could run.

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    Pop would love his Forbes replacement
    Knueppel

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    After how disappointing Vassell has been as an NBA defender and how unremarkable in event creation and otherwise Sochan has been, I don't want any college player whose number one asset is defense, because I don't buy it translating as much as it needs to. Both Vassell and Sochan were hyped as the best defenders in their class, and the Spurs defense has been garbage and wasn't even that great with Wemby.

    No thanks on CMB for me.

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    After how disappointing Vassell has been as an NBA defender and how unremarkable in event creation and otherwise Sochan has been, I don't want any college player whose number one asset is defense, because I don't buy it translating as much as it needs to. Both Vassell and Sochan were hyped as the best defenders in their class, and the Spurs defense has been garbage and wasn't even that great with Wemby.

    No thanks on CMB for me.
    They are top 5 with both Sochan and Wemby starting per cleaning the glass.

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    Spurs defense being ass is mostly due to coaching

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    Hope they didn't pull that with Flagg. When I see him I think Sheed with a motor.
    i comp flagg to banchero.

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    My biggest memory of Scottie is him bodying up Magic the whole 94 feet in the 91 Finals after the Bulls pulled Jordan off him when the Lakers took Game 1. Plus Laker fans rushing the floor for Michael and Scottie when they won Game 5 in The Forum. Only time I have ever seen that when the road team wins a le.
    Are you serious? That's the ultimate sign of a bandwagon fan/s.

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