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    I don’t want a deer, either. I consider Bailey to nearly fall in this category, with his horrible asst/TO ratio. Do not want. I hated Cam Reddish when he came out, and that’s the vibe I get from Bailey, the scary low floor. I just think with our last lotto pick for a while, we should take a swing. We’ll have plenty of time for high IQ safe picks when we’re stuck in the 20s for a decade or more.

    It’s funny, because this board used to about drafting high IQ, high character guys, and passing on athletes. Now, the board es about drafting raw athletic prospects, and wants high IQ guys. Basically, this board hates however the team currently drafts.
    Just curious who we've drafted that you consider to fall in this category? DJM and Lonnie are the only two that come to mind for me. I'm mostly tired of drafting the raw, mid-athleticism, low IQ guys.

    The last two drafts have been wonderful, but that I suppose is the benefit of picking at the top. But I think the folks who point to our development staff as the problem, more so than the scouting staff, are probably right. Devin, Jeremy, Bran, Blake and heck even Primo are all picks I'm okay with... they just haven't developed enough for my liking (I recognize that your post was not about me, just sharing my opinion here).

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    Devin, Jeremy, Bran, Blake and heck even Primo are all picks I'm okay with...
    I know they were looking for upside, but Primo was an awful pick even if he wasn't a degenerate.
    Branham and Wesley are also looking bad since a lot of players in #20-35 range from that draft have turned out to be good and two of them are scrubs.
    Yeah, you miss some, but completely whiffing both picks hurts.

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    Just throwing out random ideas. Would anyone trade our pick for Tari Eason? Houston has too many guys. I'm still committed to a defensive iden y, especially with Wemby. And our top 3 will be putting up plenty of shots. Just spitballing.

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    Just throwing out random ideas. Would anyone trade our pick for Tari Eason? Houston has too many guys. I'm still committed to a defensive iden y, especially with Wemby. And our top 3 will be putting up plenty of shots. Just spitballing.
    The ONLY player I want off that roster of chuckle s is Jabari.

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    I know they were looking for upside, but Primo was an awful pick even if he wasn't a degenerate.
    Branham and Wesley are also looking bad since a lot of players in #20-35 range from that draft have turned out to be good and two of them are scrubs.
    Yeah, you miss some, but completely whiffing both picks hurts.
    I think you’re confusing 2022 with 2020, which actually had some decent action 25-30. Nobody to lose any sleep over in that range for 2022.

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    I think you’re confusing 2022 with 2020, which actually had some decent action 25-30. Nobody to lose any sleep over in that range for 2022.


    We haven't missed out on anyone with star potential, but you can't tell me it wouldn't be better if we had at least one of those decent role players instead of those two scrubs.
    A lot of solid players were drafted in that range.

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    We haven't missed out on anyone with star potential, but you can't tell me it wouldn't be better if we had at least one of those decent role players instead of those two scrubs.
    A lot of solid players were drafted in that range.
    I'd argue that anyone on that list taken instead of Blake or Bran would have had the same outcome as Blake and Bran (and those two may have turned out better elsewhere). It's a development issue, not a scouting issue, IMO.

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    There was also the De'vonte Graham debut game versus Detroit in an epic 2OT tankathon thriller. https://www.espn.com/nba/game/_/game.../spurs-pistons

    Imagine how terrible your roster construction needs to be to be led by Graham with 31, Zollins with 29 and Branhim with 27.
    thanks, actually yours is the one I was thinking of tbh. Both are oddly similar, OT Ls against DET. That game thread was popping lol. It really illustrates how far we've come. Wemby/Castle/Fox now, unthinkable back then at the time.

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    Ok question since I watch zero NCAA hoops and have not for a long time If things play out and we don't get the lucky ping pong for Flagg and we end up where the current projections. They have us at 8 and then somewhere between 14-16 for the hawks pick who are the players in those slots the Spurs should look at and if not who should they be trying to trade for

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    I know they were looking for upside, but Primo was an awful pick even if he wasn't a degenerate.
    I'm okay with passing on Sengun. The real miss is TMIII. Jalen Johnson, Santi and Herb would have also been reaches but are the next best guys drafted after Primo. But I'd also argue that we would have failed to develop these guys as well. Since we took Derrick in 2017, Keldon is the only non top-5 pick we've successfully developed to significantly out perform their draft position. I'd say Devin has hit median expectation. Blake and Bran have also probably hit median expectation for a late FRP. Luka, Primo, Sochan are all under-performers.

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    Ok question since I watch zero NCAA hoops and have not for a long time If things play out and we don't get the lucky ping pong for Flagg and we end up where the current projections. They have us at 8 and then somewhere between 14-16 for the hawks pick who are the players in those slots the Spurs should look at and if not who should they be trying to trade for
    You probably need to ask these questions after the combine. For example, in 2019, Brandon Clarke was mocking in the top 10, and had good shot blocking numbers, so people figured that at 6’8”, his wingspan was 7’0”-7’’2”. It measured at 6’8”, just like his height, and he dropped to pick #21, and has had kind of a mid career so far.

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    Saw Wasserman's latest had us taking Tre Johnson. I know little about him, but based on the bit I've read its the type of pick they make if they are also ready to move on from Devin. Basically "resetting" the Dev contract, while ideally also using Dev to get another player. They appear to have a similar offensive profile of this version of Dev (not the draft one that was supposed to be good at D too).

    If Dev returns as solid starter in a trade (that also doesnt involve sending this pick out), I wouldnt mind have a gunner like Tre off the bench tbh.

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    Saw Wasserman's latest had us taking Tre Johnson. I know little about him, but based on the bit I've read its the type of pick they make if they are also ready to move on from Devin. Basically "resetting" the Dev contract, while ideally also using Dev to get another player. They appear to have a similar offensive profile of this version of Dev (not the draft one that was supposed to be good at D too).

    If Dev returns as solid starter in a trade (that also doesnt involve sending this pick out), I wouldnt mind have a gunner like Tre off the bench tbh.
    Then we'd have to keep Keldon for Johnson & Johnson bench duo.

    Tbh, I'd be content with one of Kon, Johnson or Maluach.

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    Then we'd have to keep Keldon for Johnson & Johnson bench duo.

    Tbh, I'd be content with one of Kon, Johnson or Maluach.
    Bruh, this team will never trade Keldon so your J&J dream is alive.

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    Then we'd have to keep Keldon for Johnson & Johnson bench duo.

    Tbh, I'd be content with one of Kon, Johnson or Maluach.
    Bend over, I'll give you a Johnson to be content with

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    Bruh, this team will never trade Keldon so your J&J dream is alive.
    Wasn't Kelon initially going to go out in the Fox trade?

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    Wasn't Kelon initially going to go out in the Fox trade?
    The scuttlebutt was that the original trade had Dejounte going to Sacto, and KJ to the Pels. That one went out the window when Dejounte’s Achilles popped.

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    Wasn't Kelon initially going to go out in the Fox trade?
    Yeah, I was just being dumb — Mr. culture, cowboy boots, hunter/fishman etc etc

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    The scuttlebutt was that the original trade had Dejounte going to Sacto, and KJ to the Pels. That one went out the window when Dejounte’s Achilles popped.
    Interesting. Hadn’t heard that one. Curious what it would have cost in terms of picks. The Chicago thing was perfect since we owned their pick.

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    If this thread makes it to 100 pages, we’re drafting Kon. So it shall be written

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    I just want a shooter and a big who can rebound and play defense

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    If this thread makes it to 100 pages, we’re drafting Kon. So it shall be written
    Helping write it

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    Sharpe will be better
    So...what do you wanna bet? Cause I'm game for easy money...

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    If this thread makes it to 100 pages, we’re drafting Kon. So it shall be written
    Needs a deadline to be effective, tbh.

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    Just throwing out random ideas. Would anyone trade our pick for Tari Eason? Houston has too many guys. I'm still committed to a defensive iden y, especially with Wemby. And our top 3 will be putting up plenty of shots. Just spitballing.
    I’m not sure the rockets will trade with a division rival. I checked and the last time we had a trade with them was for scola. In fact we only had four trades with them ever, according to bkref.

    Eason is nice but if rockets are willing to trade or try to get Jabari smith. I think hed be awesome next to wemby.

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