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    Jenkins is an absolute no-brainer hire (assuming he wants it) and if the Spurs somehow screw this up by letting Pop come back for another season then we are an unserious organization tbh.

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    One bit of caution, in reading the Memphis Redditt as well as the Memphis forum, it seems most of the fans were not angered and outraged over the firing. Many of the fans mentioned Jenkins' odd line ups and subs utions. I got the impression that most of the fans were okay with the firing, which I thought was odd due to the timing two weeks before the playoffs. I honestly thought there would be widespread anger like when the Mavs traded Luka.

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    More I read about this the more is screams he appeased the GM in the offseason with new assistants and it did not work so management blames him for their bad decisions and let him go.

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    Jenkins seems like a logical choice for us. However, the odd line ups would drive this board crazy. In our one win against Memphis I remember wondering why the hot hands of the moment (can't remember who at the moment) were benched. I felt it helped us win that game.

    It is going to be one of an off season between Pop's status, the lottery, the draft and FA.Lot's of unknown variables for a franchise that likes predictable outcomes.

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    However, the odd line ups would drive this board crazy.
    We're used to it by now. It's been like that for years.

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    Long ESPN story about Jenkin's firing. https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...taylor-jenkins

    Honestly it just sounds like MEM is run by morons.

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    I did not realize MEM got LaRoche from... us.

    There were two architects and one supervisor -- Jenkins -- charged with blending the competing visions. One was Tuomas Iisalo, a Finnish coach who'd had a meteoric rise in Europe by implementing innovative offensive concepts around pick-and-roll schemes, pacing and offensive rebounding. Another was player development specialist Noah LaRoche, whom the Grizzlies had lured from a consulting role with the San Antonio Spurs and charged with teaching an offense that prioritized spacing and largely did away with pick-and-rolls and dribble handoffs.

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    Jenkins, the fifth-longest-tenured NBA coach, had never met either of the assistants before interviewing them, one source said.
    "It was a total shock because we'd already had our exit meetings and were preparing for the summer," one former assistant said. "We'd all gone away for a few weeks and came back to start work again. Taylor felt so bad about it. But apparently they decided to go in another direction."
    "Players aren't stupid," another source said. "They know where this is heading when you fire five assistants after the season."
    Can't do this if you want to be taken seriously.
    This is why players, most notably KD, had no interest in joining them. Players know about everything that goes on.
    If they wanted to take another direction, they should've fired Jenkins last summer or let him finish this season.

    Also, Iisalo apparenlty had offers from other teams, that's probably why they did what they did.

    Memphis is committed to extending Jackson and Aldama this summer, sources said. And Kleiman publicly denied trade rumors and affirmed the commitment to Morant in February.
    Well, there goes Aldama.
    Should focus on John Collins, tbh.

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    There has been a lot of talk that Ja didn't like the new offense and both he (and MEM fans) would want to see Ja in more PnR action... but it turns out, Ja's not actually very good at that. A good example of how what's best for the player is not always what's best for the team.

    FOR ALL OF his individual gifts, Morant has never been a great pick-and-roll player. He's not even above average, according to ESPN Research.Morant averages just 0.99 points per direct pick as the ball handler in his career when using an on-ball screen. That ranks 39th among 56 players to run at least 5,000 on-ball screens as the ball handler since 2019-20.
    He also has just a 44.7% effective field goal percentage on jumpers when coming off an on-ball screen in his career. Only Russell Westbrook has been worse among 111 players to take at least 750 jumpers when coming off an on-ball screen since 2019-20.
    The appeal of an offense that doesn't rely on pick-and-rolls is obvious for a franchise built around Morant's offensive talents.

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    Kenyon Martin just said on Gil’s arena Taylor to spurs is done and smirked, looked like he has inside info , but who knows

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    Kenyon Martin just said on Gil’s arena Taylor to spurs is done and smirked, looked like he has inside info , but who knows
    I'm still hoping for Pop's appearance for the final game of the season.
    He deserves a proper farewell, but he's got nothing left. Can stay as a consultant or something.

    One trait that's never appreciated enough with all-time great athletes and coaches is knowing when it's enough.
    We don't want Pop to be one of those who stayed way past their expiration date and started ruining his legacy.

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    I'm still hoping for Pop's appearance for the final game of the season.
    He deserves a proper farewell, but he's got nothing left. Can stay as a consultant or something.

    One trait that's never appreciated enough with all-time great athletes and coaches is knowing when it's enough.
    We don't want Pop to be one of those who stayed way past their expiration date and started ruining his legacy.
    Best case scenario for all parties..

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    Kenyon Martin just said on Gil’s arena Taylor to spurs is done and smirked, looked like he has inside info , but who knows
    It's fun to connect the dots on who people on ST are on reddit

    I think we should all just have a secret agreement to not reveal iden ies across platforms

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    One bit of caution, in reading the Memphis Redditt as well as the Memphis forum, it seems most of the fans were not angered and outraged over the firing. Many of the fans mentioned Jenkins' odd line ups and subs utions. I got the impression that most of the fans were okay with the firing, which I thought was odd due to the timing two weeks before the playoffs. I honestly thought there would be widespread anger like when the Mavs traded Luka.
    The old man refused to play Dejounte and Derrick White at the same time for a full season in favor of Bryn F'n Forbes. He started Sochan at point for 1/3 of the season last year.

    The bar is low when it comes to "odd line ups" in the Spurs organization tbh

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    The old man refused to play Dejounte and Derrick White at the same time for a full season in favor of Bryn F'n Forbes. He started Sochan at point for 1/3 of the season last year.

    The bar is low when it comes to "odd line ups" in the Spurs organization tbh
    Mills/Forbes lineup.

    Blair/Bonner turd towers

    none of this is new. at least Jenkins will get a baseline level of competent, professional play out of our guys, with a more recent track record of developing good young players. in recent seasons (last 2 months notwithstanding), memphis has consistently punched above its weight when playing hurt or shorthanded

    gimme all that

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    One bit of caution, in reading the Memphis Redditt as well as the Memphis forum, it seems most of the fans were not angered and outraged over the firing. Many of the fans mentioned Jenkins' odd line ups and subs utions. I got the impression that most of the fans were okay with the firing, which I thought was odd due to the timing two weeks before the playoffs. I honestly thought there would be widespread anger like when the Mavs traded Luka.
    You could probably do the same with every coach in every sport and more or less find the same thing.

    So long as they "look like" Jenkins while having a modi of success, the majority will always think they're a genius and the grass is greener, until they're coaching their team and suddenly they realize they're similar to the supposed idiot they replaced.

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    You could probably do the same with every coach in every sport and more or less find the same thing.

    So long as they "look like" Jenkins while having a modi of success, the majority will always think they're a genius and the grass is greener, until they're coaching their team and suddenly they realize they're similar to the supposed idiot they replaced.
    Why not just directly say that White Men should not be NBA coaches like you want to?

    Does your opinion extend to Latinos? Asians? Women?

    Just would like to know where TD 21 stands.

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    #BringHimHome

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    Why not just directly say that White Men should not be NBA coaches like you want to?

    Does your opinion extend to Latinos? Asians? Women?

    Just would like to know where TD 21 stands.
    If I wanted to, I'd say it.

    That's never been my point.

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    Why not just directly say that White Men should not be NBA coaches like you want to?

    Does your opinion extend to Latinos? Asians? Women?

    Just would like to know where TD 21 stands.
    seriously.

    everybody here would love Ty Lue. Erik Spoelstra. Ime Udoka.

    21 wont say what he means, and wont mean what he says. its why i didnt bat an eye over him leaving the forum

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    Well, there goes Aldama.
    Should focus on John Collins, tbh.
    "Memphis is committed to extending ... Aldama" is not the same thing as Aldama wants to be in Memphis...

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    "Memphis is committed to extending ... Aldama" is not the same thing as Aldama wants to be in Memphis...
    I think they can make him a restricted free agent by making the qualifying offer to him.

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    I wonder if a Ja for Zion swap would make sense?

    I had no idea MEM did the LaRoche poach from, uh, us. That does make a bit of sense that he and Jenkins might find their way back to the Spurs.

    Do teams have coaching Big Boards? If so, I wonder where Jenkins falls on the Spurs Big Board?

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    The old man refused to play Dejounte and Derrick White at the same time for a full season in favor of Bryn F'n Forbes. He started Sochan at point for 1/3 of the season last year.

    The bar is low when it comes to "odd line ups" in the Spurs organization tbh
    It goes back a lot further 😂. Trading Scola because he ‘played the same position as Duncan’, then trotting out Kurt Thomas and Antonio Mcdyess next to Duncan for the next 3 years. Refusing to play Tiago his rookie year and only 19 MPG his second season.

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