2025 NBA Draft

[spurraider21]

Imo, it's about fit.
Knueppel looks great, but I don't think he's got star potential. High end role player, borderline all-star looks to be his best case.
For example, I don't see why would Raptors draft him. They have so many of those guard hybrids and small forwards, but they don't have a floor general.

If they're outside of top4, I don't see them getting Knueppel or Tre Johnson over Jakucionis or Fears.
Even Maluach to take over from Poeltl who has a lot of value would be a great pick for them.

Nets will have literally nothing and Knueppel isn't the guy you take a swing on after you bottom out. They need someone with superstar upside.
Blazers also have too many SG/SFs, but then again, they seem to be well-rounded and in need of a franchise player.
Pelicans are similar to Raptors, they need a PG while Dejounte is out or another big.

Sixers and Hornets are our main Knueppel rivals, imo. If they're in #5-7 range and ahead of us, he's gone, tbh.

hornets saved us from ourselves by taking Salaun last year. lets see what happens this time

[Dejounte]

Boom. 100. We’re locked in on Kon now. Thanks to everyone who participated.

[spurraider21]

Boom. 100. We’re locked in on Kon now. Thanks to everyone who participated.

whats the boom?

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Boom. 100. We’re locked in on Kon now. Thanks to everyone who participated.

I started liking Kon because of you. I'll come back hunt you down if he is proven not as good.

[mystargtr34]

If the draft order stays as is I think the top 8 plays out like this

Jazz - Flagg
Obvious.

Wiz - Harper
Obvious.

Hornets - VJ
Equal as a prospect to Ace imo. Better fit in backcourt next to Lamelo. Plus Hornets already have a slightly better version of Ace in Brandon Millers.

Pels - Ace Bailey
Best available.

Sixers - Maluach
Embiid insurance. Sixers need a big forward but the next best one is CMB and that’s a reach at 5.

Nets - Tre Johnson
This could go a number of ways. I can see them taking Tre, Fears or Queen here. Don’t think they go with Kon as they are better of shooting for upside.

Raptors - Fears or Queen
I think the Raptors would LOVE Maluach But he’ll be gone. They have a glut of wings/forwards so they’ll take either a C or PG. Possibly Jaku but doubtful.

Spurs - Kon
I could also see CMB here tbh.

[scott]

If it played out that way mystargtr34, I wonder if the Spurs would consider Jaku. Not what we need, but if he is seen as clearly the best player, the Spurs could see it as a way to lock down a 3-man guard rotation with Jaku's rookie extension kicking in around the time (though not perfectly) Fox's max deal would be kicking in. Would be quite the rich pick at #8... but for example the #8 pick last year was taken on a bench guard so I don't think it's crazy to consider.

[Dejounte]

I started liking Kon because of you. I'll come back hunt you down if he is proven not as good.

I’m going to get you to like Sorber, too. He’s the real deal.

[exstatic]

If the draft order stays as is I think the top 8 plays out like this

Jazz - Flagg
Obvious.

Wiz - Harper
Obvious.

Hornets - VJ
Equal as a prospect to Ace imo. Better fit in backcourt next to Lamelo. Plus Hornets already have a slightly better version of Ace in Brandon Millers.

Pels - Ace Bailey
Best available.

Sixers - Maluach
Embiid insurance. Sixers need a big forward but the next best one is CMB and that’s a reach at 5.

Nets - Tre Johnson
This could go a number of ways. I can see them taking Tre, Fears or Queen here. Don’t think they go with Kon as they are better of shooting for upside.

Raptors - Fears or Queen
I think the Raptors would LOVE Maluach But he’ll be gone. They have a glut of wings/forwards so they’ll take either a C or PG. Possibly Jaku but doubtful.

Spurs - Kon
I could also see CMB here tbh.

I don’t see Tre as an upside shot for the Nets. I think his ceiling is a catch and shoot guy. If they want an upside pull, they should go with Fears.

[Dejounte]

Here’s my mythical creature scott

It’s very easy for the Spurs to find success with a non shooting big like Sorber

If Sochan had more of a rebounding presence (and post defender) on top of everything he is, he would make the team so much better than if he was the shooter everyone wants him to be. His shooting gets emphasized because the aesthetic of it is so poor that it gets everyone’s attention. But if we expand our imagination past what we see and visualize a tougher, bigger version of him that swallows up second chance rebounds and basically moves everyone out of the way inside… that lineup would be a FORCE. It’s a much more effective lineup than plugging in a 3 pt shooting PF whose shots are being taken by Wemby because Wemby loves to chuck it up and make everyone else streaky while making it difficult for anyone to get any rhythm shooting-wise (unless they are a primary or secondary ball handler like Fox and Castle are).

… Wemby is a nightmare for any spot up shooter. They won’t make their money on a team with Wemby. It’s just not that kind of team. That’s why the team needs to hope they can keep finding players who are a penny on the dollar like Champagnie. Any big investment on a shooter would be bad for the team.

[spurraider21]

I’m going to get you to like Sorber, too. He’s the real deal.

i like sorber a lot and he would be an outstanding backup center. but i dont see a path to him coexisting with wemby. his perimeter defense is poor and he doesnt have an outside shot. but id feel comfortable taking a backup with the hawks pick based on the board. i'd rather swing for a forward like Fleming/Bryant though. i'd put sorber in the next tier ahead of somebody like Clifford

[Dejounte]

i like sorber a lot and we would be an outstanding backup center. but i dont see a path to him coexisting with wemby. his perimeter defense is poor and he doesnt have an outside shot. but id feel comfortable taking a backup with the hawks pick based on the board. i'd rather swing for a forward like Fleming/Bryant though. i'd put sorber in the next tier ahead of somebody like Clifford

I figured. I just don’t think we’ll find a middle ground on roster construction between you and I, lol, and that’s ok.

the good news (for me and fans of Sorber) is I found someone who reports that the Spurs were in attendance to watch Sorber play a few months ago. I am happy they are interested.

[spurraider21]

I figured. I just don’t think we’ll find a middle ground on roster construction between you and I, lol, and that’s ok.

the good news (for me and fans of Sorber) is I found someone who reports that the Spurs were in attendance to watch Sorber play a few months ago. I am happy they are interested.

do you think sorber can defend the perimeter or operate offensively on the perimeter?

offensively i think he's a superior version of what sochan is offering us. occupying the dunker spot, finishing down low against smaller mismatches. he's a superior interior scorer by far. and he actually his a nice middy jumper. neither spaces the floor from behind the line so ill give that a draw. and one thing he does do well that we need is interior defensive help. right now when wemby flies over to contest a shot, we give up offensive rebounds, easy putbacks, etc. sorber gives us another presence down there. but if we all agree wemby is at his best being the primary paint defender, is sorber going to defend forwards out on the perimeter?

roster construction aside, those are legitimate questions.

[Dejounte]

first actual report of the Spurs showing any interest in one of the 2025 draft prospects. Have not seen any reports like this in this entire 100 page thread

[spurraider21]

first actual report of the Spurs showing any interest in one of the 2025 draft prospects. Have not seen any reports like this in this entire 100 page thread

you cant seriously think sorber is the only prospect for whom the spurs have sent scouts to see in person

its one tweet from december, cmon man

[Dejounte]

you cant seriously think sorber is the only prospect for whom the spurs have sent scouts to see in person

its one tweet from december, cmon man

What do you mean I embedded it incorrectly?

of course I don’t think he’s the only one they’ve scouted. I said it’s the first actual report. Reports like this are hard to come by when it comes to the Spurs if you pay attention from previous years.

[spurraider21]

What do you mean I embedded it incorrectly?

of course I don’t think he’s the only one they’ve scouted. I said it’s the first actual report. Reports like this are hard to come by when it comes to the Spurs if you pay attention from previous years.

you initially had the full twitter link which is why it wasnt showing up. when i was mid-comment i think you went back to edit it and only include the tweet number, so its good now

[Dejounte]

you initially had the full twitter link which is why it wasnt showing up. when i was mid-comment i think you went back to edit it and only include the tweet number, so its good now

I think I know what you’re talking about. I’m not gaslighting you when I say I didn’t edit the link. This site loads the embed all delayed and , that I have tried to do it different ways to see which way works. If you look back about 10 pages, I embedded the same tweet three or four different times because it wasn’t loading. Then, five minutes later they were all showing up.

[exstatic]

I think I know what you’re talking about. I’m not gaslighting you when I say I didn’t edit the link. This site loads the embed all delayed and , that I have tried to do it different ways to see which way works. If you look back about 10 pages, I embedded the same tweet three or four different times because it wasn’t loading. Then, five minutes later they were all showing up.

Yup. This happens all the time, the delayed tweet appearance.

[spurraider21]

i thought you edited because based on your comment i could tell a tweet was missing. when i clicked "reply with quote" i saw within your comment the text that looked like

[ tweet] twitter.com/sidkfjsdfikjsadfjsf [/ tweet]

so it looked like you just typed in the full link instead of just the number. i guess ST is just buggy

[Manu&Duncan fan]

If it played out that way mystargtr34, I wonder if the Spurs would consider Jaku. Not what we need, but if he is seen as clearly the best player, the Spurs could see it as a way to lock down a 3-man guard rotation with Jaku's rookie extension kicking in around the time (though not perfectly) Fox's max deal would be kicking in. Would be quite the rich pick at #8... but for example the #8 pick last year was taken on a bench guard so I don't think it's crazy to consider.

You're correct. If both are available, spurs will pick Jaku.

[thOOdee]

If the draft order stays as is I think the top 8 plays out like this

Jazz - Flagg
Obvious.

Wiz - Harper
Obvious.

Hornets - VJ
Equal as a prospect to Ace imo. Better fit in backcourt next to Lamelo. Plus Hornets already have a slightly better version of Ace in Brandon Millers.

Pels - Ace Bailey
Best available.

Sixers - Maluach
Embiid insurance. Sixers need a big forward but the next best one is CMB and that’s a reach at 5.

Nets - Tre Johnson
This could go a number of ways. I can see them taking Tre, Fears or Queen here. Don’t think they go with Kon as they are better of shooting for upside.

Raptors - Fears or Queen
I think the Raptors would LOVE Maluach But he’ll be gone. They have a glut of wings/forwards so they’ll take either a C or PG. Possibly Jaku but doubtful.

Spurs - Kon
I could also see CMB here tbh.

and with the 16th pick?? Any noa essengue votes. Or roll the dice on egor? Or is a center the biggest priority at that point?

[scott]

Here’s my mythical creature scott

It’s very easy for the Spurs to find success with a non shooting big like Sorber

If Sochan had more of a rebounding presence (and post defender) on top of everything he is, he would make the team so much better than if he was the shooter everyone wants him to be. His shooting gets emphasized because the aesthetic of it is so poor that it gets everyone’s attention. But if we expand our imagination past what we see and visualize a tougher, bigger version of him that swallows up second chance rebounds and basically moves everyone out of the way inside… that lineup would be a FORCE. It’s a much more effective lineup than plugging in a 3 pt shooting PF whose shots are being taken by Wemby because Wemby loves to chuck it up and make everyone else streaky while making it difficult for anyone to get any rhythm shooting-wise (unless they are a primary or secondary ball handler like Fox and Castle are).

… Wemby is a nightmare for any spot up shooter. They won’t make their money on a team with Wemby. It’s just not that kind of team. That’s why the team needs to hope they can keep finding players who are a penny on the dollar like Champagnie. Any big investment on a shooter would be bad for the team.

I fundamentally disagree that this player doesn't need to be a 3pt threat, but I appreciate your take.

I like Sorber and would take him with the ATL pick, but not to be our starting PF next to Wemby.

[baseline bum]

hornets saved us from ourselves by taking Salaun last year. lets see what happens this time

Still not buying that the Spurs were actually taking him when the other piece of info leaked by them was how bad Devin Carter whooped Castle in individual workouts.

[Mr. Body]

Still not buying that the Spurs were actually taking him when the other piece of info leaked by them was how bad Devin Carter whooped Castle in individual workouts.

Same. I don't believe they had any great interest in Salaun. That's a myth.

[rascal]

and with the 16th pick?? Any noa essengue votes. Or roll the dice on egor? Or is a center the biggest priority at that point?

I'd take McNeeley over those guys.