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    I think if you draft high, like top 4, and say Harper turns out as good or better than Castle,you’ve got 3 years to figure out which one to keep, and which one to flip for a high end stretch 4 rim protector. Those are good problems to have.

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    People have to realize that next season we cannot trot out a lineup where we have Barnes or Sochan at C. I think that’s only happening out of necessity and you best believe the Spurs are going to try to find talent for that spot, maybe even prioritize it. The best way to address it is like I have been saying… find a PF/C who can play with Wemby and can switch over to C when Wemby is out. That’s the only way the team can maximize value for a backup C… by making sure they’re versatile enough not to be pegged in one position only. That is why whoever that C has to be better than what Sochan and Barnes are showing right now. They cannot be that small and ineffective at that spot. Bailey wouldn’t be able to switch over to C like that. Asa weighs too little. Khaman can’t play with Wemby. Queen’s defense is questionable. CMB might do it. Sorber definitely can.
    I'm not that familiar with this draft's bigs, but if we're hypothetically talking about players in the league right now, John Collins could be that player.

    Collins/Wemby as starters, Jeremy as the backup with any combination between three of them being viable.
    Barnes can play some minutes at PF, don't really need anyone else for regular rotation.
    Then get an experienced big body as an emergency backup, someone like let's say Drummond. A player who won't complain about not being a regular rotation member, but will be solid enough to play in some matchups and when Wemby is out.

    I'm not against drafting the players you mentioned, as I said I don't know if CMB and Sorber will be good enough, but the odds of ATL pick rookie being a starter next season are non-existant, imo.

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    I think if you draft high, like top 4, and say Harper turns out as good or better than Castle,you’ve got 3 years to figure out which one to keep, and which one to flip for a high end stretch 4 rim protector. Those are good problems to have.
    Oh no. What is wrong with you

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    My picks: Jaku/Kon at 8; Essengue/Fleming at 14.
    this is what I'm leaning towards except swap tre johnson and fears for jaku. And in the verrrry long shot if khaman falls, khaman8; DEMIN/essengue/flemming at 14.

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    I think if you draft high, like top 4, and say Harper turns out as good or better than Castle,you’ve got 3 years to figure out which one to keep, and which one to flip for a high end stretch 4 rim protector. Those are good problems to have.
    completely disagree. I think at that point, you get rid of cp3, sochan, devin, and kj, and let the fox effect begin. I think at this point it won't be unrealistic to get hired guns at the other positions of need with that much foundational talent. even if they are temporary

    I will say, it will almost be like the an hesis of how boston is setup up w brown and tatum as foundations. But I'd be good with that.

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    completely disagree. I think at that point, you get rid of cp3, sochan, devin, and kj, and let the fox effect begin. I think at this point it won't be unrealistic to get hired guns at the other positions of need with that much foundational talent. even if they are temporary

    I will say, it will almost be like the an hesis of how boston is setup up w brown and tatum as foundations. But I'd be good with that.
    Boston is going to have to break up the band, or face draft pick degradation/lockdown.

    You cannot keep and pay 3 guys on SuperMax, or year 10 Max contracts, and put any kind of team around them. Milwaukee and Denver are examples of too many big contracts destroying your roster.

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    Projected to be one of the top prospects in the 2026 NBA Draft.

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    Two weird things about the flattened odds that have been in place since 2019:

    The #1 team pre-lottery has never won.

    The #6 team has not only never jumped into the top 4, they been pushed back 3 spots twice, 2 spots twice, and one spot one time. The best performance for a #6 was to stay #6, one time.

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    Two weird things about the flattened odds that have been in place since 2019:

    The #1 team pre-lottery has never won.

    The #6 team has not only never jumped into the top 4, they been pushed back 3 spots twice, 2 spots twice, and one spot one time. The best performance for a #6 was to stay #6, one time.
    Fascinating, now do position 8.

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    I've said this before, but teams shouldn't be punished for drafting well. You should get a percentage knocked off the cap hit to sign your own free agents if you drafted them.

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    I've said this before, but teams shouldn't be punished for drafting well. You should get a percentage knocked off the cap hit to sign your own free agents if you drafted them.
    If this were the case the Thunder would win 11 rings in a row

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    Myles Turner at center
    Wemby and Durant at forward
    Fox and Castle at guard......

    How much to have this line-up??

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    Fascinating, now do position 8.
    Position #8 has jumped into the top 4 twice (#2,#3), stayed put 3 times, and been knocked back to #10 one time.

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    Position #8 has jumped into the top 4 twice (#2,#3), stayed put 3 times, and been knocked back to #10 one time.
    Well that’s less exciting.

    Unrelated, my latest draft take is that Malauch is gonna go before Bailey (whether justified or not). You already are hearing the narrative about him have the shot touch that goes back to the 3pt line, and that his ft% is good etc.

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    Well that’s less exciting.

    Unrelated, my latest draft take is that Malauch is gonna go before Bailey (whether justified or not). You already are hearing the narrative about him have the shot touch that goes back to the 3pt line, and that his ft% is good etc.
    Not overly exciting,but 8 has outperformed its slot odds of 26.3 by hitting 33.3 in those 6 lotteries.

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    Position #8 has jumped into the top 4 twice (#2,#3), stayed put 3 times, and been knocked back to #10 one time.
    I'll take that. In my last 10 attempts at Tankathon, my best was 8 and many times I have been knocked back.

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    I think if you draft high, like top 4, and say Harper turns out as good or better than Castle,you’ve got 3 years to figure out which one to keep, and which one to flip for a high end stretch 4 rim protector. Those are good problems to have.
    I think we need to take Bailey 2, Harper 3, Edgecombe 4. Harper or Edgecombe are fine additions. Vassell is possibly our best trade chip, now that he has inched up to 37% 3 PT. His inconsistency is maddening, and I don't really love him as an undersized SF at all.

    Harper/Edgecombe are desirable because our guards are only Fox/Castle. Paul is at best a 1-2 year stopgap and that may be optimistic. Wesley being our only other guard is a risky proposition. This roster can definitely use another quality rotation guard.

    Given our severe lack of size and depth in the frontcourt, I can see why many focus there first, though.

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    I think we need to take Bailey 2, Harper 3, Edgecombe 4. Harper or Edgecombe are fine additions. Vassell is possibly our best trade chip, now that he has inched up to 37% 3 PT. His inconsistency is maddening, and I don't really love him as an undersized SF at all.

    Harper/Edgecombe are desirable because our guards are only Fox/Castle. Paul is at best a 1-2 year stopgap and that may be optimistic. Wesley being our only other guard is a risky proposition. This roster can definitely use another quality rotation guard.

    Given our severe lack of size and depth in the frontcourt, I can see why many focus there first, though.
    I don’t like Bailey. Strong Cam Reddish high ceiling/low floor bust potential. That fractional asst/TO ratio is frightening.

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    Portland blatantly tanking. They're likely goin to do the day to us on Sunday I fear.


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    8 is a very good number, so let’s see what good luck it brings us.I like our chances. I think if they come up with a SG/SF shooter and address the strong PF/C position will be good, plus a back PG at SRP will be a bonus, then whoever they bring in at FA/trade.Kon/Sorber will be ideal. I am not totally against Queen because he is a beast in the paint. Spurs have the best help defensive help in the league in Wemby to swat whoever Queen slows down. Similar to Wolf, a high skilled legit 7 footer 250 lbs. Wemby will be there to help. MCB is a bit short at 6’7 for that strong PF/C that Spurs desperately need, but MCB has that AS potential and should not easily be ignored. Do we get the BPA and figure it later or draft the position in need?
    Last edited by John B; 04-05-2025 at 11:33 AM.

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    Portland blatantly tanking. They're likely goin to do the day to us on Sunday I fear.
    Worry not, we have the right man for the job!


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    Portland blatantly tanking. They're likely goin to do the day to us on Sunday I fear.

    No, they’re not. They’ve had 3-4 chances to dump games recently, and haven’t. After our last win, they could have closed the gap to 1/2 game, but won their next game against a non tanking team.

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    Please stop the hype on Sorber and potentially take him out of Spurs reach


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    https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/thom...-in-the-middle

    Thomas Sorber: A Bully in the Middle

    Georgetown Hoyas freshman big man Thomas Sorber has the tools to be one of the top bigs in the 2025 NBA Draft class.

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    Positions have changed throughout the history of the NBA. As the game has continued to evolve, so has the way that teams view and utilize players on the court. Gone are the days in which every NBA team has tried to play two bigs at the same time for extended minutes. The thought of a player who only plays power forward seems to be prehistoric. Forwards are now asked to do everything from guarding multiple positions defensively to having guard like skills and allowing coaching staffs to get creative with their sets. Even the point guard position has continued to shift towards the emphasis of having guards who play either backcourt spot depending on lineup flexibility.
    But one position continues to be asked to evolve at a rapid pace. The big man position has had a variance of desires throughout NBA history. At one point, teams hunted a lumbering giant who could do their work on the boards. As long as you could control the paint, you’d have desire around the league. Then we saw the era that featured finding bigs that could be force-fed in the halfcourt. Teams would feed them touches in the post like a Las Vegas buffet. The Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan, and Shaquille O’Neal era featured plenty of talented superstar bigs.
    Fast forward to today, and the league has asked centers to do one thing…
    Adapt.
    It’s not enough to just have size in the NBA. You need to be able to check a lot of boxes at the center position. The more boxes you can check, the more NBA front offices are going to be drooling. We’ve reached April, which is when things start to get turned up into supersonic speed in the world of scouting. Evaluators are able to finally take a deep breath and get caught up on film from the current draft cycle.
    The upcoming months are some of the best in the world of basketball scouting. Players eyeing the NBA Draft will start to prepare themselves for a lengthy process. That includes private workouts with teams, as well as the NBA Draft Combine.
    We’ve seen numerous players over the years generate some real momentum during that process. But, regardless of players in the past who have climbed up the rankings with a strong process, NBA Front Offices LOVE to be enamored with bigs. If you have good size and upside, teams will knock at the door. At the same time, if a prospect also offers two-way versatility and skills waiting to be untapped…you’re going to have teams kicking the door down.
    There have been plenty of bigs in the 2025 NBA Draft class who have generated some excitement throughout the year. But one big man continues to have the potential to climb up the ranks quickly.
    Georgetown freshman center Thomas Sorbercontinued to turn heads during the 2024-25 NCAA season with his play on the court. Sorber is listed at 6’10” and 255 pounds. Immediately on paper, those measurements will get your attention. The production will get you intrigued as well. In 24 games this year, Sorber averaged 14.5 points, 8.5 rebounds, 2.4 assists, 2.0 blocks, and 1.5 steals per game. He also shot 53.2% from the field and 72.4% from the line.
    Sorber started out the year on an impressive run. In his first 11 games, he averaged 14.8 points, 8.0 rebounds and 1.8 blocks per game. The buzz was starting to heat up, but there was also plenty that were wanting to proceed with caution. Georgetown hadn’t had the toughest schedule to start the year, so many wondered if this was Sorber just bullying weaker opponents. Well, the answer is yes…but he’s a bully to all.
    Then Thomas Sorber got cooking.






    His next eight-game stretch featured all conference opponents. These games included matchups with Xavier, Marquette, UConn, and St. John’s. During this span, Sober averaged 14.8 points, 10.5 rebounds, 2.6 assists, 1.4 steals and 3.1 blocks per game. During that span, he also shot 50.6% from the field, 76.9% from the free throw line, and 20.0% from downtown (more on that in a bit).

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    I wanted to go ahead and take a deeper look at the numbers. To measure Sorber’s ability, I wanted to see what he looked like in his best games and worst games of the year. In order to do this, I looked into John Hollinger’s “Game Score” rating. For those not familiar with the metric, it’s a measure of a player’s productivity for a single game—40 is viewed as an “outstanding performance, while 10 is an “average” performance.
    It’s important to point out that these are just numbers. As with all analytics, it doesn’t take into consideration important factors such as role, situation, playing time, etc. I’m simply just pointing out something that caught my attention.
    In order to give it some more context, I wanted to throw in another pair of bigs who are drawing plenty of buzz in the 2025 NBA Draft class. That includes Derik Queen (Maryland) and Khaman Maluach (Duke).
    Comparing The Bigs of 2025:






    Thomas Sorber — Georgetown


    • Best 10 Games:
      • 19.0 PTS | 10.2 REB | 2.5 AST | 1.9 STL | 2.2 BLK
      • 63.8 FG% (74/116)
      • 33.3 3P% (5/15)
      • 77.1 FT% (37/48)
      • Game Score Average: 19.49 (High: 26.5 / Low: 14.8)

    • Worst 10 Games:
      • 11.2 PTS | 7.0 REB | 2.2 AST | 0.9 STL | 1.2 BLK
      • 40.4 FG% (42/104)
      • 5.2 3P% (1/19)
      • 73.0 FT% (27/37)
      • Game Score Average: 8.56 (High: 11.1 / Low: 3.0)

    Derik Queen — Maryland


    • Best 10 Games:
      • 24.7 PTS | 10.0 REB | 2.2 AST | 1.1 STL | 1.3 BLK
      • 63.8 FG% (90/141)
      • 26.7 3P% (4/15)
      • 86.3 FT% (63/73)
      • Game Score Average: 22.82 (High: 30.5 / Low: 19.9)

    • Worst 10 Games:
      • 8.1 PTS | 7.7 REB | 1.5 AST | 0.5 STL | 0.9 BLK
      • 69.1 FG% (56/81)
      • 0.0 3P% (0/7)
      • 70.7 FT% (29/41)
      • Game Score Average: 4.43 (High: 9.6 / Low: -3.3)

    Khaman Maluach — Duke


    • Best 10 Games:
      • 14.6 PTS | 9.5 REB | 0.5 AST | 0.1 STL | 1.3 BLK
      • 80.3 FG% (57/71)
      • 0.0 3P% (0/3)
      • 88.9 FT% (32/36)
      • Game Score Average: 15.90 (High: 18.4 / Low: 13.5)

    • Worst 10 Games:
      • 2.7 PTS | 4.2 REB | 0.1 AST | 0.4 STL | 1.1 BLK
      • 45.8 FG% (11/24)
      • 0.0 3P% (0/2)
      • 83.3 FT% (5/6)
      • Game Score Average: 3.16 (High: 6.2 / Low: 0.5)


    Thomas Sorber is still incredibly raw in his development. He’s a bully in the middle who knows how to throw his weight around to demoralize defenders. Sorber knows he has the power advantage. Most importantly, he knows how to use it. Offensively, there’s a bundle of tools that look to just be clawing to be untapped. There’s some fantastic touch around the basket with both hands, as well as an intriguing outside shot as a kicker.
    With most incoming big man prospects, teams are looking for potential enforcers. That’s just what you get with Sorber. If you try to come into his house, he can slam the door emphatically in your face. The 19-year-old big man can get nasty in the paint, but he also knows how to stay vertical and when it’s the right time to meet someone at the rim with bad intentions. Let’s take a look.





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    Hawks could take Sorber with the Kings pick if it conveys

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