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    It was blocked, and that was a rebound.
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    things we know, if exstatic says it the opposite is true




    Even if it wasn’t blocked, it was a shot attempt, and every shot attempt has to have a corresponding rebound, either individual or team. If you throw up a shot that hits the side of the rim and goes out of bounds untouched, that is a team rebound for the defense.

    So, either that was blocked/tipped, or it was an airball. Either way, that is a Castle rebound.

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    Even if it wasn’t blocked, it was a shot attempt, and every shot attempt has to have a corresponding rebound, either individual or team. If you throw up a shot that hits the side of the rim and goes out of bounds untouched, that is a team rebound for the defense.

    So, either that was blocked/tipped, or it was an airball. Either way, that is a Castle rebound.
    I wanted him to get his trip-dub, but also understand why the stat-keeper wouldn't call it a "rebound" 23 feet from the basket on a shot that never had any chance of getting there.

    If a player heaves the ball from 70 feet and it's nowhere near the basket but a player catches it...do they deserve a rebound?

    Obviously up for interpretation, but it is what it is. Still a great game from Castle.

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    Even if it wasn’t blocked, it was a shot attempt, and every shot attempt has to have a corresponding rebound, either individual or team. If you throw up a shot that hits the side of the rim and goes out of bounds untouched, that is a team rebound for the defense.

    So, either that was blocked/tipped, or it was an airball. Either way, that is a Castle rebound.
    It was an attempted strip followed by an attempted pass. In no universe was that a shot attempt. Every day a player goes up for a shot attempt, realizes it isn't there, and tries to dump the ball off. Stop being an idiot

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    Is it me or that Refs are now giving Castle the whistle?

    He has the potential to average the high FTA as Harden or SGA

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    Excited to see what tricks he adds to his bag this summer, as well as the work on the jumper. You know Steph is a worker

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    Is it me or that Refs are now giving Castle the whistle?

    He has the potential to average the high FTA as Harden or SGA
    Winning the ROY will maximize that even more, and Castle knows and will exploit that every opportunity. His mid-game is coming along. Already averaging 22 pts as starter and main option the last 4 games, he will explode next year. Watch out.

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    he's not wrong. risacher had picked up some legitimate steam after putting up a strong march averaging an efficient 16ppg as his team was stacking wins on their way to a play-off push (9-5 record in march).

    but castle has just continued to put up numbers while risacher has only been decent in april.

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    Already averaging 22 pts as starter and main option the last 4 games, he will explode next year. Watch out.
    Maybe.

    He has got to improve his efficiency. Plus/minus is routinely kicking his ass, and the shooting percentages are part of that.

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    I like that he was targeting Curry’s lack of defense. The kid is a natural bully

    If he’s already like this in his rookie year, the more he will be as he gets NBA stronger, plus he’s starting to get the SGA-Harden foul treatment from the refs. It’s going to be ridiculously entertaining to watch.

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    Castle rookie year > SGA and Harden rookie year tbh

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    Castle rookie year > SGA and Harden rookie year tbh
    SGA wasn’t ROTY. Luka won it for the 2018-2019 season.

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    Castle rookie year > SGA and Harden rookie year tbh
    Let's look at relevant starting guards around the league.

    Worse rookie seasons than Castle: Garland, Jrue, Derrick, Brown, Brunson, Suggs, Herro, Maxey, SGA, FVV, Jamal Murray, Harden, Conley, Lavine, DDR, Booker, Scoot, Dejounte.
    Better rookie seasons than Castle: Mitc ( 21 before his first NBA game), Lillard (22 before his first NBA game), Cade, Trae, Luka, Curry, Morant, Kyrie, Fox.
    Around the same level as Castle: Haliburton, Lamelo.

    The only guards/playmakers who were better than Castle in their rookie year were all guaranteed offensive engines and Castle is easily a better defender than all of them.
    Considering that his projected playstyle and offensive output should be very reliable, I don't see how he misses out on all-star and all-NBA selections in his prime, after Fox falls off.

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    The only reason Castle didn’t have better stats was Wright limiting his minutes tbh.

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    Let's look at relevant starting guards around the league.

    Worse rookie seasons than Castle: Garland, Jrue, Derrick, Brown, Brunson, Suggs, Herro, Maxey, SGA, FVV, Jamal Murray, Harden, Conley, Lavine, DDR, Booker, Scoot, Dejounte.
    Better rookie seasons than Castle: Mitc ( 21 before his first NBA game), Lillard (22 before his first NBA game), Cade, Trae, Luka, Curry, Morant, Kyrie, Fox.
    Around the same level as Castle: Haliburton, Lamelo.

    The only guards/playmakers who were better than Castle in their rookie year were all guaranteed offensive engines and Castle is easily a better defender than all of them.
    Considering that his projected playstyle and offensive output should be very reliable, I don't see how he misses out on all-star and all-NBA selections in his prime, after Fox falls off.
    Gonna need that shot to start falling or else he'll look like Westbrook with less bounce against decent playoff teams, but if he can become a respectable shooter, guy should be very formidable.

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    Gonna need that shot to start falling or else he'll look like Westbrook with less bounce against decent playoff teams, but if he can become a respectable shooter, guy should be very formidable.
    He needs to at least develop a reliable middie ala Tony Parker. That should be enough for him to become the HOTS with shooters around him.

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    He's getting to the rim constantly despite not being a deep threat. He's too big and strong. Still messes up here or there, but already is establishing his whistle. He's going to be a beast if he gets those floaters and pull-ups down. If he gets a deep threat down, he'll be fearsome.

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    already is establishing his whistle.
    I think it's already been established.

    Per 36 stats:
    https://www.basketball-reference.com...er_minute.html

    Sory by FTA, Castle is #19 in the entire league.
    Out of those 18 ahead of him, 9 are 6'9 or taller.
    He's already one of the best guards in the league at getting to the line.

    5.7 FTA per 36 minutes, the same as Randle and KD, .1 behind KD, KAT, DDR and Mitc .

    What he needs to work on is his FT routine.
    He's got third worst percentage in top20 FTA after Giannis and RJ Barrett. Everyone else has at least 78%.

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    i'm starting to worry that some of these 'analytics' nerds are going to vote for risacher because he has less turnovers and a better shooting percentage. but risacher isn't running point. the other thing i keep hearing is that the hawks are still playing in meaningful games. but the hawks would have a crappy record if they were in the West. this may be much closer than some people think.

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    I actually was making that argument for Risacher about 3 weeks ago (saying that he's playing better as the season goes along, and not only that, playing well in games that mean more than what Castle is playing in), but really, their record isn't that far off of the Spurs', and they're in the East. Nah. No way, on that argument anymore. Steph's the rookie of the year easily. I wasn't super happy with Steph's efficiency at that point, but he's pulled away the past two weeks or so after Riscaher started getting closer. He's been running the team, making good passes and getting teammates involved, and the Spurs have been in most of these games while missing two huge pieces of the team in Victor and De'Aaron.

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    i'm starting to worry that some of these 'analytics' nerds are going to vote for risacher because he has less turnovers and a better shooting percentage. but risacher isn't running point. the other thing i keep hearing is that the hawks are still playing in meaningful games. but the hawks would have a crappy record if they were in the West. this may be much closer than some people think.
    While analytics are used for drafts and trades, the NBA media are still dinosaurs who base their votes on counting stats.

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