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    They did exactly that not even a year ago.
    And would you like to share with the class the glaring difference between last year and this year?

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    True Shooting % Draft Rankings


    If the Spurs decide they need to add shooting prospects these guys could help.



    • Cedric Coward - 70.0% post draft
    • Vladislav Goldin - 65.4% 2nd Round
    • John Tonje - 64.7% post Draft
    • Kon Knueppel - 64.2% top 10
    • Rasheer Fleming - 63.8% top 20
    • Koby Brea - 63.6% post draft
    • Sion James - 63.5% 2nd Round
    • Bogoljub Markovic - 62.5% 2nd Round
    • Jase Richardson - 62.4% top 15
    • Isiah Evans - 62.1% 2nd round
    • Sergio De Larrea - 61.8% 1st round
    • Nique Clifford - 60.3% top 20
    • Walter Clayton Jr. - 60.2% Top 20
    • Cooper Flagg - 59.3% 1st overall
    • Yaxel Lendeborg - 59.2% 1st round
    • Derek Harper - 58.7% top 3
    • Johann Grunloh - 58.5% post draft
    • Eric Dixon - 58.3% post draft
    • Alijah Martin - 57.6% post draft
    • Kobe Johnson - 57.5% post draft
    • Milan Momcilovic - 57.4% post draft
    • Jaxson Robinson - 56.9% post draft
    • Mark Sears - 56.7% post draft
    • Alex Toohey - 56.2% post draft
    • Maxime Raynaud - 55.8% 2nd round
    • Milos Uzan - 55.4 % 2nd Round
    • Payton Sandfort - 54.5% post draft



    These are the 27 prospects that shot over 45% FG, 33% 3-pt and 70% FT. Obviously this doesn’t paint the full picture so I added where the Spurs could get them based on talent and I added exceptions that could be better shooters with less volume below. Also not sure who Cedric Coward is but he only played 6 games so not sure if he was just hot or if he is a sleeper.


    Exceptions. These players could be better shooters with less volume in the NBA.



    • Kasparas Jakucionis- 59.0% top 15
    • Tre Johnson - 55.7% top 10
    • VJ Edgecombe- 55.2% top 5
    • Ace Bailey - 53.6% top 5
    • Liam Mcneely 52.9% top 20







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    Looking at that list, I'm intrigued by Jase Richardson and Rasheer Fleming.

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    Cedric Coward Draft Sleeper:


    So after seeing he had a 70.0% True Shooting % in College I decided to go watch this guys tape last night. Only found 3 full games and a couple of highlight videos but damn was I impressed. It’s a small sample size but these are the notes I made:


    Good shooting form with quick and high release. Starts a little low below the chest but still gets it up quick.


    Long arms would not be surprised if he has a 7’0 foot wingspan


    Average athlete at best but shows very high basketball IQ as a defensive and offensive prospect. Tough and compe ive


    Very tough on defense. Decent foot speed but uses his strength and long arms to disrupt. 1.7 blocks per game as a guard. Shows a lot of compe iveness even when being beat off the dribble. Excellent post defense for a guard. Hold his ground against much bigger opponents. Looks to have very strong lower body strength. Very switchable but also great at fighting through screens. Great rebounding for a guard with 7 per game


    Offensively I figured he would just be a shooter looking at the stats but he scores multiple ways. Very good slasher. Scores when he attacks basket. Decent handles for a big guard. Absolutely abuses smaller players in the post. Very good footwork. Very unselfish. Looked for teammates often. Averaged 3.7 assists. Knock down shooter 40.0% at high volume


    Smaller school guy who transferred from Eastern Washington to Washington State. Sample size is small with only 6 games this past season due to a shoulder injury. So the Medicals would have to check out. Definitely concerns about level of compe ion. May go back to school I think he has 1 more year of eligibility.


    Stats:


    17.7 Pts
    7.0 Reb
    3.7 AST
    1.7 Blk
    0.8 Stl
    55.7% fg
    40.0% 3-pt
    83.9% ft
    26.0 PER


    Overall he is the type of prospect that will go under the radar that the Spurs will love because of his versatility and IQ. Ready made prospect that wouldn’t need alot of improvement just fine tuning. Would love him in the 2nd Round or as a non drafted two-way player but would also not be surprised if he rose up draft boards after combine and workouts should he declare.


















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    Cedric Coward Draft Sleeper:


    So after seeing he had a 70.0% True Shooting % in College I decided to go watch this guys tape last night. Only found 3 full games and a couple of highlight videos but damn was I impressed. It’s a small sample size but these are the notes I made:


    Good shooting form with quick and high release. Starts a little low below the chest but still gets it up quick.


    Long arms would not be surprised if he has a 7’0 foot wingspan


    Average athlete at best but shows very high basketball IQ as a defensive and offensive prospect. Tough and compe ive


    Very tough on defense. Decent foot speed but uses his strength and long arms to disrupt. 1.7 blocks per game as a guard. Shows a lot of compe iveness even when being beat off the dribble. Excellent post defense for a guard. Hold his ground against much bigger opponents. Looks to have very strong lower body strength. Very switchable but also great at fighting through screens. Great rebounding for a guard with 7 per game


    Offensively I figured he would just be a shooter looking at the stats but he scores multiple ways. Very good slasher. Scores when he attacks basket. Decent handles for a big guard. Absolutely abuses smaller players in the post. Very good footwork. Very unselfish. Looked for teammates often. Averaged 3.7 assists. Knock down shooter 40.0% at high volume


    Smaller school guy who transferred from Eastern Washington to Washington State. Sample size is small with only 6 games this past season due to a shoulder injury. So the Medicals would have to check out. Definitely concerns about level of compe ion. May go back to school I think he has 1 more year of eligibility.


    Stats:


    17.7 Pts
    7.0 Reb
    3.7 AST
    1.7 Blk
    0.8 Stl
    55.7% fg
    40.0% 3-pt
    83.9% ft
    26.0 PER


    Overall he is the type of prospect that will go under the radar that the Spurs will love because of his versatility and IQ. Ready made prospect that wouldn’t need alot of improvement just fine tuning. Would love him in the 2nd Round or as a non drafted two-way player but would also not be surprised if he rose up draft boards after combine and workouts should he declare.

















    To me, using a 6 game sample is the same as trying to shoe horn a player who plays 6 minutes into his per 36 stats. It’s just not enough court time.

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    To me, using a 6 game sample is the same as trying to shoe horn a player who plays 6 minutes into his per 36 stats. It’s just not enough court time.

    Fair enough but he looks like Jalen Williams to me. Same style of game. I trust my eyes. Once again small sample size but better shooting numbers than Klay Thompson his final year at Washington State with similar amounts of volume. Just a sleeper is all I’m saying

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    These two have been my fav sleeper picks for a few months. Fleming seems like a good change of pace from Sochan with his offensive floor spacing and active help defense. The team needs another true PF anyway, so I don't hate it even though he'll need some time to develop.

    Richardson is exactly the kind of combo guard the Spurs' FO repeatedly falls in love with. So if McLaughlin and CP3 are gone I could see him pushing Wesley for backup minutes behind Fox. (Side note: I cannot think of a better full-time mentor for Wesley than De'Aaron Fox, since TP barely comes around the team these days. If anyone is going to unlock BW, it's Fox)

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    I'd be happy with Fleming and MCNeeley

    Wemby
    Fleming
    McNeeley
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    Fox

    That's a good starting lineup.

    Fleming is solid all around and would complement sochan's short comings in 3 pt shooting at PF and has good positional size/wingspan lenght and good athleticism who can run with the Spurs athletic guards and finish at the rim.

    I believe McNeeley will be better than his shooting stats last year would indicate(passes the eye test for ball handling / shooting form/ quickness/ passing/ ability to get to the rim and finish strong) and he has true positional size for a SF and enough athleticism to not be a liability for an NBA SF.

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    I just don't see a reason to burn that first pick on Fleming. He will be there for the second pick.

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    I just don't see a reason to burn that first pick on Fleming. He will be there for the second pick.
    I'd rather have both Fleming and McNeeley over Kneuppel.

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    I'd rather have both Fleming and McNeeley over Kneuppel.
    I'm good with Kon on the first pick and Fleming on the second.

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    I think McNeely is going to be a riser going into rhe draft after individual workouts. I have him 6 overall and while I don't expect him to go that high, I also don't expect him to be there with the Atlanta pick. For that 4 spot I really like Fleming and Bryant.

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    I know the lottery is not done but are we getting the 8th pick and 14 or 15 at best?

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    I know the lottery is not done but are we getting the 8th pick and 14 or 15 at best?
    Do you?

    Your question is nonsensical, because you’re asking to predict the future. The question will answer itself in a short while.

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    Visa stuff aside (and I don't see us being reluctant because of that), I really like Maluach.

    He probably will go to Toronto (even giving him some kind of visa insurance) but that makes Poeltl available.

    Is there a world, in which we get our hands on Poeltl? Problem should be our contracts. I personally like Keldon and don't want to trade him...but if we use our pick(s) on a wing, it makes a lot of sense.
    Is Poeltl overpaid as a backup anyway? With Wemby being managed and able to play some 4 at least he could still get to 18-22 minutes.

    I'm still high on Danny Wolf though...is he enough as a Wemby backup? I'd #15 already a reach for him?

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    I just don't see a reason to burn that first pick on Fleming. He will be there for the second pick.
    IDK that wingspan and shooting ability might end up having him go way above what the mocks are projecting when the picks are made by real GMs with their jobs on the line. If the Spurs pick 8-10 and love this guy I might just take him then. Especially when Kon probably won't be there at #8.

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    Btw: Why many mocks and even a lot of people here have the Spurs taking a PG (mostly Fears...sometimes Traore)?

    Fox, Castle, Wesley and maybe even CP3 for one more year should have us really fine there. I can see it with a guy like Demin or Kasparis as they can play the wing (even though their shooting would hurt) but not with pure PGs.

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    Btw: Why many mocks and even a lot of people here have the Spurs taking a PG (mostly Fears...sometimes Traore)?

    Fox, Castle, Wesley and maybe even CP3 for one more year should have us really fine there. I can see it with a guy like Demin or Kasparis as they can play the wing (even though their shooting would hurt) but not with pure PGs.
    I'd be pretty surprised if CP3 didn't take one last shot at a ring on the Lakers now that they're a le contender again with Luka. Especially with his family being in LA still.

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    Btw: Why many mocks and even a lot of people here have the Spurs taking a PG (mostly Fears...sometimes Traore)?

    Fox, Castle, Wesley and maybe even CP3 for one more year should have us really fine there. I can see it with a guy like Demin or Kasparis as they can play the wing (even though their shooting would hurt) but not with pure PGs.
    Because there is a chance he can be a star and can be used for a trade.I mean it wont hurt having him coming off the bench.Doubt he
    will be worst then branham and wesley.

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    Btw: Why many mocks and even a lot of people here have the Spurs taking a PG (mostly Fears...sometimes Traore)?

    Fox, Castle, Wesley and maybe even CP3 for one more year should have us really fine there. I can see it with a guy like Demin or Kasparis as they can play the wing (even though their shooting would hurt) but not with pure PGs.
    I think if he gets into the right situation, Fears is going to be great. He was ranked 40th in his recruiting class, and he’s now being mocked top 10 in this draft by many services, and that’s with Europeans dropped into the mix, too. He’s a young kid, an 18 YO draftee in June. I don’t see him as a redundancy, long term. Castle is multi-positional, CP has one year left, at best, and who knows what Blake Wesley really is. He only started getting minutes when Wemby and Fox got shut down, meaningless minutes on a team trying to lose. This will be unpopular, but I really see Fox as a one contract guy, 4-5 years. He will be SUPER expensive (35% of the cap) after that, and likely hamper roster quality. It would be nice to have one or more development options in the pipeline.

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    Cooper had a thing where instead of declaring, he's saying he may need more time to consider staying in college. Speculation that he wants to see who gets the #1 pick and might pull out if it's not going the right way.

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    I would agree I see Fox just staying through his first contract and Fears does have legit talent and high upside potential it will be interesting to see what path the Spurs will go.

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    IMO there's not a prayer they take Fears. Him and Fox are practically the same player, tiny guards with poor defense, dynamic attacks, not great shooting from deep, and decent playmaking for others. They'll commit 50 mil or whatever for Fox a year and won't have practically the same guy coming off the bench.

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    Cooper had a thing where instead of declaring, he's saying he may need more time to consider staying in college. Speculation that he wants to see who gets the #1 pick and might pull out if it's not going the right way.
    If the speculation is correct, I wonder which team(s) he would be avoiding. I can't recall someone trying to dictate their destination in the draft in quite awhile. There are some train wreck teams but I feel like even those have some credible talent moving forward.

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