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    If the speculation is correct, I wonder which team(s) he would be avoiding. I can't recall someone trying to dictate their destination in the draft in quite awhile. There are some train wreck teams but I feel like even those have some credible talent moving forward.
    My guess, absolutely Charlotte. Possibly Washington. Maybe Utah. Maybe Toronto.

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    I know this is the draft board, but would Walker Kessler fit our roster? I am wondering if we would be able to play him next to Wemby. If so, I wonder what we would have to give up to get him, especially the draft capital. Also, if he does fit and we go get him, where does our focus now go in the draft?

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    Fleming is a must pick for Spurs.

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    Khaman at #2 is too high. Top 8 for sure.

    Kon is also too high. Jaku too low. I'll not not surprised to see Kon and Jaku switch spots. Jaku's play maker value is higher than Kon's 3-point and secondary play-making.

    I'll happy to see Spurs pick Fleming at 8, and Kon at 14. Yes. I think Kon will be available at 14.

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    Cooper had a thing where instead of declaring, he's saying he may need more time to consider staying in college. Speculation that he wants to see who gets the #1 pick and might pull out if it's not going the right way.
    I was actually asking this question a couple of months ago. I really don't think Cooper wants to play for a crappy franchise, so that is why I asked this question a little while ago. If true, I wonder which teams he wouldn't be interested in (If I had to guess, I'd say Charlotte, Washington due to neither team having a winning culture, and then possibly Toronto, Utah and maybe New Orleans). Since he picked a college team that has a winning culture, I think he wants to play for a team like that in the NBA.

    Can the players still decide after the draft lottery if they want to go back to college if they don't like what team/s get the top picks (I thought you have to decide before the draft lottery?)? What is the cutoff date where you have to decide whether you want to declare for the draft or stay in college?
    Also, can a player change his mind after declaring for the draft and go back and still re-enter the draft the following year?
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    I was actually asking this question a couple of months ago. I really don't think Cooper wants to play for a crappy franchise, so that is why I asked this question a little while ago. If true, I wonder which teams he wouldn't be interested in (If I had to guess, I'd say Charlotte, Washington due to neither team having a winning culture, and then possibly Toronto, Utah and maybe New Orleans). Since he picked a college team that has a winning culture, I think he wants to play for a team like that in the NBA.

    Can the players still decide after the draft lottery if they want to go back to college if they don't like what team/s get the top picks (I thought you have to decide before the draft lottery?)? What is the cutoff date where you have to decide whether you want to declare for the draft or stay in college?
    Also, can a player change his mind after declaring for the draft and go back and still re-enter the draft the following year?
    The lottery drawing is May 12 and players can withdraw and return to college up to 10 days before the actual draft which would be June 15.

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    damn how bad would it be for fans if their team got #1 and Cooper is like welp going back to school another year I guess

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    damn how bad would it be for fans if their team got #1 and Cooper is like welp going back to school another year I guess
    Hilarious, unless it's the Spurs. Hopefully he's got a good head on his shoulders and sees the value of playing with Wemby and the team improving quickly.

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    Anyone seeing Castle’s natural tendencies these last 20 games should see that he has a knack for doing a dump off pass to Biyombo, which is all the more reason they need to pick up a big who is skilled inside. Wemby will only be there half the time as he likes to float on the perimeter for the other half.

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    Anyone seeing Castle’s natural tendencies these last 20 games should see that he has a knack for doing a dump off pass to Biyombo, which is all the more reason they need to pick up a big who is skilled inside. Wemby will only be there half the time as he likes to float on the perimeter for the other half.

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    Anyone seeing Castle’s natural tendencies these last 20 games should see that he has a knack for doing a dump off pass to Biyombo, which is all the more reason they need to pick up a big who is skilled inside. Wemby will only be there half the time as he likes to float on the perimeter for the other half.
    will what big is that? fleming,sorber or wolf maybe?

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    Visa stuff aside (and I don't see us being reluctant because of that), I really like Maluach.

    He probably will go to Toronto (even giving him some kind of visa insurance) but that makes Poeltl available.

    Is there a world, in which we get our hands on Poeltl? Problem should be our contracts. I personally like Keldon and don't want to trade him...but if we use our pick(s) on a wing, it makes a lot of sense.
    Is Poeltl overpaid as a backup anyway? With Wemby being managed and able to play some 4 at least he could still get to 18-22 minutes.

    I'm still high on Danny Wolf though...is he enough as a Wemby backup? I'd #15 already a reach for him?
    I also like Danny Wolf. Wolf is a very smart bball player and legit 7 footer 250 lb. I’m not overly concerned with his “lack of athleticism” with the best help defender of the NBA ready to swat whoever Wolf slows down. His turnovers are from playing facilitator at Michigan (imagine Sochan playing PG but 10x more effective). So I’m fine with Wolf at ATL pick or trade down and get more future picks.

    Spurs can really address their need for PF/C need at this draft. Sorber/Fleming or Sorber/Wolf. I like Kon but watching Champ play, I think he can play the Danny Green 3nD. Move Vassell to 6th man or trade him. Champ at SF is ideal.

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    I was actually asking this question a couple of months ago. I really don't think Cooper wants to play for a crappy franchise, so that is why I asked this question a little while ago. If true, I wonder which teams he wouldn't be interested in (If I had to guess, I'd say Charlotte, Washington due to neither team having a winning culture, and then possibly Toronto, Utah and maybe New Orleans). Since he picked a college team that has a winning culture, I think he wants to play for a team like that in the NBA.

    Can the players still decide after the draft lottery if they want to go back to college if they don't like what team/s get the top picks (I thought you have to decide before the draft lottery?)? What is the cutoff date where you have to decide whether you want to declare for the draft or stay in college?
    Also, can a player change his mind after declaring for the draft and go back and still re-enter the draft the following year?
    Has any projected #1 went back and risk it all? That’s a big risk to take. So I doubt it.

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    We've talked about this before - but there are a lot of scenarios where Flagg can exert pressure on teams to dictate his destination, and NIL money is a little bit of a Sword of Damocles that comes into play. It provides just enough of a threat to make returning to school a viable option to give teams a little bit of a pucker of their booties.

    Another key thing to watch is not whether a team Flagg doesn't like lands #1, but if a team he does like jumps up into the Top 4 (SAS, PHI, HOU, CHI, MIA, BKN, DAL, ATL might be markets that appeal to him)... then he gets even more leverage because he makes an exit path more palatable for a team with #1 where he might want to go. For example, a team like CHA is more likely to just call his bluff if their alternative is trading back to #8. Because in that case, they're faced with the choice of Flagg or Harper, or getting someone at #8 plus extra assets. They'll just stay put and take Harper. But if they only need to trade back to #2, then their choice is Flagg or Harper or Harper plus assets. It's up to them to decide if the risk of Flagg withdrawing is worth passing up the extra assets.

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    Why would Flagg not want to play for Charlotte. He's already close to Charlotte playing for Duke and Charlotte does have some good players.

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    “The Spurs don’t talk about stats (in regards to Castle), they talk about presence in the locker room, compe iveness, intangibles”

    I’ve been saying this. The Spurs will draft exactly the same way. Who from the draft meets this criteria? I know who, but I’ll let y’all figure it out. Here’s a tip: watch interviews from the player and that player’s teammates and coaches.

    Here’s one:
    https://www.fayobserver.com/story/sp...n/75752157007/

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    Has any projected #1 went back and risk it all? That’s a big risk to take. So I doubt it.
    NIL is changing things. He could be making $8 million staying for another year, for example. The risk is that next year it's still the same teams in the mix (mostly) and he may not go #1.

    Like, assuming there are three preferred teams right now. Generously I'm going to say SAS with Phila and Brooklyn. Those are good markets and have pretty decent structure. Then there are some other teams that have good fanbases or other advantages, like Portland.

    It's not clear what teams will be bad next year. Detroit got very good this year, for example. Those preferred teams above may not be contenders for top 4 picks next year.

    I dunno. Seriously doubt he stays, but if it's Charlotte, , I'd play college for another year. Terrible franchise, bad fan base, a team with a guy who beat up his wife, a guy who brought a gun to a friend at a nightclub, and a 'franchise' guy who just chucks up the wildest . I can't imagine wanting to play for them.

    But the NIL does change things. Takes a hit on the long-term, but he's still high school age and rolling the dice after taking a cool $8 million or so playing at Duke isn't a bad option.

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    “The Spurs don’t talk about stats (in regards to Castle), they talk about presence in the locker room, compe iveness, intangibles”

    I’ve been saying this. The Spurs will draft exactly the same way. Who from the draft meets this criteria? I know who, but I’ll let y’all figure it out. Here’s a tip: watch interviews from the player and that player’s teammates and coaches.

    Here’s one:
    https://www.fayobserver.com/story/sp...n/75752157007/
    Yeah, I think Knueppel looks exactly like what they'd be going for. He'd be a perfect piece out of this draft playing a swing/wing role. Can connect, run plays, cut, shoot, really smart player.

    I'm finding myself intrigued by Tre Johnson a lot again. His scoring was exceptional on a bad Texas team and his off-ball abilities are pretty enticing. I'd probably slot him behind Knupp in that potential range but he could be a firecracker playing off Vic, Castle and Fox. A team that's not able to pay attention to him could be in trouble.

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    will what big is that? fleming,sorber or wolf maybe?
    I’m warming up to Queen again tbh. The defense might be bad, but if we’re all in awe of how flashy Castle’s crossovers, deceleration, creative passing, and all the flair… i think Queen has the same flashiness Castle has on offense. Queen’s offense is elite as a big man and I think adding him will mean we’re on prime time TV all the time.

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    Here's some Kon propaganda:


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    "Big time passes" subjectively qualified as "high level passes with respect to vision, anticipation, placement, usually tight window high value passes"

    Top left is strictly play finishers
    Bottom right are high level connectors / secondary creator potential

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    NIL is changing things. He could be making $8 million staying for another year, for example. The risk is that next year it's still the same teams in the mix (mostly) and he may not go #1.

    Like, assuming there are three preferred teams right now. Generously I'm going to say SAS with Phila and Brooklyn. Those are good markets and have pretty decent structure. Then there are some other teams that have good fanbases or other advantages, like Portland.

    It's not clear what teams will be bad next year. Detroit got very good this year, for example. Those preferred teams above may not be contenders for top 4 picks next year.

    I dunno. Seriously doubt he stays, but if it's Charlotte, , I'd play college for another year. Terrible franchise, bad fan base, a team with a guy who beat up his wife, a guy who brought a gun to a friend at a nightclub, and a 'franchise' guy who just chucks up the wildest . I can't imagine wanting to play for them.

    But the NIL does change things. Takes a hit on the long-term, but he's still high school age and rolling the dice after taking a cool $8 million or so playing at Duke isn't a bad option.
    The other risk is that his knee explodes like Shaun Livingston’s, and that $8M has to last him the rest of his life. It would be ABSOLUTELY stupid to go back to Duke.

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    The other risk is that his knee explodes like Shaun Livingston’s, and that $8M has to last him the rest of his life. It would be ABSOLUTELY stupid to go back to Duke.
    I still wouldn't want to play for Charlotte.

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    I still wouldn't want to play for Charlotte.
    If Charlotte spends #1 on you,they’re at least going to pay out your first contract, like ~$50M over 4 years, even if you get hurt. Look at New Orleans and Zion. They just can’t quit him, and they really need to at this point, well into his second deal. Teams are extremely reluctant to give up on #1 overall draft picks.

    Just tell Charlotte that if they pick you, you’ll sign your year 5 tender offer and walk for nothing. They’ll trade back.

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    The other risk is that his knee explodes like Shaun Livingston’s, and that $8M has to last him the rest of his life. It would be ABSOLUTELY stupid to go back to Duke.
    I'm pretty sure that a large insurance policy would be in place to protect future earning if a major injury occurred.

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