Spurs Select F Jeremy Sochan with the 9th Pick in the 2022 NBA Draft

[Jordan Jackson]

The new CBA is crippling. There isn’t going to be “easy” to move bad contracts. Goal should be not to offer them to begin with. Jesus - the Bulls couldn’t give LaVine away. Contract is finally easier to stomach with 2 years left and well the Kangz.

As long as Pop is in charge Sochan is and will remain part of the “core”’. That’s the hill the front office plans on dying on. The hope I think people are trying to express is the Spurs don’t overpay in the process - impacting future moves/additions.

[exstatic]

The new CBA is crippling. There isn’t going to be “easy” to move bad contracts. Goal should be not to offer them to begin with. Jesus - the Bulls couldn’t give LaVine away. Contract is finally easier to stomach with 2 years left and well the Kangz.

As long as Pop is in charge Sochan is and will remain part of the “core”’. That’s the hill the front office plans on dying on. The hope I think people are trying to express is the Spurs don’t overpay in the process - impacting future moves/additions.

A “Bad Contract” is subjective and subject to personal biases. I guarantee you, though, that no $20M contract will be difficult to move, and in fact, may be a key factor in jumping into a trade as a 3rd party. I mean, Bradley Beal, on a $50M no trade contract got moved less than 2 years ago.

I used buy into the Unmoveable Contract trope, but after watching Bradley Beal, John Wall, and Russell Westbrook X 2 all get moved on contracts over $50M that they weren’t earning, I kinda don’t buy into that any more.

[LeBowen]

I used buy into the Unmoveable Contract trope, but after watching Bradley Beal, John Wall, and Russell Westbrook X 2 all get moved on contracts over $50M that they weren’t earning, I kinda don’t buy into that any more.

The thing is that Suns didn't see Beal as a bad contract in that trade, they thought he'll improve the team. Which was obviously completely wrong, but they got him to improve the team.
Wall got traded for Westbrook, Rockets were in full tank mode because Harden already left.

The only unexplainable trade was Lakers getting Westbrook, but that's some more incompetence.
In most cases, there will be a sucker that can be tricked into taking on an awful contract.

I agree that cheaper contracts will always be moveable, it's just about the value that can be had in return.
We could've easily had an average FRP for Keldon a couple of years ago, nowdays I'm not sure he's got even neutral value.
Devin's value also plummeted.

[Patt]

is anyone else su ious of this jermey back injury? sounds like BS to me, was he even at the game vs the cavs?

[dn0774]

is anyone else su ious of this jermey back injury? sounds like BS to me, was he even at the game vs the cavs?

Normally I’d say it’s a “shut him down for tanking purposes” move like I thought we did last year with Devin (and others) but then Devin had to get surgery and has just barely rounded into form a bit finally. Hopefully Sochan is alright but we might not know until he is supposed to play for Poland this summer.

[spursistan]

Just look at this guy so desperately looking for every excuse under the sun to justify his underperformance and stagnation as a player. What a loser and gutless mentality. The hair-dying shtick and in-game theatrics never fooled me.

[Jordan Jackson]

Just look at this guy so desperately looking for every excuse under the sun to justify his underperformance and stagnation as a player. What a loser and gutless mentality. The hair-dying shtick and in-game theatrics never fooled me.

Agreed. But it’s working for him. His place on the team is safe barring some lottery luck. From a basketball perspective Wemby and Fox will have to carry him.

We are witnessing the punitive nature of the second apron play out in real time. The Suns are screwed. They were still operating like the old CBA was in play. Never should have traded for that Beal contract. The KD one is bad too - where do you send him to get tax relief?

Clippers dumped George for nothing because they wanted no part of the tax and they got the richest owner in the league.

Boston is next.

Spurs like Sochan. They like to pay their “culture”’guys and that’s ok. Even though all the spurs have at the moment is a culture of losing. Just don’t overpay the guy. More talent needs to be added to the roster they shouldn’t be tying up money on middling players.

[Knoxxx]

Sochan has played is way into an affordable contract, given his frequent injuries and inconsistency. As a situational player, he still has value for us.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

Sochan has played is way into an affordable contract, given his frequent injuries and inconsistency. As a situational player, he still has value for us.

Yes. His performance may save us money. Lock him for 4 years $60 million. He is still a good perimeter defender. Can still develop into an adequate 3-point shooter.

[rascal]

I was told year three players have a big jump in production. I didn't see any improvement from Sochan. His stats are the same across three years now.

[scott]

Just let him hit RFA. I can see no mutually agreeable solution to an extension this summer.

With that said, I expect the Spurs to significantly overpay him this summer. The sniffers will tell us it's actually a good thing because then he can be used as trade ballast, but his trade value will just continue to diminish just like it has for every other player we've overpaid.

[KobesAchilles]

Dude made 28 threes for the entire season. And we had posters on here clamoring about how hard he worked on his shot during the offseason. Sochan will never be a 3 point threat. If we do anything over 4 years $60 million it is a horrible contract.

i seriously doubt he will be on the team in 3 years anyways.

[Knoxxx]

Sochan had a TS% of almost .600 you buffoons!

[CorrectCrusader]

Another year another 365 days of Sochan being extremely underwhelming and not improving

[John B]

If we have Queen/Wemby in the middle, I think Sochan can spot 3 like Bowen did (while I rather have a true knock down shooter like Champ. Spurs need more shooters to surround Queen like Fleming when Wemby sits. Or run a transition basketball as originally designed, Sochan to rim-run and start the transition offense, but his passing through traffic is left to be desired.

[Knoxxx]

Sochan regressed as the season went on and the injuries didn’t help but if you actually check his stats it was his most efficient year yet on offense. No, it didn’t pass the eye test but 11.4 6.5 on .589 TS# with positive assist/TO in 25 MPG is passable for a defensive specialist.

[spurraider21]

ah so wemby starting with 4 below average shooters in Queen, Sochan, Castle, and Fox

i'll just pre-order the laker jersey tbh

[Knoxxx]

I didn’t notice who said they wanted Sochan starting?

[Jordan Jackson]

Sochan had a TS% of almost .600 you buffoons!

I don’t think opposing teams care what he does though. They are happy when he’s on the court trying to score.

[John B]

ah so wemby starting with 4 below average shooters in Queen, Sochan, Castle, and Fox

i'll just pre-order the laker jersey tbh

I prefer knockdown shooters around Wemby and Queen (if ever they drafted him). Queen is such a beast in the middle and should command double-teams, creating open shots around.

[Obstructed_View]

Sochan regressed as the season went on and the injuries didn’t help but if you actually check his stats it was his most efficient year yet on offense. No, it didn’t pass the eye test but 11.4 6.5 on .589 TS# with positive assist/TO in 25 MPG is passable for a defensive specialist.

Sochan has loads of talent which he has been coasting on his entire career. He is still milking the one handed free throw thing to trick the re s into thinking he's actually putting in work. The people who put the numbers on his contract know how hard he's actually working in the gym.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

I prefer knockdown shooters around Wemby and Queen (if ever they drafted him). Queen is such a beast in the middle and should command double-teams, creating open shots around.

The problem is Fox and castle are not good 3 shooters. So, starting Queen doesn't work for Spurs. Would have to Bench Castle and reinvent the offensive Scheme. Have to wait another year for guys to adapt.

PLus, Queen likely won't be available at 8. Some other teams will pick him as their franchise player. I understand he is a good player. But It doesn't mean he won't mess up Spur's game.

[John B]

The problem is Fox and castle are not good 3 shooters. So, starting Queen doesn't work for Spurs. Would have to Bench Castle and reinvent the offensive Scheme. Have to wait another year for guys to adapt.

PLus, Queen likely won't be available at 8. Some other teams will pick him as their franchise player. I understand he is a good player. But It doesn't mean he won't mess up Spur's game.

Spurs might get lucky to have a choice between Queen and Sorber at 8th!

[SpurSpike]

I was told year three players have a big jump in production. I didn't see any improvement from Sochan. His stats are the same across three years now.

He was playing really well to start the season when he was playing primarily PF. He then had his finger injury around December and never really found his groove after that. There may be a reason though, has been playing out of position at center for much of the second half of this season because we traded our only healthy backup big man.

[John B]

He was playing really well to start the season when he was playing primarily PF. He then had his finger injury around December and never really found his groove after that. There may be a reason though, has been playing out of position at center for much of the second half of this season because we traded our only healthy backup big man.

I don’t know what they’re trying to do with Sochan. Make him a big PG ala Ben Simmons, or a Draymond/Rodman defensive PF. In my opinion his defense is overrated. He’s pesky but not really a lockdown defender. He’s successfully annoyed good players to drop career highs on the Spurs. He’s a good cutter, but maybe because teams leave him because he’s reluctant to shoot. If Spurs draft Fleming, it’s a good indicator they’re moving away from Sochan.

I liked Sochan when Spurs drafted him, but his reluctance to shoot. He’ll push the ball down just to stop at the key to pass, cannot pass through traffic without turning it over. Bowen wasn’t a baller, but he knew his assignment. If he could defend and shoot like Bowen, then yeah.