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You agreed with something I said last week, and I almost fainted.
"Geography has made us neighbors. History has made us friends. Economics has made us partners. And necessity has made us allies. Those whom nature hath so joined together, let no man put asunder. What unites us is far greater than what divides us.”
Obviously we're going to trade Vassell + KJ for Durant, and as bruno suggested sign and trade for Naz in exchange for Branham/Wesley/Mamu
Fox/Castle/Durant/Reid/Wemby with a bench unit featuring Sochan/Barnes/Champagnie and somebody to run point
You‘d have to trade somebody to get Naz in a sign and trade. There‘s no cap space left
Spurs could also spend a third round pick to trade this S&T player to another team than Minny.
I'm for spending as many third round picks as we have in order to get good players.
Come on man everybody with a brain knows the Wolves are not trading Naz Reid for 3 players that they are going to waive. Also Mamu is not signed for next season, he‘s a free agent. The same goes for McLaughlin. Wesley and Branham make less than 10 million combined, if Reid‘s salary was that low he‘d just take the MLE. He‘ll at least demand 20 per year.
Naz Reid will have teams offering $25M-$30M per year imo.
Almost no teams have anywhere near that cap room, and the ones that do are crap teams. Second apron has made this a different day.
What do you think, it would take to get Reid...maybe even in a S&T.
As I see it, our FO either loves one of the bigs in the draft (Maluach?) or goes for a wing (Knueppel?).
If it's the former you may just run it back and see if Vassel can become enough of a 3&D player, we need him to be and if Keldon can be the 6th man he was later this season.
But if it's the rookie wing, isn't Reid still the perfect solution at 4 plus Wemby backup?
Is Vassell enough or do we have to include a pick (#15 or whatever it will be, the swap in 203something?)?...After all his contracts basically runs out anyway.
Might be a good thing, if Minnesota does badly in the playoffs. That way, Ried might flirt with a change of scenery.
Vassell is definitely not enough imo, probably have to give one of our 1sts this year too. Only caveat is if Reid threatens to walk to Spurs in FA (MLE?) but I think Wolves wouldn't take that as a serious threat as Naz's value is much higher than MLE.
Any relation to JR Reid?
Seems to me we can easily get Naz Reid. Don't need to trade for him. Just dump Devin's salary + SRDs to a crap team and use the salary to sign Reid 4-year $100 million.
I don't see any other team will be have better offers, as Exstatic mentioned above.
What team is going to just take Vassell off our hands for us for free? He has negative value
They would let go of Reid because of the second apron crunch. They’re not taking Vassell for that reason. Our best trade chip might be Barnes ending contract, plus picks.
Negative, just like Zach Collins right? Unreadable.
Also, Devin’s contract isn’t the only way to get Naz. If he indicates he wants to go to the Spurs there are many ways to get it done.
obviously
Teams like Pelicans, Nets, Washington may see Devin's value as a 3rd option. His recent numbers are pretty good.
This is the top 10 in expected cap space this offseason.
1 BKN
9 24.3 $174,146,775 $-19,499,775 $91,807,098 $63,497,156 $49,294,390 - 2 DET
10 24.7 $185,084,379 $-30,437,379 $24,632,990 $127,468,272 $80,295,896 - 3 NOP
13 26.7 $230,118,551 $-75,471,551 $21,672,192 $176,060,844 $101,669,858 - 4 CHI
12 26.1 $185,890,885 $-31,243,885 $19,800,666 $134,846,334 $57,561,977 - 5 HOU
12 25.3 $244,764,988 $-90,117,988 $19,293,049 $190,321,540 $112,165,217 - 6 MEM
11 25.3 $196,075,648 $-41,428,648 $17,515,972 $135,394,109 $99,585,155 $464,050 7 WAS
14 25.4 $238,887,538 $-84,240,538 $14,491,522 $157,758,407 $87,447,416 - 8 UTA
15 24.7 $156,781,316 $-2,134,316 $13,904,899 $152,684,328 $92,149,100 - 9 CHA
12 24.9 $172,595,850 $-17,948,850 $12,363,215 $151,229,689 $82,333,760 - 10 SAS
10 24.5 $173,746,928 $-19,099,928 $8,782,650 $143,318,612 $83,096,620 -
Think Nets may be the only team that could actually absorb DV without sending salary back and think Spurs would have to clear $16M+ for Naz at $25M.
Det has Ivey, NOP with DJM, Chi with White, Hou with Green, Grizz with Bane and Wells. Was, UTA, Cha you've gotta take back $10+M to make it work. Was is paying Pool $32M next yr, Cha needs D at the 2 but maybe that could work. UTA may be the best fit but Sexton, George, Clarkson, Collier is a small gaurd rotation, DV would basically be they're SF and I think Ainge would make us pay.
I'd prolly rather roll the dice that DV looked bad after surgery, next yr he'll (finally) understand the tank is over, he's not a featured guy anymore, and its not okay to dribble for 18 secs. The effort on better on D, fingers crossed he gets his roll will be to mostly just spot-up on O.
Flip side, there's not a lot of FA money for Naz, Det is the only fit with money, sign/trade is very possible and that'll cost way less than what half the board wanted to give up for an older, more expansive, worse 2-way player in Lauri. But Naz would be a nice fit with the Pistons.
Last edited by Arguendo; 04-18-2025 at 12:33 PM.
Thank you for the info! Good news that only Detroit has fit and money for Naz Reid.This is the top 10 in expected cap space this offseason.
1 9 24.3 $174,146,775 $-19,499,775 $91,807,098 $63,497,156 $49,294,390 - 2 10 24.7 $185,084,379 $-30,437,379 $24,632,990 $127,468,272 $80,295,896 - 3 13 26.7 $230,118,551 $-75,471,551 $21,672,192 $176,060,844 $101,669,858 - 4 12 26.1 $185,890,885 $-31,243,885 $19,800,666 $134,846,334 $57,561,977 - 5 12 25.3 $244,764,988 $-90,117,988 $19,293,049 $190,321,540 $112,165,217 - 6 11 25.3 $196,075,648 $-41,428,648 $17,515,972 $135,394,109 $99,585,155 $464,050 7 14 25.4 $238,887,538 $-84,240,538 $14,491,522 $157,758,407 $87,447,416 - 8 15 24.7 $156,781,316 $-2,134,316 $13,904,899 $152,684,328 $92,149,100 - 9 12 24.9 $172,595,850 $-17,948,850 $12,363,215 $151,229,689 $82,333,760 - 10 10 24.5 $173,746,928 $-19,099,928 $8,782,650 $143,318,612 $83,096,620 -
Think Nets may be the only team that could actually absorb DV without sending salary back and think Spurs would have to clear $16M+ for Naz at $25M.
Det has Ivey, NOP with DJM, Chi with White, Hou with Green, Grizz with Bane and Wells. Was, UTA, Cha you've gotta take back $10+M to make it work. Was is paying Pool $32M next yr, Cha needs D at the 2 but maybe that could work. UTA may be the best fit but Sexton, George, Clarkson, Collier is a small gaurd rotation, DV would basically be they're SF and I think Ainge would make us pay.
I'd prolly rather roll the dice that DV looked bad after surgery, next yr he'll (finally) understand the tank is over, he's not a featured guy anymore, and its not okay to dribble for 18 secs. The effort on better on D, fingers crossed he gets his roll will be to mostly just spot-up on O.
Flip side, there's not a lot of FA money for Naz, Det is the only fit with money, sign/trade is very possible and that'll cost way less than what half the board wanted to give up for an older, more expansive, worse 2-way player in Lauri. But Naz would be a nice fit with the Pistons.
You realize we had to cough up the Bulls pick to get them to take him along with Jones right? They were also trying to dump lavine. It wasn't just a straight salary dump
The Bulls pick return was so that it looked like they got a positive return on Lavine.
This implies Lavine was a straight salary dump, which he clearly wasn’t and held value for Sacramento in the very same trade. Spurs took advantage of their leverage with Sacramento and Chicago’s irrational overvaluation of their own pick, which they could have easily kept (and still made the play in). In this trade the Collins and Jones contracts were neutral value ballast.
Definitely salvaging value for Sac.
For the Bulls I think it was much more about freeing up shots for White and minutes for Giddey and Buzelis, who put up 21/9.5/8.5 and 13/4.5/1.5 after the trade. Obviously they wanted off the $98M owed to 30 y/o salary too, but I think they saw Giddey as a special 21 y/o talent, were happy to trade Caruso for a distressed asset, and Giddey played like Luka after the trade on .500/.450/.800 splits with 14 double-doubles and 5 triple-doubles in 24 games. I think the pick back was more a bonus than the driver.
Not a huge sample size but not tiny either. Maybe Giddey finally turned the corner when he actually got to fully utilize his skillset and control the show, Bulls realized he'd never had that chance next to SGA and Levine.
Timing is great for Bulls, the Nets are the only team that can really make Giddey a big RFA offer, Bulls got their PG/SG/SF under control, the 4th most cap space this summer, '26 1st as at asset rather than to Spurs. Right now it looks like they have played this very, very well considering they were looking at dumping Levine with at least 1 1st a year ago, that's making lemonade.
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