Did you watch the play in? Miami completely disregarded Giddey, guarded him like Westbrook and he couldn’t make them pay, it got in his head and his confidence was shattered within 5 minutes. He’s fools gold and regardless of his stats I wouldn’t want him anywhere near the Spurs.
Of course Bulls will pay him because they’re the Bulls and will continue being a play in team forever.
Naz for Vassell straight up (plus whatever SRP they want). MIN is over a barrel with Naz and the first year of his next deal is probably in the range of Dev’s next year. Dev’s deal also declines which could appeal to MIN, who has to replace the offensive production somehow.
Minnesota is deathly close to the second apron, and will not want a contract like Devin’s. If Randle opts in, and he probably will, they’re screwed. HB, Malaki, Blake, cap room + draft assets. Those are all contracts that roll off in 2026.
Well Randell also rolls off in 2026.
To me it’s a question of how expensive will Naz be? Then, how do they plan to make up his production on offense? If he’s starting at 30M per then trading for Dev actually saves them some cash. An Ant/Dev backcourt is pretty compelling actually.
Spoken like a true salesman!!!
No. Dev can indeed work well as Ant's sidekick. When that trade happens and see Devin play well, I won't regret. Naz Reid is just a better player for spurs.
Many fans here think Devin has negative value. Yes for Spurs, but not necessarily for other teams.
That line is one of my favorites from the series. lol. I'll have to try and watch that episode and/or some of the series as I haven't watched it in years.
Very confusing response, didn't reply to a single point I made, but conjured up the idea I want Giddey on the Spurs. I don't, struggling to understand where that came from.
Is Giddey a star? No he's flawed and lacks confidence, but he has real skill and potential, and he is definitely a quality role player at 22 and now he has a set role that suits his skills, but he is lacking teammates that knock down shots.
I watched, you know the Heat are a top 10 D team, had the best 2 players on the court, that the Bulls don't have a star, that Giddey's forte is creating for others, that White went 5-20, Buz/Heurter went 2/8 from deep, right? Did you watch the game?
Giddey was 9-21, 2/7, and 5-6 from the line. The Bulls were outmatched, they didn't lose because Giddey.
Bulls had a .420 win% with Levine (during maybe his best season) before the trade and 0.563% after. Giddey was easily the biggest reason for that jump, he had a massive jump in assists once he got to run the O, that couldn't happen with Levine.
Giddey may well be playoff Fools Gold, but a 1 game sample isn't a good eval nor is a loaded OKC last yr with a 21y/o Giddey playing out-of-role. The Bulls are happy with reg season wins and playoff Fools Gold and tread mill hoping to land a star. Giddey is worth way more today than Caruso.
Giddey was top 15 in Ast% and top 25 in Reb% this yr, that's f-ing valuable, with .47/.38/.78 splits over 70 games. 5 trip-doubs in 24 games, 21st in the NBA in DD and 7th in TD this season. Its not like he is replacement level. You think the Bulls should absolutely let him walk, and that its stupid to pay starter money for a 22 y/o who puts up elite reg season stats and won at a 56% clip after trading their only "star"? He's not gonna get even close to max unless the Nets lose they're minds.
The list of guys that are both top 30 in Ast% and top 50 in Reb% are all Max guys. Giddey won't get close to the max, only the Nets and Bulls can even offer him more than $25M. He will almost certainly be underpaid.
But the point you somehow missed was that the trade wasn't to get back the pick this year, it opened up the '25, '26, and '27 firsts, allowed Giddey/Buz to grow, got them playing way better ball, and freed up some money this yr and tons of money next yr and in '27. And it turned a 21-29 team into a 18-14 team, and significantly increased the value of their asset pool.
Why do you imply I'm lying?
One man's trash may be another mans' treasure. With another team, Devin may very well average 20+ point with 38% 3-pointer accuracy.
He is bad for spurs because he needs too many touches, dribbles too much, takes too many tough jumpers. Another team may like and need him to do these things as a 3rd star.
To be honest, if not for Reid, Spurs FO may not want to trade him. He is hard-working and humble guy. Will be willing to adapt to reduced role.
They also desperately need PG depth + NAW is a UFA, hopefully they see something in Blake
This is gonna be a super fun offseason with so many teams against the apron and the Nets with $98M in cash, and no one else with even $25M free. Nets are gonna be evolved in a ton of dumps, great time to have a bundle of 2nds to get involved in multi-team trades, think we still have 15 2nds or so.
"Giddey won't get close to the max, only the Nets and Bulls can even offer him more than $25M. He will almost certainly be underpaid."
This is interesting. Could we make him an offer and then sign & trade? Giddey for Devin + Atlanta 25, 26 pick
MIN can't sign and trade him they are bound by the second apron.
Naz Reid is so good yesterday. cannot wait for him to join the spurs.
Even if Randle opts in the Wolves will be just a little under $35 million below the second apron so should be able to figure out a way to keep Naz if he wants to stay. Do you think Naz would command more than say 4 years, $135 million? Even 4 years, $150 million should be doable if that ends up his market. If Naz wants to be here he's going to have to convince the Wolves he's willing to sign in Brooklyn if they don't sign and trade him here.
They’re over 30 million below the second apron even with Randle’s option.
I'll make the bold prediction now that Naz will end up in a very unexpected destination, choosing money and opportunity over compe iveness. Future Brooklyn Net, Naz Reid.
I'm hoping this is a reverse jinx. If we don't get Naz, I fear we grab another white dude with a headband.
Odds are extremely slim he'll be a Spur either way, tbh. I have close to zero hope of us landing him, to the point where I'm not even thinking about it anymore.
Fair, enough. You're right, probably such a low chance, not worth wasting too much time thinking about it.
If Minnesota go on a run, what do you guys think they'll do if both Naz and Randle perform? Do you think they'll try and get both back?
Edit : Just saw they both have player options. Can the Wovles afford it if they both opt in?
I also saw that Naz Reid grew up in New Jersey. I think the Nets are a real possibility if they offer him a decent offer. I guess it just depends on if he wants to win or not.
Who would you guys say is this year's 6th man of the year?
Last edited by Ice009; 04-20-2025 at 03:35 PM.
Those are the worst.
Cheer for LAL to bounce MIN in first round and Reid to play more like he did the last game - 9 points.
Why would the Spurs want him if he comes up small? Are you saying he's going to be cheaper and/or Minnesota won't want to re-sign him if the Wolves flame out and he plays poorly?
I’ve never been a huge fan for Reid at $30m per. Sure it’s better than Vassell for $27m, Johnson for $18m or sochan for $15m+ but it’s an overpay. Sure if we can get him for $100m for 5 but that’s going to happen.
Naz will sign with BKN for slightly above market and then they'll look to flip him at the deadline. You heard it here first.
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