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    After unfavorable polls, Trump signals he's gonna fold here too.

    “Bringing him back and retrying him wouldn't bother me, but I leave that up to my lawyer,” Trump said. “You could bring him back and retry him.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...d/83273983007/

    Also, "retry"?
    Bring everyone back, no one deserves to be kidnapped and sent to concentration camps. Same for the students getting kidnapped and imprisoned for protesting the genocide Israel is committing. I wish I could say I was surprised how many people here are happy the first amendment has been revoked.

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    Stop being ing re ed. No due process and sent to a literal concentration camp. Even if it's not CECOT (and lol believing Trump when he is doing everything in secret) it's a ing concentration camp when it's outside of the American justice system. And he's sending other innocent people to CECOT, like the gay hairdresser photographed at CECOT. 75-90% of these people he kidnapped and shipped to concentration camps have no criminal record. You're just a ing brownshirt. It was funny when you were making idiotic posts about Comet Ping Pong but now you're cheering this nation becoming Nazi Germany and it's sickening.
    You got it all wrong!

    He's in a prison labor camp now!

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    You got it all wrong!

    He's in a prison labor camp now!
    The Germans shut their mouths in fear about the Jews and look where it got them: their kids fed into a meat grinder in war to feed Hitler's imperial ambitions. Can't believe that's the future Trump's base wants for all of us (themselves included).

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    Stop being ing re ed. No due process and sent to a literal concentration camp. Even if it's not CECOT (and lol believing Trump when he is doing everything in secret) it's a ing concentration camp when it's outside of the American justice system. And he's sending other innocent people to CECOT, like the gay hairdresser photographed at CECOT. 75-90% of these people he kidnapped and shipped to concentration camps have no criminal record. You're just a ing brownshirt. It was funny when you were making idiotic posts about Comet Ping Pong but now you're cheering this nation becoming Nazi Germany and it's sickening.
    He had his due process back in 2019 before an immigration judge and an immigration appeals court that denied him and he was designated by both to be an MS13 gang member and a threat to the community and ordered deported. He was held for 6 months while they tried to find a country to deport him to and when there wasn't a country that would take him in the statute required he be released from detention. He should have been deported years ago. Stop being ing re ed and stanning for designated MS13 gang members who were ordered to be deported years ago.

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    Or you can just fold like usual and we'll all laugh

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    Bring everyone back, no one deserves to be kidnapped and sent to concentration camps. Same for the students getting kidnapped and imprisoned for protesting the genocide Israel is committing. I wish I could say I was surprised how many people here are happy the first amendment has been revoked.
    Bring him back and he'll be deported again since the US government recognizes him as a member of MS13 and MS13 is now a designated terrorist organization. Withholding of removal are void for illegal aliens in a designated terrorist organization.

    Of all people to rally behind you choose this guy

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    Then actually do it.

    It's not the person -- it's the process that's important.

    You throw it away for one person, you throw it away for everyone including yourself.

    Of all the rights to want to throw away, you choose this one.

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    Then actually do it.

    It's not the person -- it's the process that's important.

    You throw it away for one person, you throw it away for everyone including yourself.

    Of all the rights to want to throw away, you choose this one.
    You're mad because he's President and you're not.

    Ya big baby, you.

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    I'm sure there's an obscure X source out there than can mind bend tsa into confirming he's doing a fantastic job
    Trump approval on immigration slips into negative territory: Survey
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsSerp

    34% Handling it about right
    48% Going too far (that's Dems)
    16% Not going far enough

    Majority disapprove, headline checks out

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    Bring him back and he'll be deported again since the US government recognizes him as a member of MS13 and MS13 is now a designated terrorist organization. Withholding of removal are void for illegal aliens in a designated terrorist organization.

    Of all people to rally behind you choose this guy
    Why do you hate the judicial system?

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    Trump approval on immigration slips into negative territory: Survey
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsSerp

    34% Handling it about right
    48% Going too far (that's Dems)
    16% Not going far enough

    Majority disapprove, headline checks out
    Tell tsa

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    Trump approval on immigration slips into negative territory: Survey
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsSerp

    34% Handling it about right
    48% Going too far (that's Dems)
    16% Not going far enough

    Majority disapprove, headline checks out
    Did you read the wrong poll question or are you just lying because this is who you are?

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    Though Trump doesn't care. He's free from another campaign. He can't lose again.

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    Bring him back and he'll be deported again since the US government recognizes him as a member of MS13 and MS13 is now a designated terrorist organization. Withholding of removal are void for illegal aliens in a designated terrorist organization.

    Of all people to rally behind you choose this guy
    Not just him dip , it's everyone Fuhrer sent to concentration camps, 75-90% of them with no criminal record whatsoever. Also off trying to equivocate deportation with due process vs kidnapping and shipping off to concentration/death camps.

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    He had his due process back in 2019 before an immigration judge and an immigration appeals court that denied him and he was designated by both to be an MS13 gang member and a threat to the community and ordered deported. He was held for 6 months while they tried to find a country to deport him to and when there wasn't a country that would take him in the statute required he be released from detention. He should have been deported years ago. Stop being ing re ed and stanning for designated MS13 gang members who were ordered to be deported years ago.
    Wow a proven crooked cop made some up about a CI from an area Garcia had never lived. God damn MS-13 Kilmar is scary with his rap sheet of traffic offenses. the higher courts that reversed the deportation order, the Supreme Court that ordered him not to be deported, just send him to a concentration camp. And wow I have a Texas Rangers jersey, better kidnap me and send me to a death camp in El Salvador because I'm an Eight Tray Gangster Crip if a crooked cop sees me in it.

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    Today it's a violent illegal gang member but tomorrow it could be you

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    not the biggest surprise that denaturalization is also on the table

    very radical stuff


    It's part of the project

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    Today it's a violent illegal gang member but tomorrow it could be you
    That's what Trump told us when he asked the dictator of El Salvador to build five more CECOTs for him to send American citizens to

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    Today it's a violent illegal gang member but tomorrow it could be you
    Why are your cons utional rights a joke to you?

    You guys used to go on and on about them.

    Please explain.

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    Wow a proven crooked cop made some up about a CI from an area Garcia had never lived. God damn MS-13 Kilmar is scary with his rap sheet of traffic offenses. the higher courts that reversed the deportation order, the Supreme Court that ordered him not to be deported, just send him to a concentration camp. And wow I have a Texas Rangers jersey, better kidnap me and send me to a death camp in El Salvador because I'm an Eight Tray Gangster Crip if a crooked cop sees me in it.
    Abrego Garcia, along with three others, were detained by Maryland local police on March 28, 2019. One detective immediately recognized one of the four as an MS-13 member — “Bimbo” — known to him from previous contacts. That individual had been encountered multiple times by the “Prince Georges County Gang Unit MS-13 Intelligence Squad.” The MS-13 problem is so bad they have an entire Gang Unit with its own Intelligence Squad dedicated to identifying and investigating MS-13 members. “Bimbo” has an extensive criminal record with multiple convictions.

    A second individual – not confirmed as an MS-13 member – had tattoos indicative of Hispanic gang membership. Eyes, ears, and mouths covered by skulls which are meant to emphasize “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” and communicate the need to stay silent. A past proven and reliable source of information identified this second person as an MS-13 member with the gang name of “Maniaco.” This individual also had a calf tattoo known to represent high level MS-13 members.

    Abrego Garcia was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat – images of a bull’s head with horns is indicative of an MS-13 member in good standing. The same source of information identified Abrego Garcia as an MS-13 member with the gang name “Chele”

    Of interest, however, is that the fourth individual was not known to the police or the source of information as an MS-13 member. If, as has been suggested, this source of information was not reliable and had fabricated the information about Abrego Garcia being a member of MS-13, why did he not fabricate information about the 4th individual who, according to the report, was released at the scene.

    All of those details come from the Maryland local police who encountered the four men.

    Abergo Garcia freely admitted to being a Salvadoran citizen in the United States illegally, and he was turned over to the custody by ICE -- there is an ICE Form I-213 dated March 28, 2019, completed the same evening by two ICE agents. On March 29 he was given a Notice to Appear at a Removal Hearing, and was detained in custody by DHS pending that hearing. The I-213 states it was the Prince Georges County Police Gang Unit who first encountered the four when they were “detained in connection with a murder investigation.” This wasn’t a random police contact – it was the Gang Unit contacting known gang members. It doesn’t say they were suspects in a murder, only that they were detained in connection with an investigation. The I-213 says in multiple locations that Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 member – based on the information given to ICE by the local police Gang Unit dedicated to MS-13.

    Abrego Garcia was denied bond after a hearing on April 24, 2019. In the written Memorandum dated May 22, 2019, do enting the denial of the motion, the Immigration Judge stated:

    “[T]he determination that the Respondent is a gang member appears to be trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely, information contained in the Gang Field Interview Sheet…. [T]he fact that a “past, proven, and reliable source of information” verified [Abrego Garcia’s] gang membership, rank, and gang name is sufficient to support that the Respondent is a gang member….”

    The “determination” was made by the Maryland police and adopted by ICE. These are not casual decisions made by the flip of a coin. Accurately identifying gang affiliations is a paramount concern when it comes to arrest/detention/ incarceration. Having members of rival and hostile gangs housed together is an invitation to widespread violence. So accurately determining gang affiliation is the reason why police have gang unit “Intelligence Squads.” To dismiss this determination — as Judge Xinis does in almost comical fashion in her April 6 Opinion for this poor “Maryland Man” — only exposes ignorance as to how and why these determinations are made.

    The Board of Immigration Appeals, in a written decision December 19, 2019, adopted and affirmed the Immigration Judge’s decision denying bond to Abrego Garcia on the basis of his status as an MS-13 member.

    “[Abrego-Garcia] argues that the Immigration Judge clearly erred in determining that is a verified member of MS-13 because there is no reliable evidence in the record to support such a finding…. We adopt and affirm the Immigration Judge’s danger ruling…. [T]he immigration judge appropriately considered allegations of gang affiliation against the respondent in determining that he has not demonstrated that he is not a danger to property or persons.”

    “Gang affiliation” is not a “crime.” So the claim that Abrego Garcia has never been charged with a crime where his gang affiliation was “proven” in court is meaningless. I suspect the Immigration Judge who made the initial FACTUAL FINDING, and the Board of Appeals panel who affirmed that “FACTUAL FINDING” have reviewed far more MS-13 determinations made in this fashion than has Judge Xinis from the district court bench.

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    Abrego Garcia, along with three others, were detained by Maryland local police on March 28, 2019. One detective immediately recognized one of the four as an MS-13 member — “Bimbo” — known to him from previous contacts. That individual had been encountered multiple times by the “Prince Georges County Gang Unit MS-13 Intelligence Squad.” The MS-13 problem is so bad they have an entire Gang Unit with its own Intelligence Squad dedicated to identifying and investigating MS-13 members. “Bimbo” has an extensive criminal record with multiple convictions.

    A second individual – not confirmed as an MS-13 member – had tattoos indicative of Hispanic gang membership. Eyes, ears, and mouths covered by skulls which are meant to emphasize “see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil” and communicate the need to stay silent. A past proven and reliable source of information identified this second person as an MS-13 member with the gang name of “Maniaco.” This individual also had a calf tattoo known to represent high level MS-13 members.

    Abrego Garcia was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat – images of a bull’s head with horns is indicative of an MS-13 member in good standing. The same source of information identified Abrego Garcia as an MS-13 member with the gang name “Chele”

    Of interest, however, is that the fourth individual was not known to the police or the source of information as an MS-13 member. If, as has been suggested, this source of information was not reliable and had fabricated the information about Abrego Garcia being a member of MS-13, why did he not fabricate information about the 4th individual who, according to the report, was released at the scene.

    All of those details come from the Maryland local police who encountered the four men.

    Abergo Garcia freely admitted to being a Salvadoran citizen in the United States illegally, and he was turned over to the custody by ICE -- there is an ICE Form I-213 dated March 28, 2019, completed the same evening by two ICE agents. On March 29 he was given a Notice to Appear at a Removal Hearing, and was detained in custody by DHS pending that hearing. The I-213 states it was the Prince Georges County Police Gang Unit who first encountered the four when they were “detained in connection with a murder investigation.” This wasn’t a random police contact – it was the Gang Unit contacting known gang members. It doesn’t say they were suspects in a murder, only that they were detained in connection with an investigation. The I-213 says in multiple locations that Abrego Garcia is an MS-13 member – based on the information given to ICE by the local police Gang Unit dedicated to MS-13.

    Abrego Garcia was denied bond after a hearing on April 24, 2019. In the written Memorandum dated May 22, 2019, do enting the denial of the motion, the Immigration Judge stated:

    “[T]he determination that the Respondent is a gang member appears to be trustworthy and is supported by other evidence in the record, namely, information contained in the Gang Field Interview Sheet…. [T]he fact that a “past, proven, and reliable source of information” verified [Abrego Garcia’s] gang membership, rank, and gang name is sufficient to support that the Respondent is a gang member….”

    The “determination” was made by the Maryland police and adopted by ICE. These are not casual decisions made by the flip of a coin. Accurately identifying gang affiliations is a paramount concern when it comes to arrest/detention/ incarceration. Having members of rival and hostile gangs housed together is an invitation to widespread violence. So accurately determining gang affiliation is the reason why police have gang unit “Intelligence Squads.” To dismiss this determination — as Judge Xinis does in almost comical fashion in her April 6 Opinion for this poor “Maryland Man” — only exposes ignorance as to how and why these determinations are made.

    The Board of Immigration Appeals, in a written decision December 19, 2019, adopted and affirmed the Immigration Judge’s decision denying bond to Abrego Garcia on the basis of his status as an MS-13 member.

    “[Abrego-Garcia] argues that the Immigration Judge clearly erred in determining that is a verified member of MS-13 because there is no reliable evidence in the record to support such a finding…. We adopt and affirm the Immigration Judge’s danger ruling…. [T]he immigration judge appropriately considered allegations of gang affiliation against the respondent in determining that he has not demonstrated that he is not a danger to property or persons.”

    “Gang affiliation” is not a “crime.” So the claim that Abrego Garcia has never been charged with a crime where his gang affiliation was “proven” in court is meaningless. I suspect the Immigration Judge who made the initial FACTUAL FINDING, and the Board of Appeals panel who affirmed that “FACTUAL FINDING” have reviewed far more MS-13 determinations made in this fashion than has Judge Xinis from the district court bench.

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    75-90% of the people Fuhrer sent to concentration camps had no convictions and we're supposed to believe these are all dangerous gang members. No due process, just kidnap people and send them to concentration camps and you cheer it. I mean off you piece of nazi.
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    75-90% of the people Fuhrer sent to concentration camps had no convictions and we're supposed to believe these are all dangerous gang members. No due process, just kidnap people and send them to concentration camps and you cheer it. I mean off you piece of nazi.
    I have only been talking about Maryland Man

    You know that, and you now have no rebuttal and are now forced to build a strawman.

    I’m a nazi like Abrego is just a Maryland man.

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    "Bulls cap."

    That's all it takes.

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    I have only been talking about Maryland Man

    You know that, and you now have no rebuttal and are now forced to build a strawman.

    I’m a nazi like Abrego is just a Maryland man.
    No convictions.

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    I have only been talking about Maryland Man

    You know that, and you now have no rebuttal and are now forced to build a strawman.

    I’m a nazi like Abrego is just a Maryland man.
    Yeah I'm not gonna take ShipwreckedCrew as a trustworthy source after the re ed you have posted on this forum for years, Pizza Boy. Even if he was an MS-13 gang member I still don't think he should be kidnapped and shipped without due process to a concentration camp, which you want to pretend is just normal legal deportation. Kind of funny that he's some violent gang member whose worst crimes are traffic violations.
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