2025 NBA Draft

[scott]

I guess I'd ask is there any overwhelming talent who would be a clear BPA after the top 4? Someone good enough to ignore fit? I don't think Maluach, Kon, Tre Johnson, or anyone else after Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, and Bailey are the level of talent where you say this guy is too good to pass up even if he isn't really what we need. Edgecombe or Harper I get and Bailey is a great fit on paper at least, but you're probably drafting two role players. Or is there anyone you like that you see as a potential allstar who would be available #8 or later?

I think it’s the right question that the front office should be asking themselves. I don’t have strong enough opinions on this class to be able to have an answer, tbh. I’m going to operate under the assumption that whomever the Spurs take fits along with my approach, until the other members of this website tell me that we made a colossal Josh Primo-sized up

[baseline bum]

I think it’s the right question that the front office should be asking themselves. I don’t have strong enough opinions on this class to be able to have an answer, tbh. I’m going to operate under the assumption that whomever the Spurs take fits along with my approach, until the other members of this website tell me that we made a colossal Josh Primo-sized up

To be fair I remember in 1999 Mavs fans online acting like they made a Josh Primo-sized up trading Tractor Traylor for some ing Dirk Diggler loser from overseas. Even remember a pissed off caller on Jim Rome's show the next day ing about that trade.

[scott]

Scott took it up a notch and included Wemby.

Well, I think part of my including Wemby in the discussion is my belief that he is so unique and so special that there are lots of different ways to build around him. While pairing him with another C (say, Queen) sounds counter-intuitive (even to me), I believe in Wemby enough to think it could still work.

I’m starting to feel that we shouldn’t just apply the league-wide meta to our team and assume that is how we should build the team, because no other team running the league wide meta has a Wemby. He changes the equation that much, IMO.

[scott]

How could you do that to your boy Sea Bass?

I’m going to bid for an expansion team in Hawaii, and Sea Bass will be our team’s centerpiece. It’s a shame we don’t have actual Sea Bass here…

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IMO, Tre Johnson is gonna be really good. I think he makes it a group of 4 along with Harper, Bailey, Edgecombe that could go in any order once Flagg is selected. I do expect Harper goes 2nd.

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To be fair I remember in 1999 Mavs fans online acting like they made a Josh Primo-sized up trading Tractor Traylor for some ing Dirk Diggler loser from overseas. Even remember a pissed off caller on Jim Rome's show the next day ing about that trade.

That didn't apply to all Mavs fans. Mavs fans mostly wanted Pierce at6 and he fell to the pick just before Dirk I think. I saw Dirk dominate in the world vs US so I wasn't against that pick at all.

[Mr. Body]

IMO, Tre Johnson is gonna be really good. I think he makes it a group of 4 along with Harper, Bailey, Edgecombe that could go in any order once Flagg is selected. I do expect Harper goes 2nd.

I'd trade up for Johnson. I'm not sure between him and Edgecombe, would before Bailey. Tre playing off what we have on offense could be really good.

[baseline bum]

That didn't apply to all Mavs fans. Mavs fans mostly wanted Pierce at6 and he fell to the pick just before Dirk I think. I saw Dirk dominate in the world vs US so I wasn't against that pick at all.

Nah Pierce fell to ing 10! I couldn't believe it watching that draft. I thought Vancouver was gonna take him second. Figured the Clippers would be the Clippers and select Kandiass #1 though.

[BacktoBasics]

Well, I think part of my including Wemby in the discussion is my belief that he is so unique and so special that there are lots of different ways to build around him. While pairing him with another C (say, Queen) sounds counter-intuitive (even to me), I believe in Wemby enough to think it could still work.

I’m starting to feel that we shouldn’t just apply the league-wide meta to our team and assume that is how we should build the team, because no other team running the league wide meta has a Wemby. He changes the equation that much, IMO.

Certainly speaks to demanding teams adjust to us rather than build our roster to answer to other teams. I think your suggestion is the smart approach.

[Vienna]

I think Jakucionis will rise in the draft process. or, in other words, he never fell on the teams boards, like he fell on Most draft boards. some teams will see a much better shooter than the numbers tell. In fact, his shooting splits are strange. he shot very good on step back 3s (40%, almost half of his atempts) but pretty bad on C&S (below 30%). 3/4 of his 3PA came off the dribble. and is very good from the line. His mid season wrist injury clearly hurt his shooting. put those factors together and you get a shooter who projects better than his overall number from this season.

evrything else teams will like. good size (for a PG), measured 6‘4.5“ w/o shoes on the basketball without borders camp last year. decent athlete (38“ vertical). very good rebounder for a guard. Great passer and playmaker.
and he will win the interviews. Very mature and bright young man, very positive and confident personality. they will love him. They will see someone, who can lead a team soon. don‘t be surprised, if he is picked at #5. if Spurs pick him, I wouldn‘t mind either.

[Dejounte]

I’m counting on one of these guys to be our 2nd round pick:

Noah Penda - quite possibly the best defender in the draft
Miles Byrd - another solid defender
Maxim Reynaud - Wemby’s best pal

also isnt it crazy that a 2nd round pick is a finalist in this year’s rookie of the year race

[scott]

I’m counting on one of these guys to be our 2nd round pick:

Noah Penda - quite possibly the best defender in the draft
Miles Byrd - another solid defender
Maxim Reynaud - Wemby’s best pal

also isnt it crazy that a 2nd round pick is a finalist in this year’s rookie of the year race

If Cash Considerations are on the board, I don’t see how we pass it up with our SRP, tbh

[baseline bum]

If Cash Considerations are on the board, I don’t see how we pass it up with our SRP, tbh

Shortys running wild smoking sess and drinking beer and ain't trying to hear what I'm kicking in his ear

[Dejounte]

If I told you Queen would become one of the best shooting bigs of this class, how high would you take him?

I guess a better way to ask this question is… if a big in this class had the best offense (whole package: ISO, shooting, post offense, everything) but the worst defense… how much is he worth?

IMO, I don’t think any big’s defense could be worse than Sengun’s and his team is able to make it work. Today’s offense is just that much more important than defense, tbh.

[scott]

Shortys running wild smoking sess and drinking beer and ain't trying to hear what I'm kicking in his ear

Need someone with Photoshop skills to superimpose Holt Jr on Inspectah Deck

[scott]

If I told you Queen would become one of the best shooting bigs of this class, how high would you take him?

I guess a better way to ask this question is… if a big in this class had the best offense (whole package: ISO, shooting, post offense, everything) but the worst defense… how much is he worth?

IMO, I don’t think any big’s defense could be worse than Sengun’s and his team is able to make it work. Today’s offense is just that much more important than defense, tbh.

I think a fair question to ask is how bad could his defense possibly be playing next to Wemby?

And… could it possibly be worse than what we already have?

Does Queen look like he can become a capable defender? Does he have the tools and just lacks the discipline and work ethic? Or is he just so slow footed that it’s never going to happen? I’m not going to actually watch any of his tape… I’ve decided I want to go into this draft forming my opinions solely based on what I read on ST and hear from Veceine

[baseline bum]

Need someone with Photoshop skills to superimpose Holt Jr on Inspectah Deck

To kick the truth to the young nepo-baby youth

[Dejounte]

I think a fair question to ask is how bad could his defense possibly be playing next to Wemby?

And… could it possibly be worse than what we already have?

Does Queen look like he can become a capable defender? Does he have the tools and just lacks the discipline and work ethic? Or is he just so slow footed that it’s never going to happen? I’m not going to actually watch any of his tape… I’ve decided I want to go into this draft forming my opinions solely based on what I read on ST and hear from Veceine

My guess is discipline and mindset. He may believe his offense is so good that he’d just outscore his opponent and/ or he feels that he spends so much energy on offense that he tries to preserve his energy on defense (a common thing among NBA players, even stars say they do this).

[Dejounte]

It’s important to make sure you don’t listen to people who were high on Cody Williams last year scott

i’m pointing out Cody, but there have been bad takes like that year after year. I’ve had my share, but way fewer than most tbh

[baseline bum]

It’s important to make sure you don’t listen to people who were high on Cody Williams last year scott

Wish I could say I was high when I was thinking about Cody at 8 tbh

[scott]

Cody may well turn out fine, I wouldn’t worry about it too much at this phase. I think sometimes we’re too impatient with these kids.

But… I did want Buzelis at 8, and still think that would have been a good pick.

[Mr. Body]

If I told you Queen would become one of the best shooting bigs of this class, how high would you take him?

I guess a better way to ask this question is… if a big in this class had the best offense (whole package: ISO, shooting, post offense, everything) but the worst defense… how much is he worth?

IMO, I don’t think any big’s defense could be worse than Sengun’s and his team is able to make it work. Today’s offense is just that much more important than defense, tbh.

If Queen is like a Sam Perkins you definitely take him mid lottery in this era.

[Mr. Body]

I think Jakucionis will rise in the draft process. or, in other words, he never fell on the teams boards, like he fell on Most draft boards. some teams will see a much better shooter than the numbers tell. In fact, his shooting splits are strange. he shot very good on step back 3s (40%, almost half of his atempts) but pretty bad on C&S (below 30%). 3/4 of his 3PA came off the dribble. and is very good from the line. His mid season wrist injury clearly hurt his shooting. put those factors together and you get a shooter who projects better than his overall number from this season.

evrything else teams will like. good size (for a PG), measured 6‘4.5“ w/o shoes on the basketball without borders camp last year. decent athlete (38“ vertical). very good rebounder for a guard. Great passer and playmaker.
and he will win the interviews. Very mature and bright young man, very positive and confident personality. they will love him. They will see someone, who can lead a team soon. don‘t be surprised, if he is picked at #5. if Spurs pick him, I wouldn‘t mind either.

Agree, Jakucionis and Demin I think are very much in play.

[mo7888]

If I told you Queen would become one of the best shooting bigs of this class, how high would you take him?

I guess a better way to ask this question is… if a big in this class had the best offense (whole package: ISO, shooting, post offense, everything) but the worst defense… how much is he worth?

IMO, I don’t think any big’s defense could be worse than Sengun’s and his team is able to make it work. Today’s offense is just that much more important than defense, tbh.

It's a great question. If by shooting you're including a high percentage from behind the arc then I'd say top 4. He would instantly make Sochan playable at the 3.

[Robz4000]

If I told you Queen would become one of the best shooting bigs of this class, how high would you take him?

I guess a better way to ask this question is… if a big in this class had the best offense (whole package: ISO, shooting, post offense, everything) but the worst defense… how much is he worth?

IMO, I don’t think any big’s defense could be worse than Sengun’s and his team is able to make it work. Today’s offense is just that much more important than defense, tbh.

If you told me Queen becomes a 38% 3-point shooter I'd take him over everyone not named Flagg and Harper tbh. I already assume he'll become an average defender.