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    The Bucks are the worst coached team I have ever seen that didn't have Pop at the helm. Jesus.
    LOL Coc. He's like a CEO that tanks his company, gets a golden parachute out, and is then gets another job immediately for millions thanks to connections so he can tank that company too.

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    LOL Coc. He's like a CEO that tanks his company, gets a golden parachute out, and is then gets another job immediately for millions thanks to connections so he can tank that company too.
    Really true. The pro sports have been recycling terrible coaches for decades. Doc has always seemed to have a lot of talent and makes them underachieve. He's the un-PhilJackson.

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    As a Spurs fan feels like i should be rooting for the Bucks to get swept to increase the chances Giannis demands out.

    Not saying the Spurs should go hard after him but feel like having that option can only be a good thing.

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    I guess Milwaukee simply doesn’t run an offense? Almost looks like they’re playing a pick up game out there

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    As a Spurs fan feels like i should be rooting for the Bucks to get swept to increase the chances Giannis demands out.

    Not saying the Spurs should go hard after him but feel like having that option can only be a good thing.
    Guessing a Giannis trade would look like

    * Castle
    * Vassell
    * Sochan
    * 2025 Spurs first
    * 2026 Spurs first (with unprotected Atlanta swap)
    * 2030 Spurs first (with unprotected Dallas swap plus top 1 protected Minnesota swap)

    -for-

    *Giannis

    Or maybe you switch the 2026 first to the 2027 ATL first. It's a lot to give up and I'm not sure I'd bring in anyone to be option #1 over Wemby but this is probably what it would cost.

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    As a Spurs fan feels like i should be rooting for the Bucks to get swept to increase the chances Giannis demands out.

    Not saying the Spurs should go hard after him but feel like having that option can only be a good thing.
    How do the Spurs pay that many max contracts?

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    Glad to see the Bucks start hitting shots, but their defense is so predictable. They bite on literally every jab and every pump fake, and then have to chase down the dribbler.

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    How do the Spurs pay that many max contracts?
    We have zero max contracts right now…

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    We have zero max contracts right now…
    This is the basketball equivalent of "But I ate breakfast this morning."

    Well done.

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    This is the basketball equivalent of "But I ate breakfast this morning."

    Well done.
    I mean you asked how we pay that many max contracts. Whelp we don’t have any max contracts. Plus we can go over the cap with Wembys contract so that’s not an issue. I suppose Fox would have to take slightly less if we did get Giannis but it wouldn’t be much less. And even w/o Giannis it isn’t guaranteed we are going to max Fox. Plus I’m pretty sure Vic’s max wouldn’t kick in until Giannis last year on the deal and we could trade Fox really at any time if we are in that much of a need for it.

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    I guess Milwaukee simply doesn’t run an offense? Almost looks like they’re playing a pick up game out there
    Yeah they just started hitting the same shots they had been missing before. It's hard to game plan for hot shooting.

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    I’ve been very impressed by Randle these playoffs. He has a bad reputation but he’s playing his heart out and is their offensive hub, while Edwards is hiding.

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    Refs doing everything they can to keep the Lakers in this game. Good to know that some things never change

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    It is looking increasingly the case that both the Nuggets & Bucks may have wasted the prime of two All-timers in Giannis and Jokic. Giannis hasn’t won a playoff series since 2022. Imagine such drought spanning the typical peak age of an NBA star (27-31). Meanwhile Jokic keeps racking up MVPs as the undisputed best player in the world for the past 4 years only for it to result in a 1 le/Conference Finals in the same run beating a bunch of sub 50-win teams. The Nuggets never even had a truly dominant regular season with Jokic like every All Time Great.


    As much as it still bugs me to this day that the Spurs never repeated, we at least still won three championships at the height of the Duncan Era (2003-2007), and that only a couple of bounces and bad breaks (0.4 and Manu foul on Dirk) prevented a potential threepeat during the meat of Timmy’s prime
    Who cares about the Nuggets and Bucks. The Spurs wasted David Robinson's prime, so I don't really care that much about those two guys unless they were on the Spurs. Spurs fans have seen David Robinson (I was still very young so I don't remember it that well. Plus, since I'm not in the US, NBA coverage was hard to come by) get screwed over worse until winning the amazing Tim Duncan draft lottery.

    I do feel a little bad about Jokic, though, as you are right, the Nuggets haven't even had more than one great regular season (did you say they've only made it to the conference finals once, outside of the championship year [making it twice if you include their championship year]), which to me tells me he's had some pretty bad teams around him. Amazing that D-Rob was able to drag some of the rosters he had to more wins than Jokic has been able to get the Nuggets with his all-time stats and play.

    I agree with you about the repeat thing as I wanted to repeat badly, but the Spurs were basically two plays away from 5 in a row between 2003-2007 (Lakers game 5 in 2004 and Dirk foul in 2006). Not many other teams have come that close with a real chance at 5 in a row (I know it wasn't certain we would have won those two years, but I do think it was a greater than 50% chance if it wasn't for those two plays), so that's what I keep thinking back to and feel somewhat OK about it. The Spurs were that good that they had a real chance at 5 in a row. Yeah, the 2004 series against Detroit might have been really tough if the 0.4 shot didn't count and the Spurs win that Lakers series, but I think a three peat at the very least was likely if that Dirk foul didn't happen as TD was by far the best player in the playoffs in 2006 (he was playing phenomenal after battling plantar fasciitis throughout the season, completely dominating).

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    Well done Ant for coming up big in crunch time. Go Wolves.

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    Timberwolves look like geniuses trading KAT for Randle. KAT is way better in the regular season, but with how he stinks it up in the playoffs everytime, his numbers are basically the same as Randle's and they save 20 million

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    Timberwolves look like geniuses trading KAT for Randle. KAT is way better in the regular season, but with how he stinks it up in the playoffs everytime, his numbers are basically the same as Randle's and they save 20 million
    Think Randle is taking this series personally tbh; doubt he plays this well next round if the T'Pups get there. That being said, getting off KAT's contract was the right move to try to keep the rest of the team together.

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...n-dirty-player

    ESPN going Baghdad bob for fhe warriors here. The article isn’t about talking about how greens clearly shoved amen in the back causing him to crash into jimmy. It’s flipping the script and saying amen is dirty by undercutting jimmy.

    Then it calls out brooks for being dirty for his past play while making zero mention of greens very long history of injuring, choke holding and stomping on other players.

    To add the cherry on top, it talked about greens flagrant, which didn’t even connect and was a green flop, as evidence of Houston being dirty.

    This is the type of biased reporting that is making the nba a joke league.

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    There is an interesting, unproveable dynamic at play though... does SGA make his teammates better, to the point where they have positive BPMs, but Jokic does not? Or Does SGA just have better teammates who make him look better?

    I tend to think that both these guys are great and Jokic has a crappy team around him while SGA has a well constructed team around him... just throwing discussion points out because it's interesting to think about here in the dull days with no Spurs basketball.

    Yeah, I think it's always important to look for as much context as possible when trying to evaluate impact stats, but in this case I'd look at someone like Aaron Gordon, who for the first 8 seasons of his career never had a BPM above +1.0, but in the last 3 seasons playing with Jokic has been above 1.0 three times, and above +2 twice. I think in Jokic's case, he's elevating a handful of players to net neutral status who would likely be net negatives on most other teams.

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    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...n-dirty-player

    ESPN going Baghdad bob for fhe warriors here. The article isn’t about talking about how greens clearly shoved amen in the back causing him to crash into jimmy. It’s flipping the script and saying amen is dirty by undercutting jimmy.

    Then it calls out brooks for being dirty for his past play while making zero mention of greens very long history of injuring, choke holding and stomping on other players.

    To add the cherry on top, it talked about greens flagrant, which didn’t even connect and was a green flop, as evidence of Houston being dirty.

    This is the type of biased reporting that is making the nba a joke league.
    Some Youtubers do a much better job at covering the NBA because they use context.
    Espn is a joke

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    I’ve been very impressed by Randle these playoffs. He has a bad reputation but he’s playing his heart out and is their offensive hub, while Edwards is hiding.
    Definitely agree. He’s been great, even playing pretty good defense.

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    Yeah, I think it's always important to look for as much context as possible when trying to evaluate impact stats, but in this case I'd look at someone like Aaron Gordon, who for the first 8 seasons of his career never had a BPM above +1.0, but in the last 3 seasons playing with Jokic has been above 1.0 three times, and above +2 twice. I think in Jokic's case, he's elevating a handful of players to net neutral status who would likely be net negatives on most other teams.
    https://www.basketball-reference.com.../DEN/2022.html

    Won 48 games with that roster.
    Murray missed the season, MPJ played 9 games.
    Gordon as his only legit teammate

    Barton, Morris, Jeff Green, Hyland, Cousins, Rivers, Dozier, Campazzo, Forbes was the rest of his supporting cast.
    What do they have in common? All were out of the league by the start of 2023-24 season, not even two years later.

    Jokic obviously has issues on defense, but I'll dare to say I've never seen anyone elevate every single one of his teamamtes so much. (I'm too young to remember Magic.)
    MJ was an executioner, Lebron elevated just role players, his star teammates had to take a step back. Luka and Harden were also all about elevating role players.
    Elite floor generals like Stockton, Nash or CP3 created enough for everyone, but they didn't hav enough firepower to carry games by themselves on regular basis.
    Jokic does everything.


    Meanwhile, Cavs are taking care of business in Miami.

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    Idk what are the Nuggets thinking there, Gordon going at Harden for no reason.

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    Good things happen when Westbrick isn’t playing lol

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