And you're building in an assumption that the FO finds either of Isaac or Bitadze's assorted sins as objectionable as Jax's behaviour...
A trade for Giannis would be crazy expensive. I'd be thinking something like Castle, Vassell, Sochan, 2025 Spurs pick (assuming it's the #8), 2026 Spurs pick with unprotected ATL swap, and 2030 Spurs pick with unprotected Dallas swap and top 1 protected Minnesota swap.
Jack never attacked a coach, so I’d say my assumption is probably valid. JI’s contract runs as long asVassell’s, so that’s half the money in his contract that you’re not getting off of.
That would be crazy expensive. If we don't get involved directly I do wonder if we can acquire an asset from one of the other teams that will pursue him.
Not a Spurs trade target, but the other day I forgot to mention Grizzlies are in a bad spot all of a sudden.
Ja can't stay healthy or keep his mouth shut, they should trade him before his value tanks, tbh.
But the actual issue is JJJ's extension.
He just hada 16/5/1.5 on 38/27/85 series against OKC.
To me he seems to be good only against bad teams, kind of how he usually dominates the Spurs.
But in every matchup against physical teams with size, he just gets builled. He's got no post game, his handles are not good enough for consistent face up attacks and he's a streaky shooter.
His rebounding is just awful.
Don't get me wrong, he's still a good player, but we're talking about a max extension here. There's no way I'd give him one. He's worth 20% of the cap at the most. 30 to 35 million a year, not a cent more.
If Grizzlies give him a 200+ million extension, it's going to be a similar situation to Murray in Denver, but unlike the Nuggets, Grizzlies don't have their Jokic.
MEM would actually be in a pretty good position to blow it up. They could likely get very nice returns for Ja, JJJ and Bane. They could also probably get decent returns for their young, cost controlled role players because they are all on such bargain contracts that competing teams would die to get them in to help with apron considerations.
MEM should totally blow it up, join the 2026 Tankathon, and then probably just move to Nashville.
Blowing it up when your top3 players are 25/26 isn't a good thing, tbh.
Last week I saw that there were playoff tickets available for less than $10, ridiculous stuff.MEM should totally blow it up, join the 2026 Tankathon, and then probably just move to Nashville.
Iirc, someone on this forum always mentions Memphis as the worst NBA city.
When you look at Bridges going for 5 picks and a swap I honestly think that's probably what Giannis' market value would be though: a high end prospect (Castle), a low end prospect (Sochan), three really good picks, and salary filler (Vassell). Personally I'd pass since (1) it would be for Giannis starting in his Age 31 season (2) since Wemby isn't a good enough player yet to be competing for les and (3) because I think it would be a mistake to develop Victor as a second option instead of a first with the ceiling he has. But Giannis would pretty clearly be the first option as a top 3 MVP candidate in his prime.
Wemby was a top5 player over those couple of months before his health issues started. That's with a horrible roster around him and a coach who isn't even an actual head coach.
If he can be back at that level, he's definitely ready.
20 game stretch: 29.6/10.6/4.4 on 51/40/86 with 4 blocks and 0.8 steals.
That's cherry picking a couple of months though. Health professionals here say the DVT can't be blamed for his sneezy month so maybe he was exhausted carrying that load those two months. But carrying that kind of load all season is what it means to be a top 5 player.
Neither is their current situation, tbhBlowing it up when your top3 players are 25/26 isn't a good thing, tbh.
Last week I saw that there were playoff tickets available for less than $10, ridiculous stuff.
Iirc, someone on this forum always mentions Memphis as the worst NBA city.
Fair point, but with a functional team (both him and Fox healthy, with a couple more solid role players), I think we can easily get 50 wins...if we get an actual coach to take over.
Not even Giannis or Jokic were required to carry as much as Wemby. Obviously they're a tier above him right now, but Wemby was asked to be the best player on both ends, every single possession if Spurs were to win any games.
As for his healthy, I'll just assume he's going to be healthy, because if he's not, there's nothing to talk about, we might aswell disband the franchise.
Obviously, but they're an irrelevant franchise, what are the odds of getting another solid playoff core? Some owners are content with just being compe ive enough to make the playoffs.
Trae for Ja would be an interesting trade, tbh.
Well, they apparently can’t even get people interested in playoff games. So I wonder how content they really are in Memphis.
Also… I wonder if our owners are going to end up content with just being compe ive enough to make the playoffs. I hope not.
Fischer now claims "word around the league that the Spurs could be a potential landing spot for Durant".
Since the Suns and Booker remain committed to one another (for now), I don't think they'll be pursuing a future based package. Sure, it'll be a factor, but probably secondary.
Something like Randle, DiVinzenzo, Dillingham and Miller or Minott could be appealing to the Suns and leave the Timberwolves with enough remaining depth (they could probably sign Minnesota native Tyus Jones on the cheap to be stopgap PG) to contend.
Last edited by TD 21; 04-28-2025 at 06:46 PM.
Just saying I expect Wemby might still be a little young to be the guy carrying the team on his shoulders and it might take another year or two before he can really be that horse you can play 38-40 minutes a night in the playoffs, which is what he's going to need to be doing to have a real shot at competing. DeAron Fox isn't going to be the guy to lead this team to a le and neither is Castle. That will be Victor's load.
They were willing to go out and pay what will almost certainly be a 30% max contract for a second star in De'Aaron, which is way more than I can say for Red McCombs who refused to pay for a team around David Robinson in the early 90s. They're never going to spend like the Steph/Klay/KD Warriors but Victor might be enough to raise 2-3 banners anyways. No way I see the Spurs matching the 5 they got with Timmy when they have that ridiculous Thunder team to have to try to go through every year though.
One Spurs demolish that Thunders once, we will demolish them again and again. They are good. But we have an alien.
Jack was brawling with fans in the stands as part of the Malice at the Palace... ("Jackson was suspended for 30 games without pay, thereby losing $1.7 million in salary. He was also put on probation for a year, fined $250, and ordered to undergo anger management classes and perform 60 hours of community service. After he failed to complete the terms of the sentence he received, his probation was extended one year.")
Jack fired multiple shots from a handgun in a strip club parking lot... ("Jackson was charged October 11, 2006, with a felony count of criminal recklessness, and misdemeanor counts of battery and disorderly conduct. He pled guilty to a felony count of criminal recklessness, received one year of probation, and was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine and perform 100 hours of community service.")
Also, you need to check your sources. Bitadze did not attack a coach; mouthed off yes, but it was coach Foster that had to be held back (by the other players) from attacking Bitadze:
https://ftw.usatoday.com/story/sport...t/81480081007/
Bitadze got fined for that, but Coach Foster got suspended...
Ben Simmons anyone??
Greek freak, fox, Wemby would be nasty. But boy you would need shooting around that. Sochan, Castle probably couldn't stick around. It's possible you'll keep one.
Johnson, Barnes and Sochan actually works financially. Then you'll obviously need some shooters for cheap out on the bench. Obviously picks would be depleted to make the trade relevant. Then that team becomes stupid expensive.
Not a fan of three max contracts anymore. Just so much can horribly wrong. Like Bucks Middleton just became irrelevant. Now Lillard. Suns have the same issue with Beal. The second apron just restricts so much.
Thunder aren't the soft ass no defense Sons man, that's a team built to win les. A first rate #1 guy in SGA, high end #2 and #3 options in JDub and Holmgren, and three guys who can play DPOY level defense in Dort, Holmgren, and Caruso. Cason Wallace ain't bad either. They're going to be a problem for a LOOONG time.
Better strive to get Reid and Yabusele to solidify the power forward spots
Them acquire wings and shooters
Compe ive
Thunder remind me of the current Celtics. Everyone was sure they were a team built to win les. They’ve won one, and are on the verge of dissolution because of second apron issues.
I don't see that at all. Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum are both on 35% supermaxes while JDub and Holmgren will only be eligible for 25% or 30% max free agent contracts in the summer of 2026. SGA is on a contract he is hugely outperforming until summer 2027 and they don't have any big contracts for aging players like the Celtics with Jrue Holiday. OKC has a team option on Hartenstein for summer 2026 if he isn't living up to his contract by then and the only contract they have I could see becoming questionable is Caruso's, but it maxes out at $22 million in 2028-29 when the salary cap will be nearly $206 million, so less than the equivalent of what the Spurs are paying Barnes right now.
Last edited by baseline bum; 04-29-2025 at 07:15 AM.
One thing about Spurs chances at Giannis is Milwaukee would definitely want to trade him West. They would definitely not want him in the East.
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