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    Some of you need to familiarize yourselves with contracts & outstanding money. Dev+keldon+ Sochan this years two lottery picks + 2 future 1st is a nice enough package I’m thinking.

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    Well the speculation has started anyway:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article...164809665.html

    I agree the spacing would suck if the Spurs didn't pick up any more shooters -- but they're easier to find than a Giannis. If you're going to have one ty shooter out there, that's the guy.

    And I don't even like him.

    Or think the Spurs could win a bidding war.

    But there's no reason to sour grape this already. Due diligence would be...due...if he wants out and the Spurs don't win the lottery.

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    Man, not sure how you would get a giannis/wemby machine smoothly running, but definitely malpractice if the spurs don't take the chance if it's there (assuming wemby is on board). Who plays the 4? Does giannis play center? would wemby play more 3 position? Would also need a smart coach who thinks well outside the box.

    1 cp3
    2 fox
    3. castle
    4. wemby
    5. giannis

    Man, that lineup could go either horribly bad, or scary good.

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    Some of you need to familiarize yourselves with contracts & outstanding money. Dev+keldon+ Sochan this years two lottery picks + 2 future 1st is a nice enough package I’m thinking.
    That's more than enough. I can't say I would be super thrilled but I guess its a move that would make a ton of sense. 4 pics and 3 assets is a lot. Especially considering what we gave up for Fox. Seems would could really round a roster out with that much trade equity vs. 1 star player. However it is Giannis so...

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    as was the case with durant, houston is best positioned here as well. they have a number of young, talented players, and good draft capital to work with. nets dont have good young players to add. Cam Johnson is not the type of guy a rebuilding bucks team would care for.

    i only think nets have a chance if they get a top 2 pick in the lotto. even think i think you'd rather have flagg than giannis right now if you are brooklyn. if they get #2 and have harper's rights, then it gets interesting.

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    I don’t know how it would work, and I’m not going to spend the time to strategize on how to make it happen… but I say DEN should try to remedy the fact they and MIL only managed to each get 1 le out of their respective Top 3 players by combining them together.

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    as was the case with durant, houston is best positioned here as well. they have a number of young, talented players, and good draft capital to work with. nets dont have good young players to add. Cam Johnson is not the type of guy a rebuilding bucks team would care for.

    i only think nets have a chance if they get a top 2 pick in the lotto. even think i think you'd rather have flagg than giannis right now if you are brooklyn. if they get #2 and have harper's rights, then it gets interesting.
    This also makes the Durant situation a little more interesting.

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    I don’t know how it would work, and I’m not going to spend the time to strategize on how to make it happen… but I say DEN should try to remedy the fact they and MIL only managed to each get 1 le out of their respective Top 3 players by combining them together.

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    I don’t know how it would work, and I’m not going to spend the time to strategize on how to make it happen… but I say DEN should try to remedy the fact they and MIL only managed to each get 1 le out of their respective Top 3 players by combining them together.
    Not only that; they have only each made the Finals once (the time they won) and have only one extra trip to the Conference Finals (Bucks in 2019; Nuggets in 2020). Just staggering level of underachievement for the two franchises that have had 5 of last 6 MVP winners on their respective rosters

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    Spurs have repeatedly said they're going to be patient and build this team the right way. Don't see them selling the farm for Giannis, which would undoubtedly include Castle. Rockets are the most likely, or OKC if they don't ring.

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    If you want to see Castle completely stagnate and fail to develop, put him 4th in line behind Wemby, Giannis, and Fox for touches and shots.

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    Spurs have repeatedly said they're going to be patient and build this team the right way. Don't see them selling the farm for Giannis, which would undoubtedly include Castle. Rockets are the most likely, or OKC if they don't ring.
    Yeah, Rockets have the right combo of young player(s)+ draft capital. Nets lack the former. That and the opportunity to send him out West along with him and Hakeem sharing the Nigerian heritage..It's all nicely is lining up for Houston to go hard after him this offseason once this Warriors series exposes their total lack of a franchise, go-to guy..

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    If you want to see Castle completely stagnate and fail to develop, put him 4th in line behind Wemby, Giannis, and Fox for touches and shots.
    Yeah this is why I wouldn’t worry too much about losing Castle in these fantasy Giannis/Durant scenarios. If we acquire one of those guys, Castle is going to stagnate anyway… might as well trade him at that point. (Also, for the record, I’m not a proponent of further star hunting. Let’s build around Wemby/Fox/Castle with some real role players)

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    Houston has a got a real shot (I'm sure they'd much rather use those assets on Giannis instead of Durant if Antetokunmpo is available and go for Giannis instead).

    I also think the Nets could jump in there if they get the number 2 pick. Not sure if they'd want to give up the number 1 pick, though?

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    I'd never give up Castle for a one or two year help like KD, but I don't see how we trade for Giannis without Castle going the other way.
    The same applies for any other team if Giannis actually gets traded.
    Amen, one of Williams/Chet would definitely be gone.

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    Imagine having the possibility of getting Giannis and then having fans complain about losing Castle

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    Jalen Green, one of Sheppard/Jabari Smith + 3x SRP (swaps) should do it, if Giannis demands trade

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    Jalen Green, one of Sheppard/Jabari Smith + 3x SRP (swaps) should do it, if Giannis demands trade
    That's Rockets fanfiction.
    Green is a tank commanxer and Sheppard isn't good.
    Giannis the second best player in the league in his prime.
    A young player with all-star potential has to be included.

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    That's Rockets fanfiction.
    Green is a tank commanxer and Sheppard isn't good.
    Giannis the second best player in the league in his prime.
    A young player with all-star potential has to be included.
    I am looking at Bucks situation. There are ed, Giannis is good enough to take Kuzma, Portis and 50 yrs old Brook Lopez into playins next two years - one without Lillard and 2nd with Lillards corpses. And then he has player option, which he will decline to sign his last big deal at age 33.
    Bucks cant tank, because NOP has their swap.

    Rockets offer will be the best one out there, even without Amen. Jalen Green has to be included for cap reasons. Jalen Green + Amen would be deal breaker for Rockets. Houston has tons of picks/swaps in the next years - Bucks will be getting a haul.

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    I am looking at Bucks situation. There are ed, Giannis is good enough to take Kuzma, Portis and 50 yrs old Brook Lopez into playins next two years - one without Lillard and 2nd with Lillards corpses. And then he has player option, which he will decline to sign his last big deal at age 33.
    Bucks cant tank, because NOP has their swap.

    Rockets offer will be the best one out there, even without Amen. Jalen Green has to be included for cap reasons. Jalen Green + Amen would be deal breaker for Rockets. Houston has tons of picks/swaps in the next years - Bucks will be getting a haul.
    Bucks aren't ed until Giannis asks out, if he even does.
    Picks are a gamble, not enough guaranteed value for a player of Giannis level.

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    Crazy to think OKC are the favorites to win the West, will have the league's MVP, and still have enough assets to add a top 5 player.

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    Bucks aren't ed until Giannis asks out, if he even does.
    Picks are a gamble, not enough guaranteed value for a player of Giannis level.
    But still two years on mediocrity and then pay him 300mil/5 a age 33 for another years of mediocrity. Whats the alternative? Dilute Lillard`s player option for more years at lower salary at age 38 after achilles tear and blood clots ? They have no cap space, no talent, not enough picks to go after any potential superstar trade

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    Crazy to think OKC are the favorites to win the West, will have the league's MVP, and still have enough assets to add a top 5 player.
    They don't have the money. They'd have to move off from one of SGA, Williams, or Chet to get Giannis.

    Part of why the second apron was created was to keep trades like this from happening.

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    But still two years on mediocrity and then pay him 300mil/5 a age 33 for another years of mediocrity. Whats the alternative? Dilute Lillard`s player option for more years at lower salary at age 38 after achilles tear and blood clots ? They have no cap space, no talent, not enough picks to go after any potential superstar trade
    They have enough talent to make the playoffs as a mostly irrelevant franchise. That's goo enough for them.
    We just have to wait and see if it's enough for Giannis.

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    I miss GoZ so much...they need to run it back. Imagine all of the material they would have

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