2025 NBA Draft

[objective]

Carter Bryant looks like the type who will rocket up the charts. He's already jumping up mocks pre combine, and if his combine numbers are legit he's going to pop off. Freshman who made his threes with great size and bouncy athleticism, great steals and blocks numbers, reputation as a good kid ...

Everyone is going to see someone they can mold into a big time player.

Spurs will be lucky to see him there at 8.

I'm off all other bandwagons and on the Bryant train. Choo choo!

[Vienna]

remember Coulibaly in 2023?
that situation looks somehow similar to Bryant.

Coulibaly went up the charts closer to the draft, mock drafts finally had him projected 10-15, but he was picked #7.

there are some similarities between the two. (not comparing every single aspect of their games).

draft experts already factor in the high demand for this type of player and in the end they are picked even higher. (P.Williams)

I agree, if you want Bryant, you have to use #8, but he might not even be there. #14 will be to late, no chance so many teams pass on him.

[KobesAchilles]

What are the main negatives about Carter Bryant? Bc we aren’t looking for a Superstar in this draft. Just as someone who watched 10 whole minutes of him on YouTube he seems pretty good for us. He rebounds, is athletic, finishes strong, moves well without the ball, and can hit a 3 if open.

[scottspurs]

I’ll add to this as more information comes out but I thought it could be useful to make a list of all the players the Spurs have worked out. Feel free to add to it yourself.

Worked out with Spurs


LJ Cryer, Guard - Houston
Micah Peavy, Forward - Georgetown
RJ Felton, Guard - East Carolina

[drpill]

What are the main negatives about Carter Bryant? Bc we aren’t looking for a Superstar in this draft. Just as someone who watched 10 whole minutes of him on YouTube he seems pretty good for us. He rebounds, is athletic, finishes strong, moves well without the ball, and can hit a 3 if open.

I've read (but not personally witnessed) that he may shy away from contact on offense, a bit hesitant to drive into bodies. Maybe because he used to be a smaller player. Also he didn't show much offensive creativity or ballhandling in college, though that is supposed to have been something he displayed in high school.

He was considered a top prospect coming into college and could have chosen a different school with a bigger role, sort of reminiscent of Castle that way though without the same level of immediate success.

[mo7888]

At the 38 pick I’m eying Lanier or Kalkbrenner, though Markovic has raised my curiosity.

Or, trade 38 and a 26 SRP to MIN for 31 where Johnni Broome may be available anyone?

Though who we may target in the second round certainly seems interrelated with who we take in the first.

If it’s not just a stash I can see us taking and older player at this stage in the second who is more NBA ready.

If we're looking for a guy to be on the roster this year at #38 i like Proctor and a few of the older Centers with floor spacing ability.

[mo7888]

Carter Bryant looks like the type who will rocket up the charts. He's already jumping up mocks pre combine, and if his combine numbers are legit he's going to pop off. Freshman who made his threes with great size and bouncy athleticism, great steals and blocks numbers, reputation as a good kid ...

Everyone is going to see someone they can mold into a big time player.

Spurs will be lucky to see him there at 8.

I'm off all other bandwagons and on the Bryant train. Choo choo!

He's got a wide range in the mocks. TaT has him at #26. Personally, I have him at tier 3 (7-12 range) and 12 overall. I have a hard time seeing a team above us taking a guy who averaged 6.5 points per game though. I think he goes between 10-16 myself.

[Vienna]

He was considered a top prospect coming into college and could have chosen a different school with a bigger role, sort of reminiscent of Castle that way though without the same level of immediate success.

he said, he was aware, that Coach Lloyd doesn't play his Freshmen a lot and he wasn't promised minutes or a role. (in fact he was the only Fresh to get minutes to speak of this season).

he went to Arizona, because of family ties (his Aunt played for Arizona) and because he was at games as a kid and loved it and because it's closer to home than other schools. (he had offers from Duke and Louisville).

[Mr. Body]

I've read (but not personally witnessed) that he may shy away from contact on offense, a bit hesitant to drive into bodies. Maybe because he used to be a smaller player. Also he didn't show much offensive creativity or ballhandling in college, though that is supposed to have been something he displayed in high school.

He was considered a top prospect coming into college and could have chosen a different school with a bigger role, sort of reminiscent of Castle that way though without the same level of immediate success.

Looks like Bryant was a four star coming out of high school, not that it matters too much. Well regarded.

The knocks on him along these lines --

- No ball-handling, no playmaking because of this
- Extremely low usage
- Low minutes, low duties
- Nice athleticism, good event-creation, but got eaten up by good players
- Defense, then, is fairly theoretical
- Seems to be a good shooter, but only .695 at the line
- FT numbers very low
- Only scored 6.4 points per game

Arguments for him consist of believing that he was being hidden by the coaches so he would stay another year. (Impossible to believe.) Or that he was boxed behind a lot of upperclassmen. (More believable.)

My feel is that he couldn't be trusted with greater duties at this point. Not to say he can't eventually. Also, his advanced stats look nice, but relatively small sample. His defense and shooting are somewhat theoretical. And on defense he got clobbered by the likes of Flagg. Not too surprising, but more saying this isn't a Kawhi-level college defensive prospect yet.

[drpill]

Five star and number four in the country per this article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...s-to-wildcats/

[couchman]

I think most of the critique's of Bryant's game have been addressed.
The only other one I'll add is that his release is not very fast.
It's not exactly slow, but he's not going to surprise defenders by getting up a quick jumper in their face.

I love his size, his defense looks fantastic, he can knock down spot up 3s and even some movement 3s, and he can finish with authority around the rim.
Pretty much a textbook 3&D prospect.

[ace3g]

[KobesAchilles]

Looks like Bryant was a four star coming out of high school, not that it matters too much. Well regarded.

The knocks on him along these lines --

- No ball-handling, no playmaking because of this
- Extremely low usage
- Low minutes, low duties
- Nice athleticism, good event-creation, but got eaten up by good players
- Defense, then, is fairly theoretical
- Seems to be a good shooter, but only .695 at the line
- FT numbers very low
- Only scored 6.4 points per game

Arguments for him consist of believing that he was being hidden by the coaches so he would stay another year. (Impossible to believe.) Or that he was boxed behind a lot of upperclassmen. (More believable.)

My feel is that he couldn't be trusted with greater duties at this point. Not to say he can't eventually. Also, his advanced stats look nice, but relatively small sample. His defense and shooting are somewhat theoretical. And on defense he got clobbered by the likes of Flagg. Not too surprising, but more saying this isn't a Kawhi-level college defensive prospect yet.

Thanks for the write up. I feel like specifically for the Spurs most of these knocks against him don’t really apply to his role on our team. I mean we wouldn’t want him to have greater offensive duties when we have Wemby and Fox taking most of our shots. Especially if we keep Vassell. Dude would be lucky to get 6 attempts per game even as the 8th pick. And defense is a big question mark for every college kid tbh. Seeing as most college kids barely play against NBA talent and they also play a bunch of zone defense.

If the Spurs stand pat like we all think they are going to then our 8th pick really isn’t going to have much of a role on our team. We would re-sign Sochan and Carter would be behind Barnes, Champ, Sochan and even KJ. Whether or not they should be behind them is another story all together.

I actually feel like our top pick this year has a high chance of going to Austin for most of the year. But I’d rather have a project like Bryant who won’t play make or have the ball in his hands much and can slowly take over that role as the years go by than get a guard who needs the ball in his hands to be effective and has no size.

[LeBowen]

We're in a paradoxical situation when it comes to wing rotation.
Too many players who get regular minutes, but not a single one other than veteran Barnes is reliable.
If we're to compete, current iterations of Keldon and Jeremy just aren't good enough and Champ's ceiling is 8th/9th man on a serious playoff roster.
On top of that, Devin will probably be pushed into SF role yet again.
Despite having all of them, we still need a legit 6'9-6'11 PF to help Wemby.
I'd really like if one of Devin/Keldon/Jeremy gets traded. Keldon surely won't be what we need basketball wise, but he's the team leader (ffs), Jeremy is still on his rookie deal but is still a player in theory and as of now Devin is an overpaid low IQ scorer.
Then draft the BPA wing, don't overthink it.

Oddly enough, there are more guard minutes available because we have just 3 NBA level guards. For example Jakucionis would slot well into that backup PG role.

Tbh, I'm just going to wait a couple more days before thinking about any scenario in depth, every team has different needs and lottery outcome will make it easier to figure out what's going to happen.

[objective]

He's got a wide range in the mocks. TaT has him at #26. Personally, I have him at tier 3 (7-12 range) and 12 overall. I have a hard time seeing a team above us taking a guy who averaged 6.5 points per game though. I think he goes between 10-16 myself.

Guys with 'potential' and no stats get drafted high on occasion

Scottie Barnes only started 7 games, shot 27.5% from 3, scored 10pts and 4 assists and 4 rebounds a game, fewer steals, fewer blocks and went #4
Patrick Williams, bench freshman, 9pts, went #4
Bilal Coulibaly, 5pts in Pro A ball, went #7
Tidjane Salaun, 23mpg and 9pts went #6
Dragan Bender - 4pts and went #4
Hezonja only scored like 6 or 7 points for Barca before getting drafted #5

[scott]

Five star and number four in the country per this article: https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba...s-to-wildcats/

Not saying they are "right", but 24/7 Sports is what I usually see people refer to for HS recruits and they had him as a 4 star:

https://247sports.com/season/2024-ba...oup=HighSchool

[drpill]

Not saying they are "right", but 24/7 Sports is what I usually see people refer to for HS recruits and they had him as a 4 star:

https://247sports.com/season/2024-ba...oup=HighSchool

You're right; at the time the article was written, 247 had him as a five star recruit with a 98 rating, and 4th best prospect overall. They've since revised to four star/96 rating.

https://247sports.com/playersport/ca...history=top247

[Mr. Body]

As of now, I'd be okay with taking Bryant at #8. I'd be a bit disappointed in the draft, but it's fairly middling at that spot and might as well go on upside. Mitch doesn't seem to like to develop players, though, so that's a concern. I'd really want a pop of young talent in this draft and that probably only happens if they trade up, my preferred tactic, but getting possible role players is also needed.

[mo7888]

Guys with 'potential' and no stats get drafted high on occasion

Scottie Barnes only started 7 games, shot 27.5% from 3, scored 10pts and 4 assists and 4 rebounds a game, fewer steals, fewer blocks and went #4
Patrick Williams, bench freshman, 9pts, went #4
Bilal Coulibaly, 5pts in Pro A ball, went #7
Tidjane Salaun, 23mpg and 9pts went #6
Dragan Bender - 4pts and went #4
Hezonja only scored like 6 or 7 points for Barca before getting drafted #5

Of that list only Barnes has worked out so far (although Bilal might make it). You're argument is good though...

[Dejounte]

I’ll add to this as more information comes out but I thought it could be useful to make a list of all the players the Spurs have worked out. Feel free to add to it yourself.

Worked out with Spurs


LJ Cryer, Guard - Houston
Micah Peavy, Forward - Georgetown
RJ Felton, Guard - East Carolina

Peavy… Sorber’s teammate… Spurs interviewing him to collect information on Sorber, tbh

[RC_Drunkford]

If the Spurs stand pat like we all think they are going to then our 8th pick really isn’t going to have much of a role on our team. We would re-sign Sochan and Carter would be behind Barnes, Champ, Sochan and even KJ. Whether or not they should be behind them is another story all together.

I actually feel like our top pick this year has a high chance of going to Austin for most of the year. But I’d rather have a project like Bryant who won’t play make or have the ball in his hands much and can slowly take over that role as the years go by than get a guard who needs the ball in his hands to be effective and has no size.

not really. That wing would basically replace CP3, with Castle playing back up PG. So there will be minutes for the 8th pick in the rotation.

[CGD]

If this shooting stroke is real, I’d have to reevaluate my view of Malauch if he’s there at #8. Looks fluid and with good form.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJXFW_TxYCN/

[exstatic]

If this shooting stroke is real, I’d have to reevaluate my view of Malauch if he’s there at #8. Looks fluid and with good form.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJXFW_TxYCN/

Waiting on the paranoia over his Klutch t-shirt…

[Dejounte]

Tier 1
Flagg


Tier 2
Dylan Harper
VJ Edgecombe
Jase Richardson
Derik Queen


Tier 2.5
Thomas Sorber
Kon Knueppel
Ben Saraf


Tier 3
Tre Johnson
Ace Bailey
Kasparas
Malauch
Will Riley


Tier 3.5
Egor Demin
Noah Penda
Carter Bryant
CMB


Tier 4
Rasheer Fleming
Danny Wolf
Noa Essengue


Tier 4.5
Joan Beringer
Nolan Traore
Asa Newell
Yaxel Lendeborg


Tier 5
Liam McNeeley

[rankingtear]

If this shooting stroke is real, I’d have to reevaluate my view of Malauch if he’s there at #8. Looks fluid and with good form.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DJXFW_TxYCN/

No point in drafting a rim runner even if he can shoot on a non helio system.