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    Biden said he would get rid of Covid and he didnt....
    Is COVID still a huge threat to life in your opinion?

    inflation happened and you go after republicans....you are the fool.
    Inflation would've happened under Trump too. Why do you want more inflation?

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    The Farce of the Deal

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    The US-UK “deal” is the first and only one the US has negotiated since Trump paused tariffs above 10% on countries besides China for 90 days. In the short text of the agreement, the only actual tariff reduction America formally commits to is reducing the 25% car tariff to 10% for the first 100k vehicles exported from Great Britain. Washington promises to create a similar system for British steel & aluminum, but provided exactly zero details on what this actually means. In the press conference, US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick also promised that aircraft engines & parts would be exempted from US tariffs, but this was a lie—the official do ent does not even mention planes. In “exchange”, the US gets some tiny tariff-free quota for beef and ethanol exports. In practice, this means trade policy between the two countries is still several times more restrictive than before Trump took office.

    To say this “deal” is tiny would be an understatement—it is microscopic. The United Kingdom is a relatively small US trading partner, only representing about 2% of American goods imports (that’s less than Vietnam, Taiwan, Ireland, India, or Italy), and this deal only reduced tariffs on about 14% of those British goods. The overall impact on US trade restrictiveness is functionally unnoticeable—the Trump administration’s quiet decision to indefinitely delay tariffs on Mexican/Canadian auto parts was roughly 5-6x more impactful. It would not be inaccurate to characterize this entire episode as basically a PR tour for slightly lower tariffs on Aston Martins & Bentleys.

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    https://www.apricitas.io/p/farce-of-the-deal

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    With foreign tourists boycotting the U.S., businesses brace for falling sales

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    Tourism is a big U.S. export: Foreign visitors spent more than $180 billion here in 2024, more than all agricultural exports combined, said Geoff Freeman, president and CEO of the U.S. Travel Association.

    However, international visits to the U.S. fell 12% year-over-year in March, according to Oxford Economics.

    It’s not just Canada: Visits from Western Europe, Asia and South America — historically the U.S.′ highest-value travel markets — are also down by double-digit percentages, according to the U.S. Travel Association.

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    Nationally, small and mid-sized business profits have already “deteriorated sharply” amid the travel slowdown, said Aaron Terrazas, an economist at Gusto, a payroll and benefits provider.

    The share of “tourism” companies that are profitable fell to 32% in April 2025, down from 41% and 43% in April 2024 and 2023, respectively, according to Gusto. The category includes tour operators, condo or time-share agencies and ticket or reservation agencies.

    The share of profitable “accommodation” businesses fell to 36%, down from 44% and 45%, Gusto found. The category includes small hotels and motels, guesthouses, cottages and cabins, and RV parks and campgrounds.

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    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/10/fore...ss-impact.html

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    Hundreds of dock workers go without work because of Trump's tariffs

    It started Monday with fewer cargo ships coming from China. By the end of this week, it's meant fewer jobs.

    “Just today, we had some what north of 235 members who sought work but were not able to get it,” said Sal DiContanza, port liaison for the International Longshore and Warehouse Union. “It’s beginning to manifest itself as a real loss of jobs and income from our members.”

    DiContanza believes it’s impacting mostly part time workers now but fears it will impact full time workers soon.

    “At this point, its looks like its going to get worse before to get better,” said DiContanza.

    “These tariffs are harming our American people,” said congresswoman Nanette Barragán, who represents the Port of LA.

    Officials from the busiest container port in North America said 136,000 local jobs are directly tied to the Southern California ports and 1.4 million jobs in LA and Long Beach region.

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    https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/l...3698001/?amp=1

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    I think we now have a Bouts 3.0 guys! Copy&Paste re s!

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    BREAKING: China's Vice Premier He Lifeng says both sides agreed to establish a "China-US trade consultation mechanism."

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    BREAKING: China's Vice Premier He Lifeng says both sides agreed to establish a "China-US trade consultation mechanism."
    Lol what does that even mean for these tariffs?

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    U.S. Announces China Trade Deal in Geneva

    Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent: “I’m happy to report that we made substantial progress between the United States and China in the very important trade talks. First, I want to thank our Swiss host. The Swiss government has been very kind in providing us this wonderful venue, and I think that led to a great deal of productivity we’ve seen. We will be giving details tomorrow, but I can tell you that the talks were productive. We had the vice premier, two vice ministers, who were integrally involved, Ambassador Jamieson, and myself. And I spoke to President Trump, as did Ambassador Jamieson, last night, and he is fully informed of what is going on. So, there will be a complete briefing tomorrow morning.”

    U.S. Trade Representative Ambassador Jamieson Greer: “This was, as the Secretary pointed out, a very constructive two days. It’s important to understand how quickly we were able to come to agreement, which reflects that perhaps the differences were not so large as maybe thought. That being said, there was a lot of groundwork that went into these two days. Just remember why we’re here in the first place — the United States has a massive $1.2 trillion trade deficit, so the President declared a national emergency and imposed tariffs, and we’re confident that the deal we struck with our Chinese partners will help us to work toward resolving that national emergency.”
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    "Substantial progress" They have no idea what a trade deal even is.

    US economy is so ed.

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    10% tariffs are still dangerously high, significantly higher than Smoot-Hawley

    all that's happened here is that Trump has withdrawn the 125% tariff rate and China has dropped retaliation -- for 90 days

    The U.S. and China on Monday agreed to temporarily suspend most tariffs on each other’s goods in a move that shows a major thawing of trade tensions between the world’s two largest economies.

    The trade agreement means that “reciprocal” tariffs between both countries will be cut from 125% to 10%. The U.S.′ 20% duties on Chinese imports relating to fentanyl will remain in place, meaning total tariffs on China stand at 30%.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/12/us-a...r-90-days.html

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    is this the reset?

    or just the pause before the reset/decoupling?

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    Cleveland Fed President Beth Hammack says she’s hearing from firms that aren’t sure how much tariffs will go up, so they are beginning to implement a sequence of rolling price hikes to avoid a larger, one time increase in prices. Some firms that haven’t faced tariffs are also raising prices because their compe ors, who do face tariffs, have raised prices.

    “That certainly would be the type of environment where the tariffs could be more inflationary rather than just a one-time increase of the price level.”

    Hammack said it could be a while before the Fed has visibility on whether and how to change rates.

    I don’t want to put a time frame on it, but I think it can be a while…. We might need to wait longer than you would otherwise if you had a clearer picture of where things are.”

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    another Trump flip flop

    squanders leverage, introduces uncertainty, undermines US credibility

    and prolongs the hazard to the US economy

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    there will be small business carnage if this wasn't part of the rollback

    * US-CHINA TRADE DEAL DOES NOT COVER "DE MINIMIS" EXEMPTIONS FOR E-COMMERCE FIRMS, SAYS SOURCE BRIEFED ON THE TALKS

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    Trump Tariffs Begin to Weigh on U.S. Farm Economy

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    Crop traders and processors have been among the hardest-hit. Archer-Daniels-Midland Co. and Bunge Global SA saw their combined operating profits slump by about $750 million in the first quarter, with both companies citing an impact from trade and biofuel policy uncertainty.

    Importers put off purchases of U.S. grain and oilseeds as Trump threatened tariffs as well as levies on any Chinese vessels docking at American ports, reducing trade flows, according to crop merchant the Andersons.

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    Tractor makers CNH Industrial NV and AGCO Corp. also reported lower first-quarter sales, and warned of the possibility of reduced demand for farmers, potentially giving them less to spend on machines to plant, harvest and treat their fields. Both companies have raised prices to ease the impact of tariffs on costs.

    “Geopolitical uncertainties and trade frictions have dampened U.S. farmer sentiment recently,” AGCO CEO Eric Hansotia said during a conference call with analysts. “As a result, demand for machinery was lower in the quarter than we had expected.”

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    Farmers are expected to pay more for pesticides as the U.S. relies on tariff-hit countries such as China and India for some of its supplies. Nutrien Ltd. said its branded products could potentially cost as much as 7.5% more, with even higher adjustments expected for generic ingredients.

    “Long story short is, we’re going to see price increases,” Jeff Tarsi, Nutrien’s president of global retail, said on a Thursday call. “Our plan is to pass those price increases through to our customers.”

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    Brazil is emerging as a winner from the trade tensions. Minerva SA said tariff turmoil drove increased Chinese demand and higher export prices for South American beef in the first quarter, helping lift profits for the Brazilian supplier. Meanwhile, China has effectively shut its market for U.S. meat exporters, including Smithfield Foods.

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    Trump promised U.S. dominance. Instead, energy companies are faltering.

    President Donald Trump promised to unleash an energy renaissance that would lock in U.S. dominance over oil and gas. But that is not how things are working out for America’s drillers, fracking firms and equipment suppliers, including the company founded by Trump’s own energy secretary.

    The market value of Liberty Energy has fallen by nearly half since its former CEO, Chris Wright, joined Trump’s Cabinet. The company reports it is among many in the industry struggling with the challenges heightened by Trump’s agenda, including “tariff impacts, geopolitical tensions, and oil supply concerns.”

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    President Donald Trump promised to unleash an energy renaissance that would lock in U.S. dominance over oil and gas. But that is not how things are working out for America’s drillers, fracking firms and equipment suppliers, including the company founded by Trump’s own energy secretary.

    The market value of Liberty Energy has fallen by nearly half since its former CEO, Chris Wright, joined Trump’s Cabinet. The company reports it is among many in the industry struggling with the challenges heightened by Trump’s agenda, including “tariff impacts, geopolitical tensions, and oil supply concerns.”

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    Oil is not the only corner of the energy industry struggling. The president’s policies imperil major clean power projects designed to help address the very energy shortages that moved Trump to declare a national energy emergency. Trump’s order to halt all regulatory approvals for wind farms on his first day in office is causing projects to be delayed and abandoned. Offshore wind projects were hit particularly hard because the administration controls approvals in federal coastal waters.

    Trump also froze billions of dollars in grants to other clean energy projects, leading to the cancellation of planned factories in the U.S. that would manufacture solar cells and industrial-scale batteries that store solar and wind power. They are components data center builders say are crucial to providing the needed power to beat China in artificial intelligence development.
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mark...ng/ar-AA1Ew6KQ

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    Trump might claim China tariff victory – but this is Capitulation Day

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    If Trump is indeed ready to give in even with Beijing, it sends a signal that some of the other aggressive aspects of his trade policy may be negotiable.

    What Bessent and his Chinese counterparts have not erased, however, is the corrosive uncertainty that has gripped investors across the global economy since Trump’s “Liberation Day” tariff announcement.

    China tariffs have only been slashed temporarily, for now and many other countries are still awaiting negotiations on where their tariff levels will end up, after that other 90-day pause, on Trump’s “reciprocal” levies, due to end in July.

    Meanwhile, companies throughout the global trading system are left wondering which particular iteration of the policy is likely to stick, and may well be tempted to continue working around the US, where possible.

    And with 30% tariffs remaining on Chinese exports to the US, the bigger picture remains of two great economic powers pulling apart.
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...pitulation-day

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    For what?

    What does pushback mean?

    Price controls?

    Read the news today. The ball is rolling now.

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    Read the news today. The ball is rolling now.
    Give the summary.

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    The 90-Day Truce: What the U.S.-China Trade Deal Really Means
    Markets cheer, critics scoff—but this deal gives America room to maneuver.

    On May 12, 2025, after months of economic whiplash and geopolitical tension, Washington and Beijing declared a ceasefire in the tariff war that has defined this administration’s return to power. Announced from Geneva—neutral ground, as ever—the new U.S.-China trade deal slashes tariffs for 90 days, installs a consultation mechanism, and, in theory, hits pause on a decoupling that looked increasingly irreversible.

    Wall Street rejoiced. Stocks soared. The dollar surged. Gold fell. And, predictably, market analysts dusted off their thesauruses to hail the deal as “better than expected,” “workable,” even a “dream scenario.” Behind the headlines lies a practical achievement: not a final settlement, but a meaningful shift—one that signals renewed economic engagement between the world’s two largest economies.
    The Terms: A Breath, With Strategic Intent

    The core of the deal is numerical: the U.S. reduces tariffs on Chinese imports from a punishing 145% to 30%, with a 20% fentanyl-related tariff remaining in place. China responds by cutting its retaliatory tariffs from 125% to 10%. A consultation platform is established—an ins utional step toward more predictable, rules-based engagement.

    While it’s true that thornier issues like subsidies and tech transfer remain unresolved, this agreement is no mere “pause.” It’s a tactical move that restores leverage and sets the stage for more serious negotiations. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent made clear: this is not about capitulation, but stability.

    The new framework reflects the Trump administration’s pragmatic turn—firm on principle, flexible in execution. It’s a move that reassures allies and cools inflation at home, without giving away the store.
    Wall Street Cheers—and Sees a Path Forward

    Markets, ever hungry for clarity, reacted with enthusiasm. The S&P 500 jumped. Maersk soared 12%. Tech stocks surged. The dollar rose. The volatility index (VIX) dropped significantly, suggesting that investors now see risk as manageable, not existential.

    Jordan Rochester of Mizuho called it a reversal of the “Sell America” narrative. That sentiment matters. After years of doubts about the resilience of U.S. leadership, this deal sends a message: America remains the indispensable economy.

    And for working Americans, the benefits are tangible. With tariffs cut, prices on everyday goods—from clothes to electronics—are likely to fall. That’s a direct win for families navigating a tough inflationary stretch.


    A Political and Strategic Win

    For President Trump, this is not just good optics—it’s good statecraft. After months of tough posturing, he secured a deal that gives both sides room to breathe. He did so without abandoning his nationalist trade instincts or caving to elite pressure. That’s not easy. And it’s not nothing.

    Critics may argue that cutting tariffs first looks like a blink. But that misses the point. The U.S. retains its key fentanyl tariffs. It still holds unmatched consumer leverage. And it now has a formal mechanism to press harder on structural issues—without the chaos of brinkmanship.

    This isn’t retreat. It’s repositioning. And it’s smart.

    What’s Really Going On?

    The deal reflects hard economic realities on both sides. The U.S. economy needed relief from inflationary pressures. China, facing a slowdown and rising global isolation, needed access to markets. This agreement is mutual self-interest, not weakness.

    More importantly, it acknowledges that full-scale decoupling isn’t in either nation’s interest. Strategic compe ion will continue. But this deal shows that diplomacy and pressure can coexist—that the U.S. can drive a hard bargain without burning bridges.

    The Clock Is Ticking

    The 90-day window is short. If follow-through falters, tariffs could return. But the establishment of a standing consultation mechanism increases the odds of sustained engagement. It’s a small but significant ins utional foothold.

    And while the broader trend of strategic decoupling hasn’t ended, this deal carves out space to manage it—smartly, and without economic self-harm.
    Final Word

    The U.S.-China deal of May 2025 is a clear win—not just for markets, but for the administration’s trade strategy. It eases pressure on consumers, reassures investors, and proves that tough tactics can lead to meaningful engagement.

    It’s not a final chapter. But it’s a well-played move in a long game. And for now, the United States is writing the next page on its own terms.

    https://quantus.substack.com/p/the-9...dRedirect=true

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    Read the news today. The ball is rolling now.
    Yeah, I saw that he wants to make drugs more expensive overseas to match the prices in the US.

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    The 90-Day Truce: What the U.S.-China Trade Deal Really Means
    Markets cheer, critics scoff—but this deal gives America room to maneuver.

    On May 12, 2025, after months of economic whiplash and geopolitical tension, Washington and Beijing declared a ceasefire in the tariff war that has defined this administration’s return to power. Announced from Geneva—neutral ground, as ever—the new U.S.-China trade deal slashes tariffs for 90 days, installs a consultation mechanism, and, in theory, hits pause on a decoupling that looked increasingly irreversible.

    Wall Street rejoiced. Stocks soared. The dollar surged. Gold fell. And, predictably, market analysts dusted off their thesauruses to hail the deal as “better than expected,” “workable,” even a “dream scenario.” Behind the headlines lies a practical achievement: not a final settlement, but a meaningful shift—one that signals renewed economic engagement between the world’s two largest economies.
    The Terms: A Breath, With Strategic Intent

    The core of the deal is numerical: the U.S. reduces tariffs on Chinese imports from a punishing 145% to 30%, with a 20% fentanyl-related tariff remaining in place. China responds by cutting its retaliatory tariffs from 125% to 10%. A consultation platform is established—an ins utional step toward more predictable, rules-based engagement.

    While it’s true that thornier issues like subsidies and tech transfer remain unresolved, this agreement is no mere “pause.” It’s a tactical move that restores leverage and sets the stage for more serious negotiations. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent made clear: this is not about capitulation, but stability.

    The new framework reflects the Trump administration’s pragmatic turn—firm on principle, flexible in execution. It’s a move that reassures allies and cools inflation at home, without giving away the store.
    Wall Street Cheers—and Sees a Path Forward

    Markets, ever hungry for clarity, reacted with enthusiasm. The S&P 500 jumped. Maersk soared 12%. Tech stocks surged. The dollar rose. The volatility index (VIX) dropped significantly, suggesting that investors now see risk as manageable, not existential.

    Jordan Rochester of Mizuho called it a reversal of the “Sell America” narrative. That sentiment matters. After years of doubts about the resilience of U.S. leadership, this deal sends a message: America remains the indispensable economy.

    And for working Americans, the benefits are tangible. With tariffs cut, prices on everyday goods—from clothes to electronics—are likely to fall. That’s a direct win for families navigating a tough inflationary stretch.


    A Political and Strategic Win

    For President Trump, this is not just good optics—it’s good statecraft. After months of tough posturing, he secured a deal that gives both sides room to breathe. He did so without abandoning his nationalist trade instincts or caving to elite pressure. That’s not easy. And it’s not nothing.

    Critics may argue that cutting tariffs first looks like a blink. But that misses the point. The U.S. retains its key fentanyl tariffs. It still holds unmatched consumer leverage. And it now has a formal mechanism to press harder on structural issues—without the chaos of brinkmanship.

    This isn’t retreat. It’s repositioning. And it’s smart.

    What’s Really Going On?

    The deal reflects hard economic realities on both sides. The U.S. economy needed relief from inflationary pressures. China, facing a slowdown and rising global isolation, needed access to markets. This agreement is mutual self-interest, not weakness.

    More importantly, it acknowledges that full-scale decoupling isn’t in either nation’s interest. Strategic compe ion will continue. But this deal shows that diplomacy and pressure can coexist—that the U.S. can drive a hard bargain without burning bridges.

    The Clock Is Ticking

    The 90-day window is short. If follow-through falters, tariffs could return. But the establishment of a standing consultation mechanism increases the odds of sustained engagement. It’s a small but significant ins utional foothold.

    And while the broader trend of strategic decoupling hasn’t ended, this deal carves out space to manage it—smartly, and without economic self-harm.
    Final Word

    The U.S.-China deal of May 2025 is a clear win—not just for markets, but for the administration’s trade strategy. It eases pressure on consumers, reassures investors, and proves that tough tactics can lead to meaningful engagement.

    It’s not a final chapter. But it’s a well-played move in a long game. And for now, the United States is writing the next page on its own terms.

    https://quantus.substack.com/p/the-9...dRedirect=true
    It's repositioning by retreating.

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