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Just a vibe, but I'm confident Giannis will be a Spur when all the deals are finished.
For the third year in a row, I didn't watch the lottery. For the third year in a row, we came out smelling of gold.
Here are some general thoughts on routes we can take with our continued good fortune.
1. Take Dylan Harper. Comes from phenomenal NBA pedigree, very skilled player who could grow into a full-time offensive load-bearer. Shades of Harden and some other players. Problem? His skill-set massively overlaps with De-Aaron Fox, Stephon Castle, and even Victor Wembanyama, who all need the lane to be fully effective. (In fact, I think he's very similar to Castle in many ways, less of a defender, better scorer.) He's also high usage, which may be a problem, too.
2. Trade back. It's been long consensus that Harper is the number two guy in this draft and a potential franchise guy who would be highly attractive for teams in nearby range. If he doesn't fit the team, the Spurs could bump back a few slots and get a nice package of current or future assets. I wonder if the SAS have had a player dear to their hearts who fits their need badly who may actually project to be just as good as Harper in the future (*cough cough*Tre Johnson*cough cough*).
3. Heist Flagg. Dallas is a conundrum. Their window is extremely short, their GM is mental. They badly want Giannis, it appears. The smart set takes Flagg, but... Giannis! Paired with AD, that's quite a frontline. I'm sure Milwaukee would love to have Flagg, but Harper may actually be a better bet for them. Flagg is a super-charged utility guy, Harper may be a new Lillard type. Can the Spurs get in there for a lovely threesome, get Dallas their Giannis, get a nice package of assets and Harper to the Bucks and come away with Flagg? It... doesn't seem impossible.
Just a vibe, but I'm confident Giannis will be a Spur when all the deals are finished.
Oh yeah I didn't include that one:
4. Trade for Giannis. I don't think this is happening. He's 30 years old and I don't see the Spurs burning a long-term asset in favor of a few years.
Why wouldn't bucks just trade giannis flagg straight up in your scenario? The only way flagg falls is if Nico gets high in his own supply and tries to be smart. And I seriously doubt the mavs owner trades a white boy for a foreignerHeist Flagg. Dallas is a conundrum. Their window is extremely short, their GM is mental. They badly want Giannis, it appears. The smart set takes Flagg, but... Giannis! Paired with AD, that's quite a frontline. I'm sure Milwaukee would love to have Flagg, but Harper may actually be a better bet for them. Flagg is a super-charged utility guy, Harper may be a new Lillard type. Can the Spurs get in there for a lovely threesome, get Dallas their Giannis, get a nice package of assets and Harper to the Bucks and come away with Flagg? It... doesn't seem impossible
The first priority should be seeing if Nico is re ed enough to move down a spot. Even if it takes 3 extra FRPs, you do it.
Forget about Bucks not taking Flagg in a trade with the Mavs.
After this one doesn't happen, there should be extensive scouting and evaluation done.
Imo, workouts will determine if Harper warrants a pick considering the suboptimal fit.
Trade back? I don't see any realistic scenarios. Brandon Miller and Trey Murphy III are the only two players that would intrigue me.
Potential Giannis trade will happen before the draft, I don't think it will drag on too long. And I'm not sure he gets traded.
One of Harper or Castle, whoever else they want on the roster except Fox/Wemby and 4 to 5 FRPs would be my best offer.
Well it's happening if the spurs can keep the cost low that 2nd pick is gone
The Spurs are in the fabled cat bird seat! What a tremendous stroke of good luck.
Interviews and workouts will be huge. So many moving pieces now in play throughout the league. Spurs are in the game as much as anyone.
btw, Trey Murphy cant be traded until July 1
After the moronic trade and the Nico had to take i don't think he'll trade Flagg, even for Giannis
There's just alot of interesting paths we can take. My favorite it getting in the 3-way to get Flagg. After that I'd really like to explore trading back (but not too far). If I didn't like the package I'd be very happy to take Harper and somebody like McNeeley at #14 and call it a day.
in the event dallas makes a trade for Giannis, i just cant envision the Bucks electing for a version where they get Dylan Harper back and not Flagg
It could work if Flagg tells them you I'll go back to Duke if you don't trade me to San Antonio. It's a long shot as I doubt he's risking that payday but that's how it could happen.
Harper paired with Anthony Davis works better than Flagg, more balanced at least. Give some decent young players like Vassell, who knows what Nico does, lol.
Trading back -- I need to think about things, but I'm not sure I have Edgecombe or Johnson too far off from Harper. But maybe the gap is too serious. Harper could wind up being a superstar. Johnson, however, is precisely the gunner the team could use. I do think they'll consider calls from Philly and Utah, etc.
Btw, here is James Harden, a crafty, bulky guard out of Arizona State, against Dylan Harper, a crafty, bulky guard out of Rutgers. Note that Harden was a sop re.
https://tankathon.com/players/compar...--james-harden
Dallas may not have the assets the Spurs do. Depends on how the first pick is valued relative to the second plus the rest of the draft capital the Spurs have.
Still think Flagg is worth more.
Dylan Harper or trade for Giannis. Flagg and Harper seem clearly ahead of everyone else in the class.
whats funny is the only reason the Flagg/Mavs fit seems just a bit odd is AD's insistence that he only play the 4. he made a big fuss about it in LA, and Dallas made sense as a destination because he would play the 4 alongside Lively/Gafford.
If AD would just nut up and play center, then it all works out
but either way, mavs are taking and holding Flagg. i know "but nico"... but that caveat makes any serious discussion implausible since there is literally no predictability
i think the trade-back scenario makes a lot of sense too. after this year, we no longer have excess first round picks, we just have one per year (with swap rights build into a few of them, to be fair). we can move back, reload on those excess assets to help make trades later, and land a coveted shooter like Tre Johnson or Kon if that's what they want.
washington has some nice picks with swap rights with phoenix, and they're desperate for a franchise guy to kind of glue together their amalgamation of solid yet awkward players
Here's a thought (maybe a brain fart), but what if Dallas decides they want to take the long approach and build around Flagg instead of trading for Giannis? If they called and offered AD for #2 + our choice of filler, what would you say?
mavs made a big stink about trading away Luka because they prioritized defense. Davis was how they sold it. trading him for Harper doesnt add up at all. they are looking to win now, they dont have great draft capital.
doesnt make much sense for the spurs either, as awesome as a healthy Davis is
We don't want street clothes rubbing his weak ass bones and infecting them with it
For me the serious discussion would be about if Harper is that far away from Flagg as a prospect?
If they pick Flagg, they simply have to find another creator. And they have very little to do it with.
As I wrote in that other topic, the realistic trade I could see happening is giving them back their 2030 swap and getting PJ Washington.
He'll be completely redundant there with Flagg and Mavs need to get back any assets they can.
With Flagg being there, that swap's value has dropped significantly
I was thinking about Brandon, but the problem with that is the fit with Lamelo.
man, we have too many ing guards/wings already but Harper is legit. lol
Trade the pick along with at least a wing or two for a big. If the Bucks would really trade Giannis for the #2, Vassell, and Keldon; we pull that trigger.
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