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The delusion is that you think there is even an iota of a chance that Milwaukee would want Harper instead of Flagg. That is NEVER going to happen.
Draft Harper
Figure out fit later. Milwaukee will want a haul for Giannis and I think path with elite young talent on rookie deals will yield better long term result. Gives you better cap flexibility as well.
Fox trade looks even better with getting the #2 in this draft.
Also have the 14.
Major factor here is Wemby’s health, that could lead to win now mindset. Otherwise this draft became much easier for the Spurs, at least for their first 1st round pick.
The delusion is that you think there is even an iota of a chance that Milwaukee would want Harper instead of Flagg. That is NEVER going to happen.
So many what ifs, strategies, here an there. It just boils down on wemby being mature, develop a post move and stop playing stupid basketball.
We don’t have the 1 pick, sorry to inform you. Obviously you know I am referring to everyone flipping out about how “bad” Bailey measured. Just because you have other concerns about him, so what. I hope we draft Bailey now just to piss you off.
Harper is a lefty?Harper is basically a left handed Primo that is actually good. If y'all think BWrong is passing on him, you haven't been paying attention tbh
Yeah, I'm sold.
If the Bucks are enamored with Harper then they are gonna have to settle for whatever we are willing to give up. If not, keep Harper and let the chips fall where they may. It's honestly a fantastic position for the Spurs to be in.
Doubt it, he's going to get plenty of touches to run the offense as the lead guard off the bench. And in a few years, he's going to be the starting PG next to a prime Wemby. His camp would be dumb AF to pass that opportunity up tbh.Harper isn't gonna be happy about coming off the bench his Rookie year tbh.
Imagine his camp asks us not to draft him for that reason
True.Harper isn't gonna be happy about coming off the bench his Rookie year tbh.
Imagine his camp asks us not to draft him for that reason
Daddy Ron has shown he has no problem pushing narratives for news cycles in the interest of junior. National media would love to have a new Lavar to smear the Spurs with
Starters: Fox/Castle/Vassell/Barnes/Wemby
Bench: Harper/Champ/Keldon/Sochan/Backup C
Still tbd on what happens with CP3. Still a glaring hole at backup C and desperately need more shooting. But if they can move Keldon (wishful thinking) and Devin to shore up those holes, that's a playoff team tbh.
Man, immediate future will look a lot better with adding Fox, Castle, and Harper in last 12 months.
Still have enough of the Atlanta picks and the various pick swaps over the next 5 years to keep using the draft to replenish the supporting cast.
Stay young, keep cap flexibility. Still have a lot of tradeable assets for the right deal(s) in the coming years.
No. But what about Dev + 14 for Middleton + 6?
I was CEO of the Lauri Gang last summer... but absolutely not for me. Maybe #2 for Lauri and #5 and a future pick... but Lauri contract is now a net negative.
I was out on him before the measurements, and that did nothing to change my mind. A lot of his hype was built around a skilled 6’10” wing archetype. Those are rare. 6’8” dudes who dominate the ball inefficiently, unfortunately are not rare.
Thinking of trade down scenarios, here is how that currently shapes up for me (my opinion will obviously differ from others... I'm not trying to saying the below is the objective truth... just my take):
#3. Philly - I don't see anyone on their team worth trading down for. But #2 for #3 and future picks? If the Spurs really liked someone better than Harper this could make sense but Philly has no reason to go for Harper... I don't see it happening.
#4. Charlotte - #2 for #4 and Brandon Miller? Hmmmmm... the fit is pretty nice honestly... but why would CHA do this? I don't see anything worth discussing here.
#5. Utah - There is an obvious fit here with Lauri. #2 for Lauri and #5? I'd still want one other pick to offset Lauri's contract. Ainge likes to win trades, so I don't know there is much to discuss here.
#6. Washington - #2 for #6 and Bilal? Only if Wemby is demanding it, I guess... I don't like it.
#7. New Orleans - I wish the Pels were higher to make this more viable. I don't want to drop to 7. I'm a huge TMIII fan, but I think I'd need to get TMIII and Herb to consider dropping to 7.
Beyond this, I think they are more likely trade ups for 14 than trade downs from 2.
Is Ron very hands on? Is he likely to get quite involved?
'Cause Markannen doesn't fit their timeline, a #2 prospect is, in theory, more than what Markannen is, and, let's face it, he would fit like a glove here, but he isn't all that, either.
I was hesitant because I don't know if I would do it as a Spurs fan, tbh.
Vassell needs the ball too much to be effective. Spurs getting the second pick is his death knell. Dude is getting traded.
The size was the big selling point with Bailey though back when we thought he was 6'10".
I don't love the trade down scenarios tbh
This draft flattens out for a while after Flagg and Harper. Harper is also a #1 pick in most drafts (think Cade). Dropping from him to #6 or something would just take a monumental overpay for me to consider it. I'm talking proven talent + multiple unprotected 1sts on top of a top 8 pick in this draft.
No.
, even Lavar is pretty hands off nowadays. That shouldn't even register as a slight concern tbh.
Bailey actually hitting anywhere near his ceiling feels like a longshot.
I'm all in for Harper, I think he could end up on a Cade trajectory. Giannis? Not really interested now tbh, he would create a short window perhaps but at considerable cost (Castle/Harper plus more salary and picks?). I also don't think Giannis/Wemby/Fox is nearly the sure thing some people think it would be. The team overall is very inexperienced and not ready for a championship or bust mentality. Top heavy veteran star teams can't last long in the apron world, you need star players on rookie deals (ie Wemby and Castle/Harper if they hit) to really stack up a decent run.
Only somewhat possible way i'd consider moving off the #2 pick is if it got back the #1 pick for Flagg. If the price was reasonable (it won't be) I would do it.
I'm surprised there isn't a "2025 Draft Prospect: Dylan Harper" thread yet
#2 for Troy Murphy and Herb Jones?
I'm just throwing at the wall at this point, tbh.
I'd throw the majority of our draft assets at Dallas to see if Nico will blink. Otherwise, just draft Harper and see if you can balance the roster a little better through trades and free agency. Giannis is great and would theoretically open up a le window, but he also exacerbates the spacing issues the team already has unless a bunch of shooters are coming with him. I don't think trading back is the answer either unless you're getting an amazing young player back. If Fox/Castle/Harper turns out not to be the best fit, you can look at trades down the line but I don't think you can pass on the opportunity to make your team better in the long-term unless there's a better long-term opportunity.
We haven't made the playoffs in 6-7 straight seasons. No considerations should be made about fit. You just take the best player available.
WHAT?? You'd give up Castle + Harper (potentially at #2) for Flagg? Castle literally exceeded expectations and looked like a vet out there at times. Flagg hasn't even played a second yet. Then... Atlanta's assets too? Tell me you're joking.
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