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How does Dylan Harper compare with previous draft prospects?
You draft Harper without a thought. Kid can be a superstar. Him & Steph would be insane.
Move Fox to Minny.
How does Dylan Harper compare with previous draft prospects?
The expectation i've seen is that a potential deal would start with Harper/Castle/salary filler + a buncha future 1sts and be tuned from there. I agree, if it basically boiled down to #2 for Giannis you absolutely do it. The Bucks would get much much better offers from half the league, though.
Jamichael Davis. he is one of the best friends of Ace from his hometown, they grew up playing basketball together for McEachern high school and Davis went to Rutgers the year before.
Nico is getting a second chance at life. He has no choice but to take Flagg unfortunately.
Harper will be the pick. Spurs will see what they have this year back in at least the play in.
I don’t get it. Okc won 68 games this year playing three guards and two bigs.
There’s Shai - Fox is definitely a poorer man’s version here, but still really good
There’s Dort - Short but strong and a great defender - Sounds like Castle should work here but great height
And the third guard is Jdub. Jdub is actually a good comp for Harper. I have seen several references as such and thought of it myself before seeing said references. Jdub has great wingspan but so does Harper, over 6’10” and he’s going to be a great driver and scorer just like Jdub
i would just go with this for a season and see how it works out. Maybe trade #14 up to snag Queen and then you can have Queen/Wemby to play against Chet/iHeart.
I think this should at least get you into the playoffs next year if it worked so well for Okc.
Last edited by sfernald; 05-13-2025 at 01:59 AM.
wow.. that's a laughable request.. for one of the highest paid players that is now past his prime.
Didn't realize this kid was half Filipino. Seems like a pretty well-rounded dude though tbh. Very well-spoken. Definitely a Spurs type personality.
Are you joking? Dude was basically 31/12/7 last year with an over 30 PER.
offensively, you kind of just take everything about castle (other than raw strength) and make it better. better at getting to the rim. much better at finishing at the rim. gets to the line more. has a better midrange jumper. has a better 3 point shot. is just as good a passer. his rim pressure is special though. he has drawn shai comps because of how well he finishes at the rim
in terms of tier of prospect, he's probably a worthy #1 pick in years without "generational" type guys. he'd easily have gone #1 overall last year. he's probably comparable to cade in terms of prospect tier.
Last edited by spurraider21; 05-13-2025 at 02:06 AM.
I believe he is top 5 in the last 5 years imo
Wemby
Flagg
Cade
Edwards
Harper
Honorable mention:
Covid Face Mask Chet
No to Giannis (timeline).
No to Flagg (unless it's for #2 + two firsts max).
I like some of the trade down scenarios though. Especially the Miller one (but unsure if Charlotte shows interest) and if Pels would include Herb and Murphy.
In the end we are going to draft Harper anyway and probably it's the right choice.
Draft Dylan Harper (no brainer, he will be a superstar, as much as Flagg, more than Castle)
Trade Giannis for Castle / Vessel / KJ (it will be hard for MIL to have a better offer than the reigning ROY)
you can't quibble about fit when you're picking number two in my opinion
in last year's draft? maybe but harper is such a damn good prospect that you take the best player available and figure it the out
bailey and even edgecombe have intriguing athletic upside but the opportunity to run harper at the two-guard (if you believe in his shot enough) with a PG rotation of fox/castle is salivating
also taking harper likely means vassell is getting fewer touches and minutes which is probably a good thing (i think devin may actually be a considerably better player off the bench)
unless there's a godfather offer from another team to move up to #2 - or milwaukee dangle giannis - you just take a guy who'd be #1 in a ton of recent drafts and be happy about it
concerns about a future backcourt log-jam or power-struggle? i refer you to my earlier point (figure it the out)
yeah, so? He played 67 games and has played 70 or more once in the last 6 years. He wants to go, milwakee has to restart from scratch, a retool won't do them any good. they aren't getting flagg, so number 2 is the best they can hope for. What else can they get tbh
yeah. I’m in on this kid.
I love the OKC comp. 3 guards, 2 bigs. Let’s do it.
I think the Spurs have the ace card here. They can keep Harper and save assets and future picks. Play 3-guards (Pop was always drooling over 3-guard offense, draft Fleming, 9’1 standing reach who can shoot the 3.
Mavs would love to run it now, instead of waiting for Kyrie and his ACL. They need a replacement- Harper is perfect. I see them listening to Flagg/Dylan swap plus multiple picks. Spurs get Flagg.
Again the Spurs doesn’t need to show too-eager. Either way works.
And no 30 yrs old Giannis. The Mavs can have him in 3-team deal.
Last edited by John B; 05-13-2025 at 02:38 AM.
Houston and theoretically OKC could open the war chests. I doubt OKC would as they are kind of in the drivers seat to win the le at this point.
Personally I'd go get Trey Murphy with that pick. Overpay this, overpay that, I don't care. Having an elite shooting wing will change the outlook of that roster. New Orleans is probably desperate enough too.
Original sin was trading for Fox but nothing you can do about it now.
I’d burn the arena down if they were that stupid
Jazz had their chance. They wanted too much for him, they can keep him. They'd have to throw a lot more our way if that wanted that number 2 pick.
People comparing the OKC 3-guard lineup to Fox-Harper-Castle, it’s not the same. I see the similarities but it’s not the same.
SGA - standing reach 8’8. Basically SF size length.
Lu Dort - standing reach 8’3.5 but build like a linebacker. He’s a 2/3.
Jaylen Williams - standing reach 8’9.5 standing reach. Massive even for a SF.
Fox - standing reach 8’4 and rail thin. He’s a 1.
Harper - standing reach 8’6 which is very good 2-guard size.
Castle - standing teach 8’6 same as Harper.
The biggest swing factors are Jalen Williams has straight up big SF size so he easily matches up with big physical wings. Spurs do not have that with the Fox-Harper-Castle trio. Then on offensive end you don’t have the spacing/shooting.
I think the spurs can run with it for a year to see what they have in Harper and Castle. But that lineup does not have positional size on the defensive end and doesn’t have the shooting required.
Having thought it over, it's either Flagg miracle trade up or Harper for me.
Trade for Flagg scenario wouldn't be that outrageous, copy/pasting my other post.
If not, just keep Harper and do the OKC/Cavs style of roster. As I said earlier, both teams play with 3 perimeter 6'6 and under guys, with 2 bigs.Since Nico is probably still on the win now timeline, maybe we could entice them by taking on Kyrie's contract? Would take out out of serious contention in the upcoming season, but it will be an expiring $44M deal.
Mavs don't have the assets to move it elsewhere and even though they got Flagg, I don't think a rookie moves the needle for them. AD will be 33 when next season's playoffs start and they don't have a single point guard on the roster.
#2, Devin, Barnes, '30 swap returned '27 ATL for #1, Kyrie
They get their point guard of the future, two very good picks and two easily moveable contracts.
Don't forget that Flagg is a New Balance guy and Nico is a former Nike executive. Harper is also Nike.
The only move that would simply have to be made is getting a legit PF/C.
Naz and Aldama are unrealistic, it would have to be John Collins.
Keldon and either Jeremy or #14 pick should do it.
Fox/Harper as PG/SG
Castle/Devin as SG/SF
Barnes/Champ as SF/PF
Collins/rookie or Jeremy as PF/C
Wemby/veteran backup as C
Mitch has shown he can create a good offense, Spurs scored 117ppg in March and April, but we can't enter the season without a legit starting PF, defense would be horrible again.
A lot of teams in the West have big PFs, there's just no way around not having one.
AD, Gordon, Randle, Jabari, nephew, Lebron, JJJ, Zion, Chet, those are the PF matchups, I don't think even Jeremy is big enough. But there are way less dangerous SFs that would bully Castle.
Also if you think 2-3 inches in height or standing reach doesn’t matter in the NBA on the defensive end, go draft a 6’8 center instead of a 6’11 center and see how it works out. Go draft a 6’5 power forward instead of a 6’8 PF and see how it works out. Go draft a 6’3 SF instead of a 6’6 SF and see how it works out.
It all depends on the trends in the league.
As I just wrote, a big PF is a must, but there are not many teams that have two big forwards.
Big as in both long and strong, Castle wouldn't have issues matching with that type. MPJ or McDaniels for example.
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