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    Draft lottery is 100% rigged btw. I was already pretty skeptical, but this year definitely sealed it. There's just no way that Dallas just happened to jump up 10 spots to the #1 Overall Pick with their 1.8% chance the same year that they inexplicably traded their 25 yearly Superstar franchise player to the NBA's biggest market for pennies on the dollar in probably the worst trade in NBA history. No way.

    Same way Cavs got the #1 Pick the year their hometown hero Lebron was in the draft despite only having a 2% chance.

    Same way Chicago got the top pick with only a 1.8% chance the year the hometown kid Derrick Rose came out.

    Same way the Cavs got the #1 Overall pick the year LeBron abandoned them for Miami.

    Same way the Pelicans got the #1 Overall Pick the year A.D. was forcefully traded to the Lakers.

    The NBA = Sports entertainment. Hilarious how obvious it is now though.

    Don't forget wolves getting first after trading Kevin love. Somehow if you're involved in helping lebron you get first pick

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    Don't forget wolves getting first after trading Kevin love. Somehow if you're involved in helping lebron you get first pick
    What percentage chance did the Wolves have to get the number 1 pick that year?

    Also, anyone know what percentage chance the Spurs had of getting the number 1 pick in 1997/98?

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    #2 for Jaylen Brown?

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    What percentage chance did the Wolves have to get the number 1 pick that year?

    Also, anyone know what percentage chance the Spurs had of getting the number 1 pick in 1997/98?
    To be fair they have the best odds. Its just a repeated pattern of giving stuff to lebron. Wins lottery

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    Conspiracy theorists with a ton of material right now but the biggest winner in all this is going to be Nico because people will no longer think he’s a complete idiot. They’ll think he’s a mastermind for pulling off a good trade by sending Luka for AD and Flagg.

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    Conspiracy theorists with a ton of material right now but the biggest winner in all this is going to be Nico because people will no longer think he’s a complete idiot. They’ll think he’s a mastermind for pulling off a good trade by sending Luka for AD and Flagg.
    Never thought he was an idiot myself tbh, especially considering the moves he made the past few seasons. The Luka trade always smelled rigged and the Mavs jumping up to #1 seals it.

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    #2 for Jaylen Brown?
    if its confirmed that Tatum tore his achilles (seems likely) then yeah it could be a year for boston to start moving money. move brown somewhere, move holiday elsewhere... at the same time, by the time the 26-27 season starts and Tatum is back, White will be 32, KP will be 31, Horford will probably be retired at 40.

    now if they spend that year to develop Harper, and get something reasonable back for Holiday, you could be looking at Harper/White/Tatum/(piece from Jrue Trade)/KP and still be in a good position

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    Never thought he was an idiot myself tbh, especially considering the moves he made the past few seasons. The Luka trade always smelled rigged and the Mavs jumping up to #1 seals it.
    honestly i dont know how you can rig the current version of the NBA lotto considering its on video, you have reps from every team there, and even some media folk who sit around in the room.

    i think Nico was instructed by ownership to trade Luka, not by the league

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    honestly i dont know how you can rig the current version of the NBA lotto considering its on video, you have reps from every team there, and even some media folk who sit around in the room.

    i think Nico was instructed by ownership to trade Luka, not by the league
    Thought it was both with the end result being the Mavs moving to Vegas (Adelsons get their casino arena and the league gets a new face for their marquee franchise).

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    i wouldnt know how to really explain how to rig this setup considering how many people are in the room (including some media)


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    Never thought he was an idiot myself tbh, especially considering the moves he made the past few seasons. The Luka trade always smelled rigged and the Mavs jumping up to #1 seals it.
    I’ve never been into these conspiracies and still don’t think it was but I just can’t argue at the moment I was thinking if they’re going to rig something it would be to rig it against Dallas because the optics are horrible right now.

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    To be fair they have the best odds. Its just a repeated pattern of giving stuff to lebron. Wins lottery
    Wolves had the best odds that year? If so, that one doesn't seem that bad then. All those other ones that BatManu listed, though, amaze me how those teams won the first pick in those situations. The Dallas one this year should be added to that list.

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    Lots of folks have commented on how Cooper didn’t look too happy when Dallas got #1…

    He (and the whole world) just saw Nico cost Luka over $100MM by trading him away right before he was eligible for a SuperMax extension… so yeah, I think players are going to be a little apprehensive about the Mavericks.

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    Wait, wasn't Fox going to take #2 jersey and then they switched to #4?

    Harper destiny was long foretold? Spurs have the crystal ball.

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    I have to admit, I got greedy after Charlotte and Philly went #3 and #4 and I my first reaction was disappointment. But holy boys and girls, #2 is awesome. I have a gut feeling we'll trade #2, #14, 2027 Atlanta, and the swap rights for 2030 and 2031 plus Vassell and Sochan for Giannis.

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    I have to admit, I got greedy after Charlotte and Philly went #3 and #4 and I my first reaction was disappointment. But holy boys and girls, #2 is awesome. I have a gut feeling we'll trade #2, #14, 2027 Atlanta, and the swap rights for 2030 and 2031 plus Vassell and Sochan for Giannis.
    Same here, felt devastated for a few minutes there coming so close, but that is only because when it came down to the last two picks, I saw it was Dallas and I knew the Spurs had a higher percentage chance at the number 1 over Dallas, so I thought at that point we had it. If the Spurs were going against Utah, Washington, Philadelphia or Charlotte for pick 1 and 2, I wouldn't have gotten as excited as I would have known they had a higher percentage chance at it. It's just that it came down to Spurs and Mavs, so I got real excited thinking the Spurs had the better chance. I really thought we had it. I should have been super happy with the number two, but in that moment, didn't feel that way.

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    Conspiracy theorists with a ton of material right now but the biggest winner in all this is going to be Nico because people will no longer think he’s a complete idiot. They’ll think he’s a mastermind for pulling off a good trade by sending Luka for AD and Flagg.
    It doesn't stand to scrutiny though, as a core of irving, flagg and ad probably ends in the lottery next year because of injuries and they need to rebuild the year after since most players will need resigning. The guy simply though Irving and AD would carry the load for him and didn't like Donut not respecting his achievements, he'd get a le and f off in the sunset or sign a multi year deal to cash in during the tank. There is no need to overthink.

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    Never thought he was an idiot myself tbh, especially considering the moves he made the past few seasons. The Luka trade always smelled rigged and the Mavs jumping up to #1 seals it.
    he actually has maybe the nastiest record out of any GM tbh.. From Brunson on, the list is really long.

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    Same here, felt devastated for a few minutes there coming so close, but that is only because when it came down to the last two picks, I saw it was Dallas and I knew the Spurs had a higher percentage chance at the number 1 over Dallas, so I thought at that point we had it. If the Spurs were going against Utah, Washington, Philadelphia or Charlotte for pick 1 and 2, I wouldn't have gotten as excited as I would have known they had a higher percentage chance at it. It's just that it came down to Spurs and Mavs, so I got real excited thinking the Spurs had the better chance. I really thought we had it. I should have been super happy with the number two, but in that moment, didn't feel that way.
    you had to readjust your odds based on the knowledge that dallas already had been picked for something.. so it wasn't 1% anymore.

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    he actually has maybe the nastiest record out of any GM tbh.. From Brunson on, the list is really long.
    Gafford, Washington, Lively, and Kyrie all ended up being amazing moves/picks tbh. No one saw Brunson turning into a superstar. Grant Williams was a horrible move though.

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    3 and 14...

    Charlotte gets #1 and Flagg refuses to go and we trade those picks + future Atl pick for Flagg.
    damn close.

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    Holy just heard!! #2 for the spurs

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    Gafford, Washington, Lively, and Kyrie all ended up being amazing moves/picks tbh. No one saw Brunson turning into a superstar. Grant Williams was a horrible move though.
    they missed the playoffs two out of their last 3 years mostly because of kyrie. Lively and Gafford were only players with Donut feeding them, washington as well has already shown he's just a role player, they also lost derrick jones despite talking about how d wins championships.. I guess they duped klay, so that has to gain some points as a gm... eh, they aren't going anywhere.

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    they missed the playoffs two out of their last 3 years mostly because of kyrie. Lively and Gafford were only players with Donut feeding them, washington as well has already shown he's just a role player, they also lost derrick jones despite talking about how d wins championships.. I guess they duped klay, so that has to gain some points as a gm... eh, they aren't going anywhere.
    Obviously those moves were made with Doncic in mind. They tanked in '23 and this past season was historically confusing. Agreed they aren't going anywhere with Street Clothes and Kyrie being dead, but those moves turned them into a legitimate contender.

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    Got 2/14 when I did my "one roll"

    Hope I didn't use up all the mojo
    Pretty good prediction.

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