If Spurs going to keep the #2 pick and get Harper....Fox seems to be the odd one out
Oh no, we have Tony Parker, Jimmy Butler, and a chance to draft James Harden, the world is ending.
We need some veteran leadership so Fox fills that role and there are 96 minutes for the guards so in theory 32 minutes for each of them. Harper is a rookie so he can come off the bench and whoever is hot finishes the game. Castle can play few minutes at the 3 if we want all of them at the same time.
I’m more concerned with the big, we need rebounding and some strength for big players.
I don’t really see how it backfired. Fox is an all star level player. Castle and Harper could at some point both become that but they aren’t ready for it now. Only by having Fox in this guard trio do we have any shot of making the playoffs this year. Any playoff experience for the young kids is extremely important.
Also Fox can pick up the scoring load for non-Wemby games. Castle and Harper can’t do that yet. It’s the non-Wemby games that are going to determine whether or not we make the playoffs. And Fox’s extension will end right when Harper’s contract extension begins. So nothing really to regret
I feel like back in 97 there was some talk about how Tim and DRob played the same position and we should draft Keith Van Horn instead. That worked out fine.I think good players can make it work.
No
There is really no reason these 3 can’t coexist. Typically when these “fit” situations don’t work out it’s because one or more of the players aren’t willing to give into the team concept. Castle has shown a willingness to find ways to fit where he’s needed. I think he makes it work.
If the Spurs had somehow known they would get the #2 pick back then maybe they wouldn't have traded for Fox. But it was a great deal at the time, and having too much talent is the kind of "problem" the Spurs have needed for a while.
Spurs aren't trading Fox. They literally just traded for him with the intent to sign him to a long-term deal so he can pair up with Wemby for years to come. Spurs are just gonna have a log-jam in the backcourt and Harper's gonna have to come off the bench for a while. Bit of an odd situation for us and I'm sure he's not gonna be happy about it, but it's a good problem to have.
I think you still make that deal. It was too good to pass up. Chicago got fleeced.
Actually when the early Fox talk came up I was like: "It will rob us of the interchabgable parts roster" and "Because he can only play PG and Castle can play that too, we are not as flexible when certain picks or trade tagets show up."
I was right.
BUT for the price we got him, it still was great and I would do it gain and again.
The cir stances are kind if special as we can't trade him for some years, but it's still possible to make it work. And if not, we still can trade Castle or Harper in a year or two (maybe even for a top pick in '26), but I don't see that coming.
Biggest question is: Would it be possible to trade Fox in about 3 years, when we have to think about the number of max contacts. I'm not sure. We owe him something and the Spurs are classy (Ainge would shop him the first day its possible...cough, Isaiha Thomas cough).
Two of the biggest lessons from the playoffs are that you need many ballhandlers who can create for themselves and for others, and also that depth is incredibly valuable.
Fox, Castle and Harper can coexist and at the same time one of them could eventually be a centrepiece for a good trade down the line.
So no.
Not one bit.
Spurs talk: No one on the team except Keldon a Castle can get to the rim!
Also Spurs Talk: we can’t draft a redundant PG who gets to the rim at will.
If there’s just Wemby and Fox on the high end of the salary scale (30%-35%), we can probably let it play out for four years.
I guess Keldon and Vassell and Champaigne will get push further down the bench
Bye bye to Makalai and Wesley.
Oh wait CP3's contract has ended correct?
Absolutely not. You got him at a discount! Really only gave up 2 1sts and some roster trash. The bulls would have tanked into the top 10 and the hornets pick was never going to convey.
Spurs should sign Fox, let him play for the Spurs for 3 years while Harper develops into the next point guard, and then trade Fox, while he is at the back end of his prime. You can't pass up on a Castle/Harper backcourt. That backcourt could be as menacing defensively as the Jordan/Harper backcourt of yesteryear.
Nah, but I would incourage Fox to work allot on his 3pt shooting this summer. He can make them at a good clip but still a bit streaky at it.
definitely not. Otherwise we'd still be stuck paying 20 mill for Zach Collins. We gave up next to nothing for him. As I said in another thread, Fox, Castle and Harper is our 3 guard rotation for the next 4 years. We don't need more guards, we should now be looking for 3-and-D forwards that can rebound. Extend Fox for 4 years and trade him in 4 years with a year left on his deal when we have to extend Harper. That way we can get some good players back and have no cap issues.
Butterfly effect??? If we didnt have Fox, we wouldnt have just the right amount of losses to land the #2 pick.
YES ITS VERY UNFAIR TO CHRIS PAULS PERMANENT PG SPOT!
Didn’t give up that much. In a vacuum it was an incredible deal. With current cir stances it has only upside.
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