Is there any above average PF help realistically available with a Vassell trade if we throw in 1 first round pick this summer?
John Collins has a $26M option for the next season, he's my #1 target. As good of a fit as it gets with the age and asking price taken into account.
If he opts in, I'd offer either Devin straight up, Keldon+Jeremy or Keldon+#14.
If he opts out, I'd offer a 80/4 deal, we can clear the cap space.
PJ Washington would also be a good target, he's the odd man out in Dallas with them landing Flagg.
Naz Reid and Aldama aren't realistic targets. There's not much else if we're talking high end starters.
All this dumbass needed to do was become a catch and shoot player while focusing on defense instead of thinking he's Kobe reincarnated. Enjoy your next team buddy.
It’s not lost on me that Devin drafted his own replacement with his ty play
Our main question: How do we get Giannis without giving up Harper? Castle, Vassell and Barnes and 4 future FRPs?
Wemby, Giannis, Fox, Champ, and Harper. Sign LaRavia as a bench big. Give MLE to Bostons back up big. And then draft the best shooter available at 14. Probably none of this is feasible but it doesn’t hurt to ask
Until the Spurs get a 3, Vassell will be on this team.
Where are we on Kuminga these days?
Feels like Dev for Kuminga (S&T) is on the table is we want it. On paper would seem to fit a need at the wing.
No reason not try to trade him and sochan now
Let's try and find potential suitors that would see Devin as a positive asset.
CLE, BOS, IND, NYK, CHI, ATL, TOR, PHI, CHO, WAS - no.
MIL - Portis and Connaughton expirings? They'd surely take him.
DET - Maybe if Ivey doesn't recover? Unlikely.
ORL - They desperately need shooters, but salary matching would be tough because they have so many smaller contracts.
MIA - I don't think they're interested, but I'd consider a Wiggins/Devin swap to get years off that contract if anything.
BRK if we salary dump him.
OKC, HOU, LAL, DEN, LAC, MIN, GSW, MEM, SAC, DAL, PHO, POR, NOP - no.
UTA - Maybe in a deal for John Collins?
We're not getting rid of him, tbh.
I think Philly is in play if we want it..Let's try and find potential suitors that would see Devin as a positive asset.
CLE, BOS, IND, NYK, CHI, ATL, TOR, PHI, CHO, WAS - no.
MIL - Portis and Connaughton expirings? They'd surely take him.
DET - Maybe if Ivey doesn't recover? Unlikely.
ORL - They desperately need shooters, but salary matching would be tough because they have so many smaller contracts.
MIA - I don't think they're interested, but I'd consider a Wiggins/Devin swap to get years off that contract if anything.
BRK if we salary dump him.
OKC, HOU, LAL, DEN, LAC, MIN, GSW, MEM, SAC, DAL, PHO, POR, NOP - no.
UTA - Maybe in a deal for John Collins?
We're not getting rid of him, tbh.
Orlando has pick #16. If there was some way to move Vassell AND get McNeeley AND Fleming (if they drop)… I’d be willing to toss in a few more resources.Let's try and find potential suitors that would see Devin as a positive asset.
CLE, BOS, IND, NYK, CHI, ATL, TOR, PHI, CHO, WAS - no.
MIL - Portis and Connaughton expirings? They'd surely take him.
DET - Maybe if Ivey doesn't recover? Unlikely.
ORL - They desperately need shooters, but salary matching would be tough because they have so many smaller contracts.
MIA - I don't think they're interested, but I'd consider a Wiggins/Devin swap to get years off that contract if anything.
BRK if we salary dump him.
OKC, HOU, LAL, DEN, LAC, MIN, GSW, MEM, SAC, DAL, PHO, POR, NOP - no.
UTA - Maybe in a deal for John Collins?
We're not getting rid of him, tbh.
Brooklyn also has a ton of 1st round picks. If they are interested in Vassell, I’d be interested in some of that.
My top contender is Orlando. He’d be a great fit with Suggs and provides the shooting they desperately need.Let's try and find potential suitors that would see Devin as a positive asset.
CLE, BOS, IND, NYK, CHI, ATL, TOR, PHI, CHO, WAS - no.
MIL - Portis and Connaughton expirings? They'd surely take him.
DET - Maybe if Ivey doesn't recover? Unlikely.
ORL - They desperately need shooters, but salary matching would be tough because they have so many smaller contracts.
MIA - I don't think they're interested, but I'd consider a Wiggins/Devin swap to get years off that contract if anything.
BRK if we salary dump him.
OKC, HOU, LAL, DEN, LAC, MIN, GSW, MEM, SAC, DAL, PHO, POR, NOP - no.
UTA - Maybe in a deal for John Collins?
We're not getting rid of him, tbh.
KCP + Mo + a future pick would help the Spurs build up some of the depth they need.
If Giannis goes to the Nets, I definitely think some of the Spurs’ young guys can help them round out a roster around him.
We really talking about this scrub John Collins again. Giving up #14 in a good draft for this guy
KCP was horrible this season and has two more years after this one, $21M.
If they want Devin, there would have to be a third team involved, imo.
Isaac and WCJ make too much money for the value they add and their contracts are too long.
Cole Anthony and Anthony Black are (subpar) point guards.
Bitadze seems like a solid fit, but has character issues, Spurs would never take him.
Mo Wagner is recovering from an ACL tear.
Gary Harris is on an expiring deal that's not too bad.
Da Silva and Jett Howard aren't better than Champagnie.
John Collins is a career 16/8 player, 36% career 3pt shooter (38% with the Jazz), can play both PF/C and is turning 28 this summer.We really talking about this scrub John Collins again. Giving up #14 in a good draft for this guy
Please find a better player of the same archetype with reasonable asking price and extension demands.
Both Keldon and Devin have next to no value, which pick we use depends on if Spurs like anyone available at #14. Could use another FRP, you get the point.
We can't expect to compete with a bunch of kids.
He would go out in a Durant trade.
Collins with that terrible contract has no value imo. You want to throw a couple second rounders in to make the medicine go down, sure, but no way with#14. Fox is 27 and Barnes is in his thirties. Old man CP3 might also be coming back.
Which terrible contract? It's a player option, $26M. We don't even know if he'll take it.
The same money Devin will get the next season. Swap two of them and Spurs are a better team, no question.
He also probably knows he's not getting the same money on his next contract, I wouldn't offer him more than 80/4.
CP3 coming back? Might aswell disband the franchise.
John Collins will opt out if we tell him we would give him $80/4. This is the most realistic way to get him.
We'd have to clear some cap space.
Currently projected at ~$9M below the line, with #2 pick getting $10M in his first year and #14 getting $4M.
A sign and trade for John Collins should be possible by giving up 2 second round picks. There‘s no way Ainge is getting a first round pick for him
The deadline for Collins to opt out is June 29, which is before free agency starts. The Spurs can't make him that kind of promise without tampering.
I’d let some other team pay Collins 20M a year. Let Spurstalker continue the dream
This is the first thread I opened after getting the lotto news.
yes. What a beautiful side effect from getting the #2 pick.
Almost as great as getting the pick itself. Begone Devin.
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