Devin Vassell has to go asap.

[timtonymanu]

I get the takes about people not wanting to get rid of a lot of assets for Giannis but I really can't believe some morons on reddit are taking it too far to the point of saying they wouldn't trade away Sochan, Vassell, or Keldon if it meant getting Giannis.

I swear a lot of those idiots only started following the team after 2014 and believe the Spurs never got rid of core players during the Duncan era.

[BacktoBasics]

I get the takes about people not wanting to get rid of a lot of assets for Giannis but I really can't believe some morons on reddit are taking it too far to the point of saying they wouldn't trade away Sochan, Vassell, or Keldon if it meant getting Giannis.

I swear a lot of those idiots only started following the team after 2014 and believe the Spurs never got rid of core players during the Duncan era.

The only ones I’ve seen that mention those players typically have 4 firsts attached to it plus one of Castle or the number 2 pick.

3+ picks in addition to the number 2 or Castle doesn’t interest me that much.

He’ll be 31 later this year. So you might get 4 years out of him and hopefully that’s injury free.

If he were 26 or 27 years old I’d probably feel differently.

[scott]

Devin probably woke up, found out we got the number 2 pick, and is now salivating over the idea of Dylan Harper passing him the ball for some more contested long 2s.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

The deadline for Collins to opt out is June 29, which is before free agency starts. The Spurs can't make him that kind of promise without tampering.

Wemby or Fox can be the messenger.

[exstatic]

Where are we on Kuminga these days?

Feels like Dev for Kuminga (S&T) is on the table is we want it. On paper would seem to fit a need at the wing.

Kuminga sucks, and is the prototypical Ignite dumbass.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

We'd have to clear some cap space.
Currently projected at ~$9M below the line, with #2 pick getting $10M in his first year and #14 getting $4M.

Trade Keldon, Braham, Wesley for room. I'm sure a bunch of teams will be happy to take their salary. Keldon may even earn us a FRP.

[Manu&Duncan fan]

A sign and trade for John Collins should be possible by giving up 2 second round picks. There‘s no way Ainge is getting a first round pick for him

This is about right.

[dn0774]

Where are we on Kuminga these days?

Feels like Dev for Kuminga (S&T) is on the table is we want it. On paper would seem to fit a need at the wing.

We have Kuminga at home. (Sochan)

[scott]

Kuminga isn't bad and has shown some grit in this MIN series... but he's the exact opposite of what we need from our forwards at this point.

[Seventyniner]

Devin probably woke up, found out we got the number 2 pick, and is now salivating over the idea of Dylan Harper passing him the ball for some more contested long 2s.

When did this become a meme? 10% of Vassell's shots this season were long twos, the same percentage as Wemby and CP3. Fox was the highest on the team at 13%.

Unless you consider a 10-16 foot shot a long two? 17.5% of Vassell's shots were from there, which is higher than it should be. CP3 at 19%, Fox at 14%, and Wemby at 10% round out the top 4.

[scott]

When did this become a meme? 10% of Vassell's shots this season were long twos, the same percentage as Wemby and CP3. Fox was the highest on the team at 13%.

Unless you consider a 10-16 foot shot a long two? 17.5% of Vassell's shots were from there, which is higher than it should be. CP3 at 19%, Fox at 14%, and Wemby at 10% round out the top 4.

I don't know, but I just think it's hilarious. The contested part is what's closer to the truth, of course. I've never actually thought of Devin as a Vinny del Negro disciple.

My favorite Devin meme, of course is the idea of him looking at a scenario that's not ideal for the team and whispering to himself "this is my time to shine"

[Seventyniner]

I don't know, but I just think it's hilarious. The contested part is what's closer to the truth, of course. I've never actually thought of Devin as a Vinny del Negro disciple.

My favorite Devin meme, of course is the idea of him looking at a scenario that's not ideal for the team and whispering to himself "this is my time to shine"

You're right, his shot distance doesn't show the true difficulty because it doesn't include how contested the shots were.

Just for s and giggles, take a guess at Del Negro's career % of shots he took from 16 feet to the 3 point line (long twos). I guessed before I looked it up and I wasn't close.

[scott]

You're right, his shot distance doesn't show the true difficulty because it doesn't include how contested the shots were.

Just for s and giggles, take a guess at Del Negro's career % of shots he took from 16 feet to the 3 point line (long twos). I guessed before I looked it up and I wasn't close.

My guess would be probably somewhere in the teens, because my guess is that most of Vinny's shots were lay ups or closer range jumpers. But I would guess that his long 2 shot % is probably fairly close to his 3p shot %.

[Seventyniner]

My guess would be probably somewhere in the teens, because my guess is that most of Vinny's shots were lay ups or closer range jumpers. But I would guess that his long 2 shot % is probably fairly close to his 3p shot %.

Swallow whatever you're drinking first so you don't spit it out.



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42.5% of Del Negro's career field goal attempts were long twos (16 feet to just inside the three point line, including his patented foot-on-the-line longest of long twos). Only 11.8% of his career field goal attempts were threes, and only 9.9% were at the rim.

In 97-98, 49.3% of his shots were long twos (only 34.8% in 96-97!) and he managed to top that in 00-01 at 51.7%.

I'm cringing just typing these numbers out.

[Jordan Jackson]

Haliburton was pretty good tonight. Granted it’s the east and it’s a complete dumpster fire. But do you see a scenario where Vassell drags a team to an EC Finals?

Hopefully they can find somewhere Vassell can thrive because I’m not sure it’s with the Spurs.

[poopbox]

How much money can we bet that on media day after the spurs draft harper Devin says some like "it don't matter who I am on the floor with I know my role is to be a scorer so that is what I am going to do" or something similar

[scott]

Swallow whatever you're drinking first so you don't spit it out.



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42.5% of Del Negro's career field goal attempts were long twos (16 feet to just inside the three point line, including his patented foot-on-the-line longest of long twos). Only 11.8% of his career field goal attempts were threes, and only 9.9% were at the rim.

In 97-98, 49.3% of his shots were long twos (only 34.8% in 96-97!) and he managed to top that in 00-01 at 51.7%.

I'm cringing just typing these numbers out.

That's incredible! What a trip down memory lane.

[SpursFan86]

Kuminga isn't bad and has shown some grit in this MIN series... but he's the exact opposite of what we need from our forwards at this point.

The blueprint is painfully obvious if/when we add Harper. With Fox/Castle/Harper as our guard rotation and Wemby at center, all we really need (assuming that core pans out the way we expect of course):

1) Couple of 3&D archetype wings
2) PF who can rebound and shoot spot-up 3s
3) Backup center who can rebound and be a solid rim protector

Getting those pieces isn’t as easy as it sounds but in terms of the types of players we need…seems fairly straight forward.

[Extra Stout]

Which teams are looking for what Vassell provides? And for $30 million? When I look up the kinds of role players I’d want at the forward spots, their salaries keep running in the $15-$20 million range.

[DPG21920]

Which teams are looking for what Vassell provides? And for $30 million? When I look up the kinds of role players I’d want at the forward spots, their salaries keep running in the $15-$20 million range.

Brooklyn makes a lot of sense for Dev IMO - they need salaries, can absorb him without sending any salaries back and they need talent, young players as they are still rebuilding.

[Dejounte]

The blueprint is painfully obvious if/when we add Harper. With Fox/Castle/Harper as our guard rotation and Wemby at center, all we really need (assuming that core pans out the way we expect of course):

1) Couple of 3&D archetype wings
2) PF who can rebound and shoot spot-up 3s
3) Backup center who can rebound and be a solid rim protector

Getting those pieces isn’t as easy as it sounds but in terms of the types of players we need…seems fairly straight forward.

Between Julian & Keldon (and maybe Ingram and Riley Minix behind them), I think we’re set at wing. We really don’t need someone who will potentially be overpaid or command a lot of money when their contract is up. I think we have to be cheap at wing, and then spend more for 2 and 3. I don’t think we’ll find anyone as loyal as Keldon and provide what he brings to the locker room. With his love for the Spurs, it may convince our bigger names to stay loyal too. Relationships are everything, IMO. If Keldon is the glue who holds everything together you keep him.

[sfernald]

I don't know, but I just think it's hilarious. The contested part is what's closer to the truth, of course. I've never actually thought of Devin as a Vinny del Negro disciple.

My favorite Devin meme, of course is the idea of him looking at a scenario that's not ideal for the team and whispering to himself "this is my time to shine"

My favorite part of Devin’s game is looking off open shooters which he does continuously.

[Guru of Nothing]

Y'all, I'm not saying I like this idea, but is there any good that could come from converting Devin's salary (and all those remaining years) into the expiring $31M contract of Julius Randle?

Would certainly need a third team involved because Minnesota's primary interest is freeing up money to sign Naz (I'm assuming as much). The FOs are well-acquainted and if we can serve our interests while helping them too, then maybe this is the direction we go (low friction).

Randle, Barnes, and Sochan filling the PF-ish spot for a year might work while the maestro develops Wemby and the three amigos.

[ambchang]

Randle would actually fit wemby well with his mid centric bully ball game. I don’t mind having him at $15-$20 million a year, but I’m not sure what that third team would be. Maybe nets is the only one but neither the wolves or us have anything they’d want, unless they actually want vassell.

If that’s the case:
Spurs get Randle
Nets get Vassell
Wolves get a bunch of second round picks or a highly protected first.

If jazz is interested they can get a young player and a bunch of SRPs.

Both jazz and nets have to put in salaries to make the trade work.

[rascal]

Randle would actually fit wemby well with his mid centric bully ball game. I don’t mind having him at $15-$20 million a year, but I’m not sure what that third team would be. Maybe nets is the only one but neither the wolves or us have anything they’d want, unless they actually want vassell.

If that’s the case:
Spurs get Randle
Nets get Vassell
Wolves get a bunch of second round picks or a highly protected first.

If jazz is interested they can get a young player and a bunch of SRPs.

Both jazz and nets have to put in salaries to make the trade work.

Why would the Wolves get rid of Randle for 2nd round picks or a highly protected first? They just got Randle for KAT in the big trade with NY last year.

You have to make trade scenarios that make sense for all the teams not just the Spurs.