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    He played a lot of minutes with Devin and CP3.
    It depends on if you qualify Devin or Castle as SF in those lineups.

    Fox/Harper/Castle concerns:
    spacing on offense
    size on defense

    Assuming we get a 6'10 PF to start alongside Wemby, how many teams would have two legit wings with size that could exploit that lineup?
    We also have to see if Fox goes back to his career average 33% from 3pt or he manages to go back to 37% he shot in 23-24 season.
    im not really concerned about the size. harper/castle have good enough length and athleticism. castle definitely has enough strength, and his rebounding really came on near the end of last year. there might be the odd matchup here and there where its an issue but i cant think of that many teams with giant 3's

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    Castle had a Usage closer to 20% in college. His usage was high at the end of this season but he doesn't seem to need it. Harper-Fox -- and I think they'll try to run all three -- or Harper/Castle and Fox/Castle allows Stephon to focus more on some of his other skills, most particularly on the other end. One area that he was so devastating in UConn's motion, complex offense was setting screens, ghosting screens, cutting, shifting his position. If the SAS can manage to make this work, Castle at a reduced or 'normal' Usage rate is highly effective.
    yep. during the draft i had off-ball/wing castle in tier 2 and i had point guard castle in tier 3 or 4. now his on-ball juice was admittedly better than i thought, but as his usage increased, his defensive effectiveness waned, and defense was a huge part of the appeal in castle

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    For years now we have heard of positionless players at SF, SG and PG. Castle, Fox and Harper solidify this argument.
    Well, Fox has to play the PG due to size, but yeah overall.

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    More I read about this kid the more excited I get. Maybe the fit isn’t “perfect” but he can 100% co-exist with Castle/Fox and we’re so far away from being at the point where fit is primary concern anyways.

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    The guy who is 50 years old and has been retired for fifteen years?
    I'm not advocating that we sign him TODAY. I'm using him as an example of a player we've signed in a similar role in the past. I thought that would be clear, but maybe not.

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    Crazy some people are overthinking this. Harper is arguably the best player in the draft. The scoot comparisons are crazy.
    I mean, I agree with not overthinking this, but he's clearly not the best player in the draft

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    I'm fully sold on Harper. As if it matters. I knew he was good, but didn't pay much attention. It literally required an exact draw of the #2 pick. I knew he was Ron Harper's son, which was a good sign, and that he had skills and seemingly good feel. But I really do think he has a platform to be an offensive hub and franchise player. Like, god forbid something happen to Victor, but Harper is a guy you could conceivably build around. Nothing happens to Victor, you have a player to take tremendous pressure off him. We have a guy who could be the sort to drop 30 or 40 point bombs on teams.
    Again, you shut your mouth

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    Harper and Castle can absolutely run the wing for the Spurs. They're both about 6'6 in shoes and both strong bodied kids who are still growing. They're also ballers, as in they know the game. They know how to leverage their bodies and footwork to play with people bigger or smaller than them. Like others have mentioned, not many teams have 6'7 guys running the wings, and definitely not at the usage rate that these two can handle. Harper is also very underrated as an off-ball player. Castle and Harper running around while fox or Wemby has the ball is going to be a NIGHTMARE for opposing defenses. Those two have the feel for the game and know how to attach soft spots in the defense and Harper is an even better finisher than Castle who was great as a rookie. Harper will likely be the best finisher on the team the moment he steps on the court. Both are them are young guys who learned the right way by attacking the basket first. Castles shot looked much better as the year went on even if he had abysmal shooting nights, the improvement is clear. Harper shows the signs of the same ability. His shot is inconsistent with mechanics issues that come with repe ion and opportunity in games. Those will come with Wemby on the court.

    Harper just turned 19. He showed he IS a franchise player at the age of 18. Kid is nowhere near a finished product and already has elite level abilities. Another poster made the great point of Wemby getting hurt. Harper is absolutely someone you can build a franchise around and showed it at 18.

    No brainer pick. Some people are letting social media and 2k trades getting to their head. The spurs are ridiculously lucky to be in the spot to draft two franchise players within 5 years. They would have been lucky to get Harper if they had missed on Wemby. We would be clamoring at the opportunity to get Harper.

    Final note, the last team that shipped their franchise PG out because FOX was on the team definitely has sellers remorse as that PG just clocked their ticket to the eastern conference finals.

    Harper is a blessing.

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    Let it be done.


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    ^this has been posted 3 times in the last 2 pages but i dont mind

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    ^this has been posted 3 times in the last 2 pages but i dont mind
    4th times a charm tbh.

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    Givony on ESPN just now said that he's "99.99% sure" that the Spurs are going to take Harper and are not considering a trade out of the #2 spot. Says Spurs brass are signaling to other teams that they have no interest in trading that pick. So there you go.

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    Givony on ESPN just now said that he's "99.99% sure" that the Spurs are going to take Harper and are not considering a trade out of the #2 spot. Says Spurs brass are signaling to other teams that they have no interest in trading that pick. So there you go.
    This is the way.

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    Dylan Harper had four poor statistical games out of the 29 he played. Wisconsin and Purdue, where he was sick, and Penn State, where he sprained his ankle, and the follow-up to Michigan State, still on that ankle.

    In those games, he scored 0, 6, 7, and 6 points. Overall he went 7-26 from the field and 1-10 from three.

    For what it's worth, taking those games out, somewhat cherry picking but admitting he wasn't at his best, for the season he was:

    50.1% fg
    35% 3pt
    76.7% ft
    4.76 rebs
    4.4 assts
    1.5 steals
    0.6 blocks

    21.8 ppg

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    Givony on ESPN just now said that he's "99.99% sure" that the Spurs are going to take Harper and are not considering a trade out of the #2 spot. Says Spurs brass are signaling to other teams that they have no interest in trading that pick. So there you go.

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    Oh, and his first game of the season against Wagner he somehow shot 1-6 from the line. Adding just that bit in, he was a 80% shooter from the line.

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    I'll post this video again, my favorite draft channel, almost half of it is about his improvement areas and actually shows some of the bad plays, definitely worth watching.


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    Yes sir thank Bruno. I'll add this as well.


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    It's over, Ron. Your son is a Spur.


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    For those interested Dylan Harper is being interviewed live on espn right now

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    From the interview- Compares himself and models his game after Cade Cunningham and James Harden

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    Also said he thinks he's a good defender and can guard 3 or even 4 positions.

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    Says he needs to work on his defense and conditioning. Says he can guard 1-4. Says he gets his compe iveness from his older brother

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    Says nobody can stop Wembanyama

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