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Nope to getting Giannis for me. I'd rather roll with D. Harper and company. Stay young and piecemeal veterans around this core for years to come.
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Be patient,
Spurs don't like the all chips in approach to roster building. Mil won't be trading Giannis for scraps, it's going to be costly.
Spurs are winning championships if they stay the course and that is by not trading Harper. No guarantee by adding Giannis it's a sure le anyways. Spurs are going to have to off load Harper and maybe even Castle and draft picks and will still have roster flaws with less flexibility to add more talent.
Last edited by rascal; 05-14-2025 at 08:40 PM.
Nope to getting Giannis for me. I'd rather roll with D. Harper and company. Stay young and piecemeal veterans around this core for years to come.
I am not against it, but cost will be much higher than #2 and matching salaries.
It feels like we can go one of two directions:
Door #1 - Trade for Giannis and struggle with depth like Denver. Have a good shot at a ring with, but would need to thead the needle with regards to overall health.
Door #2- Draft and develop talent and have a lot of depth, like OKC.
Door #3 - I don't see a door #3, yet.
Give me door number two. Without overriding persuasion, I think I'm locked in on this choice ... somebody pass this alongto PATFO. Thanks
If we could trade #2 straight up for Giannis, I would do that... but that's not going to happen, so the question has to be taken in context, like LeBowen has been pointing out.
At the end of the day, the Spurs FO simply does not have the testicular for ude to play in the game of a bidding war for Giannis. Unless he does a Fox and specifically requests San Antonio, the Spurs are going to quickly blush at the price tag and move along their merry way. But Giannis still has 3/175 coming his way. He can't play the same card Fox did that he simply won't extend anywhere but his preferred destination. I also don't think Giannis is interested in screwing the Bucks over. He's very likely to work with MIL to get them the best possible return and get him to a place he likes.
Brian Wright is doing a great job, but this is a poker table with stakes higher than he likes to play at.
Wow. Really? What sort of stuff has he said about the Spurs? Is it anything recent or does it go back years? Maybe he changes his tune with Victor here and a chance for his son to be part of something great.
If SPURS drafts Harper and with Wemby, Fox, and Castle on the team, SPURS will become a playoff team and will start attracting some veterans to join for cheap contract like Finley in the past.
I haven't seen anything where he said he hates the Spurs.
giannis is going to cost way more than just #2
if we were talking a typical all-nba caliber player, it would be harper and then some. but we are talking a perennial MVP level, two-way player with some dominant postseason and finals play. its going to cost a very uncomfortable amount, and frankly he warrants that type of return. but i dont think its worth it for us at the moment.
Harper just turned 19 and he's already very good. We will regret not taking him. Add a strong 4/5 and we have a team.
I wouldn't count on this. If it happens, its gravy.
Spurs in the unique position to somewhat dominate the scoring guard market by having 3 PGs on the floor at the same time. While none of them can really shoot, an offense can always be developed to capitalize on multiple options going toward the basket. That only works with Wemby and [insert name of 3-D wing here]. This is a crucial draft and FA period this year. Giannis really shouldn't be a consideration w/ his contract, age and lack of outside shooting but moving on from KJ and perhaps Devin for bigger defenders is needed.
Position less basketball only works with shooters and defenders.
He said recently like a month ago the '98 bulls would have swept or beaten the '99 Spurs in 5 games. He also argued several years ago about Duncan not being the GOAT PF after Duncan retired. Even recently like a day ago someone tweeted out to him about Dylan possibly getting drafted by the Spurs and he responded by saying something like it's not set it in stone yet. His dad is a hater, and I don't know why but that is the case from what I gather.
I’d offer 2025 #2 & #14 and some combination of Vassell, Keldon, and Sochan. That’s up to four lottery picks. If MLW wants more, I might reconsider.
Yeah, OK, darn. I happen to think the '99 Spurs would have beaten them. Not sure what you guys think?
Definitely sounds like a hater, especially after saying TD isn't GOAT PF if he mentioned it shortly after Tim retired. Sounds like he was trying to take the shine off. Yeah, I don't like the guy already from the looks of it.
Yup and they'd prolly want expirings (not Vassell or Keldon), need to match to 90% so gotta come up with $48.7M in salary going back, so Barnes + '22 draft expirings/RFAs ($7.1+4.96 + 4.73= $16.8M) + #2 $$$ $12.37M= $48.16M + either Champ or a min. That's a lot of roster spots to replace while f-ing your cap and asset stockpile.
Different story if they'd want Fox or Vassell, but not sure they would and still the cost is huge and Hou or someone may bid up the price.
FWIW Giannis is owed $175M over the next 3 years, Vassell is owed $78.65M over 3 (plus $27M for a 4th), Keldon is owed $35M over 2. If they do Vassell and Keldon + picks Giannis only costs you about $20M more in '26, $24M in '27, but like $38M more than Vassell in '28. Plus all your good assets + Wemby development + potential FA/trade targets.
Stick with the development program, too early to go hunting for wrong side of 30 hired guns.
Trade for Durant we would likely be able to hold onto the #2 pick and Fox and Castle. Suns will want mainly draft picks for KD and Vassell/Barnes.
Once you get past the Harper pick, Spurs draft capital starts to fade a little. Don't get me wrong, as a Spurs fan I love what we have, but from Milwaukee's perspective, I'd be looking at the other picks we throw at them as 15-20, at best (or 14th obviously, if the 2025 ATL pick were to go).
I'm leery of Durant. Think he would be a great fit, but I feel like whoever gets him is going to overpay. Maybe two years from now, if his contract demands align with his 39 year old body, he might be a great fit to transition to elite role player - and Wemby gets to play alongside one of his idols.
He said immediately on the day Duncan retired that he wasn't the GOAT PF and I believe he said Karl Malone was instead the GOAT PF. He got into a debate with some former player on that day. I get him believing the bulls would beat the Spurs in '99 even though I don't agree with him since most players are y about their championship teams and think they could never lose but the fact he said the Spurs would get swept or lose in 5 to the Bulls was stupid. '99 Spurs were better than any team the Bulls faced during their second 3 peat including the Pacers and Jazz who were the two toughest teams they faced and neither series ended in 4 or 5 games.
https://www.basketballnetwork.net/ol...999-nba-finals
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Exactly. It’s not happening. What if something happens to one of our guys after the trade? No les and no future. I know you assume health when going for a chip, but I think we need to show a little patience. We got gifted a generational talent and pieces to grow with him. Don’t f with that.
I'd rather have the three guards, Victor at 4, and Sochan camping in the paint for offensive rebounds. That said, I think they can maybe make a run for Steven Adams.
Steven Adams is definitely the guy I want. His screens would be awesome for the guards.
Both Fox and Harper are good off the catch, and this team generates good open looks.
Yeah, I'd have been willing to get him at his last ridiculous contract a couple of years ago.
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