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I knew he was supposedly a great prospect, but didn’t do any meaningful digging because I didn’t seriously think we’d jump up for a third year in a row. Watching the film and scouting reports now that we have is extremely exciting
I honestly don’t know. Hence the question. You tell me.
I knew he was supposedly a great prospect, but didn’t do any meaningful digging because I didn’t seriously think we’d jump up for a third year in a row. Watching the film and scouting reports now that we have is extremely exciting
i dont think anybody ever really thought about the #2 pick specifically, which is the only scenario where the spurs were likely to draft a point guard... just because he cant be passed up. i guess there was a tiny contingent of people who like jakucionis at 8, but most people liked Kon, Queen, Tre Johnson, etc... because 8 was a spot where you can prioritize fit/need.
nobody cared for Fears, for instance.
so when we suddenly got that pick and realized we've been served a point guard, which isnt a dire need, who isnt a particularly good shooter, which is a dire need, the immediate reaction was that he doesnt really fit and may be more valuable as a trade asset for somebody else than he is as a point guard to us
now that the knee-jerk reaction has faded, i think people have come to accept that he's frankly damn good and worth taking and keeping
its not just that a jump was somewhat unlikely. but harper was only realsitic with exactly the #2 pick. at 1 its obviously Flagg, and with 3/4 it was always one of Ace/VJ. so the harper specific scenario was something ST never really grappled with until it happened
I’m very high on Fears. He did a of a job running an SEC team as a 17 YO freshman. If you think he has shooting worries, go back and check Buddy Hield’s 3G% as a freshman at Oklahoma. I’ll save you the trouble. It was .238. His FTs were .833, though, a strong shooting signal. Fears shot .851 from the line on over 6 attempts.
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Fantasizing about the 100th percentile outcome swayed me.
I wonder if the Spurs consider picking up his scrub brother to help with the NBA transition. My guess is no.
I can't give you a good answer. But the coincidence it's just too big. All I know is there is a lot of money involved and where there is a lot of money involved things happen. And for the record, I've never been one to buy into conspiracies. The improbability mixed with the cir stances just smells too bad.
I was lukewarm on him just from a perspective of need. I'd rather make do with three outstanding guards than fail to pick the best player available. A focus on smart, team defense anchored by Victor is a recipe for trophies. The final trick is picking the perfect fifth guy to fit this massively-talented young core.
EDIT: The Spurs have historically been a team picking at the end of the round, and fit can be more important than talent. At the top, you pick the best talent every time. The Spurs proved that by reaching for Primo.
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When CP was traded to the Clippers, the Hornets won AD. When AD forced his way to LA, the Pels won Zion. When Luka got traded to LA, everyone said Dallas would get the number one pick.
While I appreciate the absurdity of trying to rig it, one thing I've never taken seriously as a measure of confidence is having an auditing firm.
Audits paid for be the audited are 100% set up for scams. Enron, Theranos, etc etc always had audits and clean bills of health until the bottom fell out. Dozens of audited firms gave all their clients money to Madoff without any hesitation or failing an audit. McDonald's Monopoly had security measures and audits in place for years before weak links in the crime chain broke it up. When it comes to scamming, even under intense security and scrutiny, where there's a will there's a way.
Law firms aren't hired to expose their clients wrongdoing, they're paid to keep secrets, limit exposure, and make problems go away.
They won Zion lottery before AD was traded
League wanted cp3 to a big market so badly that the commissioner vetoed a trade to the freakin lakers
Last edited by spurraider21; 05-14-2025 at 09:39 PM.
Yeah, pretty much. American society is corrupt from the gills down to the toes. Some firm standing around while a lottery happens is meaningless.
Dylan is like Curry and Klay Thompson -- he's been around the NBA for a long, long time. Transition won't be a big problem for him.
They learned their lesson with Dillingham and that whole meltdown.
. I saw this the other day somewhere and thought I remembered it correctly. Clearly I did not.
yeah..nico helps the lakers, the league helps nico
don't know how else to explain it
Did you want the spurs to take him at 8?
Listening to KOC and in passing, when talking about the draft being an inexact science with a wide variety of opinions, he said he talked to scouts who don’t have Harper as a top 5 player in this class. Thought that was interesting and also absurd.
Depends who else was still on the board.
KOC is a giant tool, and a dyed in the wool Spurs hater.
I seem to recall Price Waterhouse Cooper being the most trustworthy company in the world until they were found out to be defrauding millions of people.
The discussion on dribble drivers got me drooling. When Wemby and Fox went out, only Castle and Keldon were competent attacking off the dribble. Now we will have:
Wemby
Castle
Harper
Fox
Keldon (off bench)
Not sure the metrics but Castle and Harper seem to me to be elite dribble drivers. Wemby/Fox competent at least, and Keldon is a solid dribble driver vs other team's bench units.
The drooling part is thinking about all the nuisance fouls we will draw, getting teams in foul trouble, stopping their runs and uglying the game up when we need to. And there is NOTHING they can do to stop it. OK I guess other than crowding the lane heavily and daring us to shoot 3s. Which might work pretty well actually.
Size and shooting, we have to find it at picks 14 and 38, and free agency/trades.
i wouldnt call castle and elite dribble driver. he's good, but not elite. he's not super quick/fast like Fox nor is he as slippery as Harper. he does have good handles and isnt fazed by contact at all, so its not like he doesnt have anything going for him. but more notably, he didnt finish at the rim particularly efficiently and often has no real plan and just gets himself into the teeth of the defense. efficiency in the paint is something he needs to improve on. meanwhile harper's footwork and finishing ability is pretty impeccable
lets assume top 7 off the board were Flagg, Harper, VJ, Ace, Tre Johnson, Maluach, Queen, and Jaku.
would you have taken Fears there?
and of the next handful of prospects, how many of these guys would you have taken Fears over
Kon, CMB, Jase, Carter Bryant, Demin, Essengue, Sorber
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