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    I followed BYU quite a bit last season and I can say that drafting this guy scares me to death. Yes, there were times where he made some great passes, but he turned it over...badly, I don't think he could initially dribble against NBA compe ion, and while his shooting stroke looks good mechanically, he was a poor shooter all season. He had a few promising games in March Madness though.
    The good thing is he is super young and likely would be a bench player going against the 7th or 8th best defender. He'd have time to grow even just in the g league. His flashes are what you'd be swinging for. If he ever made it to the big stage, with a team like the spurs, he'd hardly be the main ball handler and would always have the 5th best defender on the floor on him. Spurs would fit him pretty good if he really wants that type or development.

    Agreed on him definitely being a potential bust guy though.

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    Hopefully, a Western Conference team pulls a 2021 Spurs in the early teens, overthinks it, and reaches on a player who ends up becoming a pervert, which allows Queen to drop into our lap.

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    The good thing is he is super young and likely would be a bench player going against the 7th or 8th best defender. He'd have time to grow even just in the g league. His flashes are what you'd be swinging for. If he ever made it to the big stage, with a team like the spurs, he'd hardly be the main ball handler and would always have the 5th best defender on the floor on him. Spurs would fit him pretty good if he really wants that type or development.

    Agreed on him definitely being a potential bust guy though.
    The one thing the Spurs are not short of is a guy to bring up the ball. Drafting one just to have another Tre Jones makes little sense.

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    Id love for it to be Coward or Fleming.

    However they're gonna trade the pick in a package or for future picks to package and it means nothing.

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    one of the major points for the Castle-Harper duo will be positional versitility, right?
    and to maximize that potential, you need role player, who are versatile as well, because it doesn't help much if your stars are versatile, but your role player are froozen at their position.
    that would preference a 3/4 combo forward, right? or a 4/5 power player. yes, he should be able to shoot.
    from the current draft board, Bryant once more looks best. on paper. (if he was an inch taller, he would be perfect, but he should be all right)
    Essengue locks nice, but he lacks the shooting.
    McNeeley is somehow interesting. could he play some 4? he has exactly the same physical profile like Gordon Hayward and Hayward did quite well in this role of a hybrid forward. so I wouldn't rule out McNeeley.
    Coward ist intriguing, despite looking a bit to small for the role. but his physical profile is a copy of Kawhi's. sure you can play Coward at the 4 in small ball line ups. so Coward can play 2, 3 and some 4. he might be the most versatile player type of all the mentioned players.
    of course you want to find a potential starter with the 14th pick. but if you end up with a quality bench guy, nothing wrong with that. Coward as a swiss army knife player from the bench (taking Keldon's spot) might be more useful in the long run.

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    McNeeley is the way to go with the 14th pick.

    Spurstalk sleeping on McNeeley but the Spurs aren't.
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    McNeeley came in at 6'6 and three-quarters inches without shoes—equating to about 6'8 to 6'9 with shoes, the standard listed height for NBA players. This puts him taller than current pros like Jarace Walker, Justin Edwards, and Herb Jones, all of whom are slotted in as forwards for their teams. That extra height gives McNeeley new positional versatility and raises his ceiling as a prospect.

    Positional versatility, what the spurs look for. More athletic than you'd think and a better shooter than his final stats indicate.

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    McNeeley has a standing reach of 8’4 which is so short it seems like a measurement error. That’s the standing reach of Dearon Fox, and two inches shorter than Steph castle and Harper.

    Unfortunately for McNeeley you don’t rebound, block shots or shoot with the top of your head. He must have really short arms and really long neck and head if he’s 6’7 with only 8’4 reach.

    Anyway the dude can still play and shoot lights out. But his poor finishing rate at the rim is starting to make some sense.

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    so with players like Raynaud shooting up boards into the early 20s and guys like Fleming and McNeeley possibly falling into the late first round, should we try to do a 2-for-1 trade? 14 for 2 picks in the 20s might make sense if players who are high on the Spurs' board are there.
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    so with players like Raynaud shooting up boards into the early 20s and guys like Fleming and McNeeley possibly falling into the late first round, should we try to do a 2-for-1 trade? 14 for 2 picks in the 20s might make sense if players who are high on the Spurs' board are there.
    I’d love that. Or package 38 and several other future SRP to move up into the late first

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    I’d love that. Or package 38 and several other future SRP to move up into the late first
    Brooklyn has 19, 26 and 27. Should be an easy possibility.

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    I wouldn't rule moving down or even up, but we're not drafting three rookies, no chance.

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    I know this guy is not credible at all, but why are we working out more guards? Then again, why would you work out players to trade them to other teams? Spurs are probably just doing their due dilligence.

    Yeah I read that multiple times and still didn’t really understand the implication I do agree the 14th pick is more likely than not to get moved but not sure what that has to do with the Spurs working out other guards.

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    the Heat are somehow stuck in nowhere land.
    are they going to rebuild, or just retool around Bam and Herro?
    their 2025 pick goes to OKC, no 2nd rounder.
    yes, they got the #20 pick from GSW, but overall they have got just 2 picks for this draft and next year.

    I assume they are interested in acquiring some more picks. or at least move up.

    so, what are their plans regarding Wiggins and would the Spurs look that way?

    something like #14 plus Vassell for Wiggins? or #14, #38, 2026 2nd round pick and Vassell for #20 plus Wiggins?

    Vassell and Wiggins make the same money. Vassell is 5 years younger, but has 2 more years on his contract.

    I know, most people are not high on Wiggins and his NBA career will be called disapointing for a #1 pick, but with the current roster Wiggins would make more sense than Vassell. and he is the better overall player, can play some 4 and he is the much better defender.

    edit: the Heat are a team that desperatly would need a PG. it migth make a huge difference between #14 and #20. one out of Jakucionis, Fears, Traore will fall to 14, but not to 20. best case at 20 would be Jase, but even that's not a given. I see Heat trying to get #14.
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    I wouldn't rule moving down or even up, but we're not drafting three rookies, no chance.
    I don’t see 3, but def 2. I think this year they might actually need the bodies to put in the pipeline for after this year. Malaki, Wesley, Bassey are probably out next summer. Barnes is expiring (and tasty trade chip).

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    Yeah I read that multiple times and still didn’t really understand the implication I do agree the 14th pick is more likely than not to get moved but not sure what that has to do with the Spurs working out other guards.
    Meanwhile they just met with Sorber….

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    I wouldn't rule moving down or even up, but we're not drafting three rookies, no chance.
    we absolutely should though. There are plenty of good back up centers in the 2nd round. I‘d rather sign one vet as a back up and a rookie as a 3rd stringer instead of signing 2 vets. We need some new projects at the back of the roster while getting rid of Bassey and possibly Mamu and Branham.

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    we absolutely should though. There are plenty of good back up centers in the 2nd round. I‘d rather sign one vet as a back up and a rookie as a 3rd stringer instead of signing 2 vets. We need some new projects at the back of the roster while getting rid of Bassey and possibly Mamu and Branham.
    I can see it happening only if SRP doesn't get a guaranteed contract.

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    Wolfe is not out of the question at 14, that would be much too early for Raynaud.
    It's always fun to look at some of the crazier mocks.

    USA Today has an outlier list of the top 14 with Raynaud at 13 and the Spurs taking Isaiah Elohim(?) at 14.

    I kinda like Raynaud but 13 seems ridiculously high (and he seems like more of an offensive than defensive big as they suggest).

    Yet they say:

    13. Atlanta Hawks - Maxime Raynaud (F, Stanford)

    "Raynaud is a mobile big man with shot-blocking ability. Atlanta needs rim protection, and Raynaud provides that."

    14. San Antonio Spurs - Isaiah Elohim (G, USC)

    "Elohim is a scoring guard with playmaking ability. San Antonio needs backcourt depth, and Elohim fits their system."

    I'm not sure the Spurs are going to need backcourt depth by the time they use that 14th pick. I certainly hope (and trust) they're wrong about who the Spurs would take at that point.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...y/83600396007/

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    I'd rather get out of Vassell's money
    The problem with that is that the pick price to absorb that goes up. Spurs planned this out, knowing that at least more high draft pick would hit after Wemby. Vassell’s deal ends right when Harper’s extension would kick in.

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    Id love for it to be Coward or Fleming.

    However they're gonna trade the pick in a package or for future picks to package and it means nothing.
    Hopefully,if they do, it will be an asset for 2029, the only year we don’t have a nonnative pick or swap.

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    I’m finding it hard to get excited about pick 14 because in my head it’s already traded for a vet or future assets.

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    I’m finding it hard to get excited about pick 14 because in my head it’s already traded for a vet or future assets.
    Between Fleming, Bryant, Essengue, Sorber, and Coward, there’s gotta be at least 1 of them available at 14. That’s good value for us.

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    Take the best center and that is our backup big.

    Trade it in a package for a backup center. Not ideal but that is one way to get one.

    Victor doesn't play 48 minutes and this team get's annihilated on the boards soon as he sits down. Annihilated period. Need a real big who can at least not embarrass himself defensively and rebound when Victor is on the bench.

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    “San Antonio needs backcourt depth.”

    Fox, Castle, Harper, Vassell.

    Spurs aren’t spending a lottery pick on a third-stringer.

    Article deadline was due, cranked it out without digging deep into team needs.

    Spurs will have a short list of 3&D forwards and good defensive centers worth taking. If they’re all gone before 14, or if a trade deal grades out better than whoever is left, then they’ll deal the pick.

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